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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography
           From: Davie Gordon 
      2. Re: Monkees "Headquarters" - no single from LP
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      3. Re: Mono vs Stereo
           From: Dan Hughes 
      4. Off-Center / Skipping Records
           From: Mark Hill 
      5. David Clayton-Thomas
           From: Michael Godin 
      6. Are you sitting comfortably?
           From: Paul Bryant 
      7. Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production
           From: Al Kooper 
      8. Re: Songwriter credits
           From: Paul Bryant 
      9. Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - '60s discography
           From: Davie Gordon 
     10. Re: Hits You Missed
           From: Davie Gordon 
     11. Arthur Lee Harper
           From: Dan Hughes 
     12. "Sandy"
           From: Michael Godin 
     13. Bluebeats / The #1
           From: J. Shannon 
     14. Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production
           From: Mick Patrick 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:24:50 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography Bob Celli wrote: > In My Baby's Eyes recorded by Bobby Vee was written by Goffin/King. > Was there a similar title written by FGG? Thanks for the correction Bob - yes, there is an FGG song of the same title - I mistakenly thought Bobby had recorded it when the only track of that title I could find was the one on the flip of "Sharing You". Maybe somebody else can identify who did the FGG song. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:08:42 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Monkees "Headquarters" - no single from LP Larry Lapka wrote: > Next question: why were there no single releases from the > Headquarters LP? Were they too much in the midst of the Kirshner > fallout, was this viewed as a lack of approval from RCA, or even a > punishment? Did any other band--other than the Beatles of course-- > have a major album release during that period without a single 45 > being released from it (at least in the U.S.)? There might have been publishing problems from the mangement switch over from Kirshner that kept anything from being released on 45. Or the Monkees themselves (in thier attempt to prove they were a real band) decided not to release any singles from it ala the Fabs. I believe "Randy Scouse Git" (aka "Alternate Title") was a hit single in the UK and there were other singles released around the world. Does anyone know if there were any non-HQ USA singles released while Headquarters was in the Top 10? > There were no singles taken from the "Ventures in Space" album > at the time of its release (1964). "Out of Limits" finally came > out as a B-side, but that wasn't till 1967. The Ventures relied on covering other instrumental hits to sell thier albums. But it would have been cool if Dolton had pulled a couple of originals from that awesome LP as singles. Its strange that Dolton released many non-LP singles during their 60's heyday too. The Ventures might have been the first Rock N Roll group to focus on selling albums rather than singles. Perhaps thier massive success in Japan caused that. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:25:44 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Mono vs Stereo Phil asks: > I don't quite understand why records needed to be released in both mono > and stereo mixes... Maybe a look at the timeline will help explain. First we had mono. Then the progressives among us spent big bucks for stereo equipment, and we demanded stereo albums and had the money to pay extra for them. It cost more to come up with stereo masters--more mikes, more amp channels, more equipment, more engineering, more work for the techies, etc. So the public expected to pay more for a stereo record. We were paying extra for the more complicated production work, not the vinyl--pressing and packaging costs were the same for mono and stereo once the masters were perfected. As more and more people moved to stereo, the manufacturers--who were charging a dollar more for the stereo record--found that they saved money if they made 1,000 stereo albums than if they made 500 stereo and 500 mono. So it actually cost them MORE if they did mono separately, even though they made less profit on the mono albums. So they saved money by making all stereo and labelling some of them mono for that crowd who still wanted to save the extra buck, trusting they'd never know (at least until they bought a stereo system). Much like today's "gold master" CDs cost no more to manufacture than do regular CDs, but they cost a lot more to purchase. The extra price stems from the work that went into the production (though I've often wondered if the human ear can detect the difference). Hey, that's my theory anyway. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:08:32 -0500 From: Mark Hill Subject: Off-Center / Skipping Records Richard Hattersley: > Has any one noticed that "...Lovin' Feelin'" on the US Philles > pressing is pressed slightly off centre? What I mean is the > stylus moves in and out causing a fluctuation in pitch. At least > that is how it is on my pressing, and even if I adjust it my self > to make it sit in the middle it still sounds off. Another offender > is "How Does It Feel" on the b side "Walking In The Rain" I can't confer with you on either of these, but I'm sure I've had a half-dozen or so offenders like this myself over the years. Can't recall any specific titles. And another half-dozen brand new vinyl discs, right out of the plastic with uncleanable/unfixable skips. This reminds me of a time I was in a record store and they kept playing the same track (by a country artist) over and over- and it kept skipping in the same place. I thought that maybe it was on an automatic turntable. So I went to see what was going on. A customer had brought back a new LP with a skip, and they were opening up new copies to find a good one. They opened and played maybe 8-10 copies and every one skipped. I'm sure these stories are *legion*! "Dr. Mark" Hill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:10:57 -0800 From: Michael Godin Subject: David Clayton-Thomas > Anyone know what Mr. Clayton-Thomas is up to these days? Does he > still perform? David Clayton Thomas and Blood, Sweat & Tears perform on a regular basis. My friend, Darcy Hepner, is the sax player in the band. He is out with them usually once a week and a lot more in the summer. Cheers. Michael Godin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Are you sitting comfortably? Andrew Hickey wrote: > I'm only surprised there were no singles by The Troggs or Status > Quo in '68 referencing Muffin The Mule or Andy Pandy...) But there was a group called The Flowerpot Men!!! pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 02:44:49 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production Mick Patrick: > Believe it or not, the first credited Bacharach production was > "Three Wheels On My Wagon" b/w "One Part Dog, Nine Parts Cat" by > Dick Van Dyke, released on Jamie 1178 in January 1961. Both sides > were written and produced by Burt Bacharach and Bob Hilliard... Phil Milstein: > We knew that -- we were just testing you. Mick Patrick: > Yeah, right! :-) Have a crack at this one, then: > If the above-mentioned disc was the unlikely debut of Burt > Bacharach as credited producer, what was the first disc to bear > the legend "Produced by Bacharach and David"? What year was The Blob???? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 05:10:38 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Songwriter credits It just occurred to me that the Animals' global hit House of the Rising Sun was copyrighted as Trad arr. Price, so I think - can someone confirm? - that Alan Price got big fat royalty cheques for his arrangement of the traditional material (causing resentment within the band). Now - he probably deserved it because it was probably entirely his arrangement. However, if I'm right and he DID get royalties for his arrangement - note, not composition - then should not Matthew Fisher get royalties for his organ arrangement of A Whiter Shade of Pale? Or any arranger for his arrangements? Having agreed with Al Kooper originally about who should be getting song royalties, this has now confused me again. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:37:24 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - '60s discography Thanks Phil - that's a great help, it confirms a few credits I wasn't all sure of like the Dion track. I'd never heard of the album and like you wonder if there's a second volume. I've found a few more additions since I typed out the listing and thanks to Jeff and Austin have filled in other gaps. I'll post a revised FGG list in a few weeks time when I've had a chance to sort out the guys' post FGG sixties credits - and this time I'll include album tracks. The way my database is set up it's easier to track down singles as that's what I've been concentrating on logging. I really enjoy putting the list together and I'm so pleased that it's been enjoyed. That "Ten Lonely Guys" track must have an interesting story behind it - the BMI database lists ten (!) writers for it including Neil Diamond, must be one of his earliest credits. Davie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:22:39 -0000 From: Davie Gordon Subject: Re: Hits You Missed Dan Hughes wrote: > "Shimmy, Shimmy, Shimmy, Sherry" -- ?? > This was a good jumpin' Contours-styled tune (but it was NOT > "Shake Sherry"!). Hi Dan, Possibly "Shimmy Sherry" by Jerry Heyward and The Everglades (Symbol 916,1962) written by Phil Medley. Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 20:15:14 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Arthur Lee Harper Rat Pfink sez, > I always thought The Kitchen Cinq was a great name. But after they called their first album "Everything But....", where could they go next? Actually, I think I have that album. They were on Lee Hazlewood's label (LHI), weren't they? Speaking of which leads me to ask: Does anyone here know Arthur Lee Harper? He did an album on LHI called "Arthur", wherein he sounded much like a very young, doe-eyed Donovan. A couple of years later another album ("Love Is The Message", I believe it was called), under his full name, on Nocturne which is worth several hundred dollars now. Anyway, he and I were pen pals in the '60s when I was a student at Purdue and on into my Air Force days, and he was a student in San Jose, if I remember correctly. I've often wondered if he's still in the biz. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:15:09 -0800 From: Michael Godin Subject: "Sandy" > Also, a georgeous pop ballad called "Sandy' that you never hear > on the so called "oldies" stations. It was released in '65 or '66 > by Ronnie and Daytonas. Is it available on CD? Jim, You should listen to my oldies radio show, Treasure Island Oldies. I played Sandy by Ronny & The Daytonas not long ago. I will dig out my copy of Respectable by The Outsiders and play it on the show next week (not this week - The Name Game Special is happening this week: every song will have someone's name in the title). All the best. Michael Godin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:31:59 -0000 From: J. Shannon Subject: Bluebeats / The #1 all: A Connecticut garage band called the Bluebeats had a minor regional hit called "Extra Girl" in '66 on Columbia Records. A year or so later, they changed their name to The #1 and released a song called "The Collector" which charted into the top 40 again only regionally. Does anyone know if "The Collector" was actually the soundtrack to the motion picture? J. Shannon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:15:03 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach & Hal David's first production Me: > Yeah, right! :-) Have a crack at this one, then: > If the above-mentioned disc was the unlikely debut of Burt > Bacharach as credited producer, what was the first disc to bear > the legend "Produced by Bacharach and David"? Al Kooper: > What year was The Blob???? "The Blob" was from 1958. Yes, it was written by Bacharach & David; but Mack David, not his brother Hal. Burt and Hal's first production was three years later. Still no takers? Did you ever cross paths with Burt, Al? I guess that must have been kinda inevitable, given that you were both supplying material for Gene Pitney. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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