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Spectropop - Digest Number 1322

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Felman, Gottehrer, Goldstein - 60s discography
           From: Michael Edwards 
      2. Isley Brothers; Billy J. Kramer
           From: Michael Edwards 
      3. Hard Day's Night in D.C.
           From: Alan Haber 
      4. Re: Grass Roots
           From: ACJ 
      5. Monkees / D.W. Washburn
           From: Lapka Larry 
      6. Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
           From: steveo 
      7. Grass Roots
           From: Michael Edwards 
      8. Re: Uni-chord songs
           From: jerophonic 
      9. Re: Weirdly grooved records
           From: jerophonic 
     10. Re: DJ enunciation
           From: Joe Nelson 
     11. "Angels Among Us"
           From: Joe Nelson 
     12. Re: Uni-chord songs
           From: Mike McKay 
     13. Re: more Uni-chord songs
           From: Mike McKay 
     14. Re: Cilla Black vs. Dionne Warwick / Mina
           From: Julio Niño 
     15. Re: Albeth Paris's new CD
           From: Bill Reed 
     16. Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free
           From: Mike McKay 
     17. Herman Gets His Revolver
           From: Steve Harvey 
     18. "Miss Otis Regrets"
           From: Phil Chapman 
     19. Re: "You Left The Water Running"
           From: Al Kooper 
     20. Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography
           From: Austin Powell 
     21. Re: More On Commercial Music
           From: paferra 
     22. Re: Uni-chord songs
           From: Andrew Hickey 
     23. Re: Beatles, Mike Mac photo exhibits at the Smithsonian
           From: Richard Havers 
     24. Re: Dionne vs. Cilla / Lulu vs. Aretha
           From: paferra 
     25. Re: Grass Roots
           From: ACJ 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:15:33 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Felman, Gottehrer, Goldstein - 60s discography David, thank-you for compiling and publishing this. I haven't read it yet as I am going to print it out and read in bed. Hopefully, the Admin team will consider setting up a special subsection for F-G-G and include your listing. Definitely one of the great 60s' songwriting/production teams. Your message captures the true spirit of Spectropop. Totally. Thanks again, David Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:27:10 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Isley Brothers; Billy J. Kramer John Fox writes: > I myself have performed "Twist And Shout" 100s of times, and it > never occurs to me to do anything but the Lennon version with that > great G-G#-A-Bb-B-C ....C9 ending! That's something you share with Billy J Kramer, John. Billy J got to # 2 in the UK in 1963 with a slightly different version of "Do You Want To Know A Secret". It was not a hit for him in the US. When I saw Billy J Kramer in Boston a few years ago on one of those British Invasion tours (you had to admire them going into Boston with tour named as such) he sang it note for note as George did on their UK "Please Please Me' LP (US: "Introducing The Beatles"). Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:37:19 -0500 From: Alan Haber Subject: Hard Day's Night in D.C. For all you S'poppers in the Washington, D.C. area, mark your calendars for next Friday, Feb. 6. A "newly-restored print" of A Hard Day's Night will be shown, along with Ed Sullivan performances, at the American Film Institute's Silver Theatre and Cultural Center in Silver Spring, Maryland. Tix are cheap: $8.50. There are shows at 7:00 pm and 8:50 p.m.-if you're able to go, I'd opt for the 8:50 (my wife and I will be there, and we'd love to meet any S'poppers who'll be there). Attending, and participating in a post-show panel discussion, are Martin Lewis, who produced the latest HDN DVD, and, most importantly, Bruce Spizer, who's written five top-flight Beatles books that should be on every Beatles fan's bookshelf, including the latest, about the Beatles coming to America (according to the AFI site, he's going to autograph this one). I've long wanted to meet Spizer, and here's my chance! And, to see HDN on the big screen again.sounds like a night to me! Check the following for more info: Boy, what a week for Beatlemaniacs like myself! I can hear those reports of their flight to the U.S.A. on the radio.and, look at that: it's 77 W-A-Beatle-C dee-grees! Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:36:23 -0500 (EST) From: ACJ Subject: Re: Grass Roots Y'know, all this discussion of the Grass Roots reminds me: When I was a kid, one of my favorite singles was "I'd Wait A Million Years." And I thought its B-side, "Fly Me To Havana," was one of the WEIRDEST things I'd ever heard, especially that long percussion break. If I'd thought of it sooner, I'd have suggested "FMTH" to Phil Milstein for his "Play The Other Side" CD-R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lapka Larry Subject: Monkees / D.W. Washburn Dear Clark: Good analysis of the Monkees' single situation. I remember that WABC in New York played several Monkees album cuts, including "Mary Mary" and "She"--since that station was the country's No. 1 pop music station at the time, perhaps that should have signalled to Colgems and RCA that there was enough interest in these cuts to warrant single releases. Next question: why were there no single releases from the Headquarters LP? Were they too much in the midst of the Kirshner fallout, was this viewed as a lack of approval from RCA, or even a punishment? Did any other band--other than the Beatles of course-- have a major album release during that period without a single 45 being released from it (at least in the U.S.)? Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:49:09 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free lightning wrote: > I Wanna Be Free was never released as a single. It > appears on their first album, "The Monkees" (Colgems > 101) and "The Monkees Greatest Hits" (Colgems 115) Lightning, Sorry, you're more or less right. It was a jukebox EP in America (Colgems 101) and was a single in many other countires, including Japan (RCA SS-1735). The EP single I had was made in Mexico or Argentina. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:21:04 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Grass Roots Glenn writes: > One critic said "the Grass Roots' hits would go on to influence a > generation of new-wavers taken by their well-honed craftsmanship and > economy of purpose." Make that two critics, Glenn, because I agree with everything the other critic said. Two 70s' Grass Roots' tracks always worth playing: "Glory Bound" (co- written by Steve Barri) and "The Runway" (Lambert-Potter). Don't be too hard on Rhino, Glenn; they only had 36 slots to work with – not a lot when you consider the Grass Roots' output over the 10 year period 1965-75 Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:15:33 -0000 From: jerophonic Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs James Brown's great two-sided single "There Was a Time" b/w "I Can't Stand Myself (When You Touch Me)" -- both one chord songs. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:52:19 -0000 From: jerophonic Subject: Re: Weirdly grooved records Around 1980, Rhino put out "Henny Youngman's 128 Greatest Jokes", a live LP. The sticker on the shrinkwrap said "Special Multi-track (Trick Track) Mastering - The first comedy LP that never plays the same twice". According to which groove you hit, you heard a different show. (Different jokes for different folks.) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:20:20 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: DJ enunciation Reminds me of the myth that the Paul and George are singing "tit tit tit" behind John's vocal on "Girl". It's "dit", not "tit", but the t's run together and create the illusion. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:21:55 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: "Angels Among Us" Laura Pinto wrote: > Ron (Dante) has recorded the lovely song "Angels Among Us," which > will be included on his forthcoming CD. To hear an audio clip, > visit and click on the link on his homepage. Is this the same song Alabama recorded a number of years back? Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:40:18 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs Loads of blues songs by Howlin' Wolf qualify, including most notably "Moanin' at Midnight" and "Spoonful." "Lickin' Stick, Lickin' Stick" by James Brown never moves off of E9. There's The Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows" (though a dominant 7th is played against the root at the end of each verse, so that takes away from it somewhat). "Pushin' Too Hard" has only two chords, Bm and A, repeated throughout. LIkewise "I'm Alright" by The Stones (E and C#m). Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:44:36 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: more Uni-chord songs Yes, and also "Sunny South Kensington," I believe. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:14:39 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: Cilla Black vs. Dionne Warwick / Mina Hola Everybody. Although I´ve read that Burt Bacharach especially likes Cilla´s version of "Alfie", I hate that version. Everytime I listen to it I need a Valium to calm me down. In my opinion, Cilla´s voice suffocates completely the subtle melody of the song. I think most of Bacharach´s intricate and waving melodies fit better with the kind of voices that seem to float over the music ( Dionne Warwick or Lou Johnson are perfect examples). P.S.: Mike, musica is currently full so I can´t play Mina´s song. Can I send them to you via e-mail?. Chao. Julio Niño -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 06:18:30 -0000 From: Bill Reed Subject: Re: Albeth Paris's new CD David Young: > A big thank you to Bill Reed for his Albeth Paris/Paris Sisters > update in Digest 1303. So great to hear that they have a website > in the works, and that Albeth has a CD out (or out soon). No > amount of Amazoning (including the Japanese site, since I know > you're in Japan, Bill) Going to Japan again on March 23rd, but alas I don't live there full time. Wish I did. Anyone one wants info on ordering Albeth Paris' CD can email me personally and I will be happy to give them the info. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:13:12 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Monkees - I Wanna Be Free Steveo wrote: > "I Wanna Be Free" was a huge hit for the Monkees > (Davy Jones specifically on vocal) and was released as a 45. Not in the U.S. or the UK it wasn't. > It may have been a "B" side originally to another hit, but it > got a lot of airplay, and thus became a double-sided hit. > I seem to remember a picture sleeve that accompanied the 45. I don't think so. You're right that the song got a lot of airplay and was a favorite of dewy-eyed teens fixating on Davy. But unless I've missed something, it wasn't a single. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:13:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Herman Gets His Revolver Dawn Eden has a funny story about Mr. Noone of the Hermits. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hermits singer Peter Noone, who now calls himself "The Artist Formerly Known as Herman," likes to tell a story that takes place in 1966, when he was recording at Abbey Road, just upstairs from the Beatles. It's one of those classic, possibly apocryphal legends of the pop world. He often crossed paths with the Fab Four—in fact, he says, they used to steal the Hermits' gear. But nothing could prepare him for the day when, as he tells it, he was sneaking a peek at some tape boxes when he saw something so wonderful he could hardly believe it. He rang up his manager right away, unable to contain his wonder: "The Beatles wrote a song for me!" It was only later that he realized his mistake. The song, which turned up on Revolver, was "For No One". - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:50:10 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: "Miss Otis Regrets" Rob Stride: > For Spine-Shivering Performance and a HUGE epic ending, see Labelle > /"Miss Otis Regrets", as mentioned previously by Phil C., who worked > on it. I picked this single up at a jumble sale and was knocked out > by it! I must have played it 40 times the first day I got it. My > only problem is that it was scratched to hell, so if anybody has a > decent copy please let me know. I have many versions of this song, > but nothing comes as close to giving me palpitations as this little > beauty. Rob, grab those blood-pressure pills! We're in luck. Mick has a copy (natch!) and has played it to musica. It would appear that it was a UK only release. I only have the three titles on a well-worn cassette. I also had a nice note offlist from Vicki, who confirmed that it was indeed a Labelle session and not something I dreamt. Phil C -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 06:41:38 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: "You Left The Water Running" Bill Reed: > And, of course, there was a posthumously overdubbed demo of > "..Water Running"  by Otis Redding that was released. I have > always been very curious as to who produced the final recording. Posthumous Otis almost always is his Keith Richards-at-the-time, Steve Cropper. I would be surprised if it wasn't. I can always call Dan Penn if neccessary. Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:19:22 -0000 From: Austin Powell Subject: Re: Feldman, Goldstein, Gottehrer - sixties discography Accidentally deleted the posting of F-G-G- productions, but...... Can confirm Tongue Twistin' by Jennie Jordan (Jamie 1237) was an F-G-G- Production. The B side was "Baby We're Through". Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:36:26 -0000 From: paferra Subject: Re: More On Commercial Music TD wrote: > You could play the Kinks "You Really Got Me" and the > audience would shout back "Stronger Than Dirt". Glenn: > The mention of which takes us back in the other direction, > where we go from commercial jingles becoming pop songs instead > of the other way around. But I really didn't want to start a > thread on that topic. I just wanted to point out that on the > Doors' "Touch Me", unless my ears are deceiving me, muffled > under the horns in the last four notes of the song, the Doors > are actually singing "Stronger Than Dirt"! Am I right? Glenn - yes, I always thought so. Not only did we used to sing "Stronger Than Dirt" along with the Doors, the DJs usually would, too. Guess you'd have to put your headphones on and listen to it a couple of times, but even if you're wrong, you're not wrong alone :) paferra -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:02:01 +0100 From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: Uni-chord songs > Actually I believe it was just one chord throughout the whole song. > Can anyone think of any other uni-chord songs? I can't believe that > there are too many. Tomorrow Never Knows by The Beatles (although the bass implies a change at one point, it's all written over one chord) Pablo Picasso by Jonathan Richman Coconut by Harry Nilsson Hallelujah by Stealth Munchkin ;) (my own band for those who don't know) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:46:43 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Beatles, Mike Mac photo exhibits at the Smithsonian On 31 Jan 2004, at 21:35, Alan Haber wrote: > Just got back from a whirlwind walk around 70 or so previously-unseen > photos of the Beatles, documenting their arrival in the U.S. in 1964, > their appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show, and performance at the > Washington (D.C.) Coliseum. These photos, taken by Life magazine > photog Bill Eppridge, are simply astounding, and simply breathe life > before your very eyes (not so in the well-overpriced catalog, selling > for a mere $34.95 in the National Museum of American History's Music > Shop). Last year I was asked to go and look at a collection of Beatles photographs held by the University of Dundee. They have around 500, taken during the making of 'A Hard Day's Night'. Here is a link that gets you some way towards seeing what they have. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:58:50 -0000 From: paferra Subject: Re: Dionne vs. Cilla / Lulu vs. Aretha Steveo wrote: > Paul Bryant writes that Cilla Black performs "Alfie" > better than Dionne Warwick, and that also on his next > post he will explain why Lulu is a better singer than > Aretha Franklin. I don't think so on the Dionne/Cilla > issue. On the second issue, Lulu is a great singer, but > the styles between Aretha and her are very different. Steveo and Paul - this is entirely my personal opinion, but I must concur with you in part, Steveo. I think it's more a matter of who's style you prefer. Paul - yes, Lulu really does have a great voice :) and a wonderful sound - still does, too! But if anything (again, my opinion), I believe that Aretha Franklin - especially in her heyday - always had much more lung power and flexibility in her voice than Lulu ever did. paferra -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: ACJ Subject: Re: Grass Roots Dan Hughes, You're right, the original "Midnight Confessions" was by the Ever-Green Blues (as they were billed on the label). I used to have that single, but it was fragile and broke apart after only a few months - a common problem, I'm told, with Mercury and Mercury-related singles around that time. ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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