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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. You Left the water Running
           From: Frank Murphy 
      2. Re: Songs that "quote" others
           From: Art Longmire 
      3. Re: Burt Bacharach's poduction debut
           From: Michael Edwards 
      4. The Bells Of St Mary
           From: Phil Chapman 
      5. Question For Ron Dante
           From: Greg Wolf 
      6. Re: Take Five vocal
           From: Dave Heasman 
      7. Re: The Bells Of St Mary
           From: Richard Williams 
      8. Re: Songs that "quote" others / Bed-In John & Little Paul
           From: Phil Milstein 
      9. Sunrays
           From: Country Paul 
     10. Re: Lord of the Reedy River
           From: Paul Bryant 
     11. skipping records
           From: Mike Stachurski 
     12. Re: Donovan's Reedy River
           From: Steven Prazak 
     13. Re: Japanese Lyrics to "Sukiyaki"
           From: John Sellards 
     14. Re: varispeed listening
           From: TD 
     15. Re: cigarette commercial music
           From: Ed Salamon 
     16. Re: Songwriter credits, Ringo Starr
           From: Clark Besch 
     17. Re: Japanese Lyrics to "Sukiyaki"
           From: Paul Levinson 
     18. Re: Roy Hamilton
           From: Art Longmire 
     19. Re: House In The Country
           From: C Ponti 
     20. Re: Songwriters' Credits / "Theme From A Summer Place"
           From: steveo 
     21. Re: Question for Paul Evans - "Summer Souvenirs"
           From: ACJ 
     22. Italian originals
           From: Michael Edwards 
     23. Al Kooper as songwriter
           From: Ian Chapman 
     24. Re: Italian Drama
           From: Paul Bryant 
     25. Re: Italian Drama
           From: Fred Clemens 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:38:36 +0000 From: Frank Murphy Subject: You Left the water Running I believe Maurice and Mac did the original version of "You left the water Running" It was written by Box Tops producer Dan Penn, Rick Hall and ? Frank and recorded at Fame studios for Chess. Both Maurice McAlister and McLauren "Mac" Green were members of The Radiants. Dan Penn later recorded his own version on "Do right man". FrankM reflections on northern soul Saturdays at 14:30 or listen now http://www.radiomagnetic.com/archive/rnb.php -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:07:48 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: Songs that "quote" others Billy G Spradlin wrote: > How about Alex Chilton mentioning the blues classic > (don't know the original artist) "You Left The Water Running" > at the end of the Box Tops "Cry Like a Baby"? He may have been quoting Barbara Lynn's "You Left the Water Running" that was released on Huey Meax's Tribe records in 1966. I have a copy of this but don't know if it was a big hit or not. It's a great tune, by the way. It might be that it was a commonly used phrase in soul music at the time, kind of like "Sock it to me!" Speaking of which - who first used that phrase on a recording? Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:13:17 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach's poduction debut Phil Milstein wrote: > Mick, I don't believe you ever did reveal the name of > Burt Bacharach's first production credit. Before we close out the voting, I'd like to put up Babs Tino and in particular "Too Late To Worry" from 1962. It was probably not Burt's finest effort and it was eclipsed by a UK version of the song from Richard Anthony (who also recorded it in French and Italian) the following year. Likewise another Burt and Babs' effort "Keep Away >From Other Girls" loses out to a great UK version by Helen Shapiro (both 1962). Babs' best recording, Bacharach-David's "Forgive Me" was a regional hit (e.g. Massachusetts, along with Eddie Rambeau's "Summertime Guy") but I don't think it made the Hot-100. As with Adam Wade's "Rain From The Skies", Babs Tino's Burt Bacharach songs don't seem to appear on Bacharach compilation CDs. "Forgive Me" is on the UK Ace CD, "Early Girls - 02 ", one of an excellent series but I don't own any because they overlap with other CDs in my collection. "Too Late To Worry" appeared on the long-deleted Japanese A-Side CD, "Burt Bacharach Masterpieces - Vol. 1". A-Side was run by two of my mentors, Shigeru Ueno and Yoshinori Kaneko. Where are you guys, now that we need you? Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:08:15 -0000 From: Phil Chapman Subject: The Bells Of St Mary Paul Bryant: > It's what the remote control on your CD player was made for - > oops, skip!! Likewise "The Bells of St. Marys." Wow, that's possibly my favourite track on the Christmas Gift LP. I still love Bobby's vocal, even though years later I discovered it was a fair facsimile of Clyde McPhatter's earlier performance (which I also love). And let's not overlook that surreal backing track with its waterfall percussion, gospel responses and thundering drum fills (no rhythm!). Although forty years later, now that power production is taken for granted, it might seem a bit kitsch, and it's certainly been done to death annually, at the time it came out there had been nothing like it. It's the only Christmas album I can play any time of the year:-) It's suddenly snowing here in London, I think I'll play it, LOUD. And as I reach for my anorak, I'm reminded that "The Bells..." is a rare example of Phil S actually allowing a playing error to go through. (That should sort out the true S'pop 'raks). Phil C. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:29:59 -0000 From: Greg Wolf Subject: Question For Ron Dante Ron: I remember when I was a teenager you recorded a theme song for a TV show called "Sweepstakes" . I think the song was called "Without A Dream". Can you give me any info on the song and your personal recollection of it. I think it was written by Charlie Fox and Norman Gimbel but I'm not sure.. Thank Ron! -Greg Wolf -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:45:19 -0000 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Re: Take Five vocal previously: > Wasn't there a vocal version of Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"? Al Kooper: > That would probably have been Lambert Hendricks & Ross on > Columbia. Carmen MacRae, also on Columbia. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:15:04 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re: The Bells Of St Mary Paul Bryant wrote: > It's what the remote control on your CD player was made > for - oops, skip!! Likewise 'The Bells of St. Marys.' Good grief, Paul! "The Bells of St Mary" is Bobby Sheen's finest hour, and Hal Blaine's, too (unless it was Earl Palmer's, of course). It carves everything else on the Christmas album to ribbons. Orchestral rock and roll in excelsis! Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:26:12 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Songs that "quote" others / Bed-In John & Little Paul Billy G Spradlin wrote: > How about Alex Chilton mentioning the blues classic (dont know the > original artist) "You Left The Water Running" at the end of the Box > Tops "Cry Like a Baby"? Chilton's later group, Big Star, had a song called "Mod Lang," the lyric to which Chilton claimed was comprised of a sequence of blues cliches all strung together. Michael Godin wrote: > I will never forget having the good fortune when I was 16 I was able to > have a phone interview with John while he and Yoko were in Montreal in > 1969 at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel for their "Bed-In For Peace". > Imagine...I was a 16 year old kid interviewing his hero on my high > school radio station. His first comment, you ask? "Hello high school!" > I'll never forget. You wouldn't happen to still have a tape of that int., would you Michael? Paul Bryant wrote: > I always struggle with "Long Tall Sally" - it's as good as Little > Richard. But how can that be? Little Richard was the quasar of rock. Of course, Sir Paul had a bit of help with that one -- lessons in "how to do Little Richard" from Little Richard himself! Which is not to say that you or I could've done half so well had we had the same training ... --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:52:49 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Sunrays A friend and former fellow on-air personality at WHCN, Jim Shannon, had a brief e-mail dialog with Eddy Medora of the Sunrays, and gave me permission to reprint it here. "Eddy, came across your site the other day. Brings back plenty of good memories. I was 15 when I first heard "Live for the Sun" blasting on WABC radio in NY. Great vocals, hooks, and lyrics. I think it charted to number 5. These days, you really don't hear the song that much on the so called "oldies radio", which is too bad. "How far did 'Andrea' chart as your follow up single?" Eddy responded: "Thanks for the props. I think we made #21 in Billboard but we were #1 in Austrialia and Chicago top ten in England. 'Andrea' sold more than 'Sun.' See my wife's site: http://ann_marshall0.tripod.com . I had a couple more hits with my wife singing lead, I sang background and played guitar. Tony Scotti sang with me as well. It was a great album. "Happy New Year. Order the Freddy & Eddy CD. $8.00. I have been writing with Freddy Boom Boom Cannon. Also a Sunray CD never released. Eddy & Marty both CD's for $16.00. "Regards, "Eddy Medora" His wife, Ann Marshall, was in "My Favorite Martian" and "My Three Sons." On her photo page, about 1/3 down, is a snapshot with Eddy Medora, Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche. Elsewhere on the page are shots with Sonny Bono, Paul Petersen, Freddy Cannon, Tony and Ben Scotti (of the Scotti Brothers), Johnny Tillotson and Pat Boone (!). Eddy Medora has a Sunrays website at http://sunrays718.tripod.com ; when the page opens, you hear a stereo mix of "I Live For The Sun." Follow the "buttons" on top of the page -- some cool pix here, too, even one with Carol Connors and one with David Marks (!) on the "Sunrays and Eddy Medora" page. Two interesting sites, not in the least because of their home-made quality. And now you know. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:58:16 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Lord of the Reedy River Art Longmire wrote: > includes a great version of "Reedy River", > so I wondered if it had ever been released on a studio LP. HMS Donovan pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:37:56 +1300 From: Mike Stachurski Subject: skipping records This might be opening me up to public ridicule, but... I think the record you mean is "Wombling White Tie and Tails" That was my turn at Batt - after being initially stumped... ;) Mike Stachurski, Librarian-in-training DUNEDIN, NZ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:07:27 -0500 From: Steven Prazak Subject: Re: Donovan's Reedy River Art Longmire: > ...the Donovan song "Lord of the Reedy River". Does anybody > know if Donovan ever recorded a studio version of this, and if so > which of his albums (or CDs) is it on?" I'm told this track appears on the HMS Donovan album. Don't know of its CD availability at present. And yes, it's a great tune! Be sure not to miss his complete performance of it in the film "If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium" during the obligatory counter-culture/hippie den scene. Steven Prazak Atlanta, GA -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:15:39 -0000 From: John Sellards Subject: Re: Japanese Lyrics to "Sukiyaki" David Coyle wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find the Japanese > lyrics to "Sukiyaki" by Ryu Sakamoto, spelled out > phonetically? I've always thought it would be a hoot > to do a cover of this song. A songwriter friend of mine recently played a show at Brown's diner in Nashville and announced that, after years of playing here and there down there, he was going to do his first cover song. I guess they were expecting "Unchained Melody" or something, but they got..."Sukiyaki"! I also have actually played it with him at a sock hop we did about two years ago. It's funny that you mention this, since he was at my house last Saturday and we were talking about it. John Sellards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:08:57 -0500 From: TD Subject: Re: varispeed listening Al Kooper wrote: > I gotta say that back in the days of marijuana, I quite enjoyed > perusing certain 45s at 33+1/3. Bob Radil: > That just reminded me of another example. Back in 1978 someone > noticed that if you take the LP of "Imaginary Lover" by The Atlanta > Rhythm Section and play it at 45rpm, the lead singer sounds a bit like > Stevie Nicks! Someone told me that one station actually played it on > the air that way! On the label of the 45rpm record of "Fun House" by The Roosters, there was a printed invitation to play the 45 at 33 - TD -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:09:17 -0000 From: Ed Salamon Subject: Re: cigarette commercial music Art Longmire: > I've always been a fanatical anti-smoker, but I've > got to admit there was a lot of great music used on > TV ads in the days of cigarette commercials. Another great one is Paul Evans' "Happiness Is", a hit by Ray Conniff, which became the first of many commercial jingles Paul wrote when it was used as "To a smoker it's a Kent" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:54:34 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Songwriter credits, Ringo Starr Artie Wayne wrote: > What if John and Paul had encouraged Ringo to develop his writing > skills? We might have more to talk about on Spectropop. Artie, Great story. Actually, John and Paul did encourage Ringo to write--kinda. They did so on BBC radio in 63 (?). Now, whether they really wanted that, you never know. The radio host (to my memory) asked Ringo if he ever wrote any songs. Ringo says, "naw". Paul butts in, "no, you have!! 'Don't pass by, don't make me cry...'". Ringo says something like, "well, nothing we'd really record". Hmm took about 6 years, but turned out well! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:07:42 -0000 From: Paul Levinson Subject: Re: Japanese Lyrics to "Sukiyaki" David Coyle wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find the Japanese > lyrics to "Sukiyaki" by Ryu Sakamoto, spelled out > phonetically? I've always thought it would be a hoot > to do a cover of this song. The real, Japanese title of the song is "Ue O Muite Aruko" (lyrics by Rokusuke Ei, music by Hachidai Nakamura) and translates as "I Look Up When I Walk". (The poetic first line is, "I look up when I walk so the tears won't fall...") "Sukiyaki" was just slapped on as the title for Kyo Sakamoto's world-wide release. I discuss Sukiyaki/I Look Up When I Walk as an example of the disconnect between language and reality, in my book, Realspace: The Fate of Physical Presence in the Digital Age, published last year by Routledge. I loved the song as a kid, but had no idea it had nothing to do with noodles and vegetables. Anyway, you can find the lyrics in various renditions in half a dozen places on the web. (I don't have the pages in front of me, but they come right up on a search.) All best, Paul http://www.sff.net/people/paullevinson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:27:31 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: Roy Hamilton Hello Howard, I absolutely agree that Roy's late 60s output was both superb and neglected. I have the 45 of "100 Years" on AGP Records here in the U.S., and it has always been a great favorite of mine. This was recorded at the American Studios in Memphis, and I've always wanted to hear more of Roy's songs from this era. Were the other songs mentioned recorded at American Studios? I never knew that "100 Years" was a Bill Medley cover. The record label does mention that the song comes from the movie "Riot". Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:42:54 -0000 From: C Ponti Subject: Re: House In The Country Al, I have been listening to CHILD IS..alot recently. Was the baby who did the cooing and gurgling on "House...", at the end, anyone in the band's? I imagine that kid, now an adult marveling at having that audio snapshot of his/her infancy. I actually got to meet the dogs one hears at the end of "Pet Sounds". I have forgotten their names, (banana?) but they are much mentioned on cabinessence.com C Ponti -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:52:43 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: Songwriters' Credits / "Theme From A Summer Place" Chris: > Shouldn't that be *Max Steiner*'s "Theme from 'A Summer Place'"? Chris, Max and his studio co-horts were caught off guard by the fact that Mr. Steiner,a film composer in his 70s would have a number one hit for over 4 weeks in a row! The actual theme from "A Summer Place" was not the one that Percy used. He used a theme from the pic called "Molly and Johnny", a 12/8 thing, but it became forever known thereafter as the "Theme From A Summer Place". Part of the success to this wonderful record was the way Columbia Records was using echo at their studio at that time. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: ACJ Subject: Re: Question for Paul Evans - "Summer Souvenirs" Paul Evans - if indeed you're out there: I've seen your website several times, and it's a nice, professional, interesting job. (Much like its subject.) But in your list of songs you'd written, one song you didn't note - at least not the last time I looked in - was "Summer Souvenirs", a tune you co-wrote with J. Krondes and a single by one Karl Hammell, Jr. Any memories of that song or that record? Thanks, and I hope you're enjoying S'pop! (I am. Massively.) ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:57:27 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Italian originals Steve writes (re: Italian originals): > Grande Grande Grande - Mina > Never Never Never - Shirley Bassey Wow! I bet that's terrific. Julio Iglesias did a great version of this song too. I'm not sure in what language as you never know with Julio, he's just so talented. A former Real Madrid goalkeeper too. Can anyone play Mina's version to musica? Her stuff is difficult to track down even if you contact Italy. Sidebar I tell who would have turned in a good job on Italian songs if he could have been bothered. Elvis. Very nice list btw, Steve - great job! Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:22:18 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Al Kooper as songwriter Al Kooper wrote: > Just to help out some 'poppers I thought I'd take some info > from the discograpgy on me website to see if I could get some > keys clickin' on some of these obscurities....... A few comments on your list of songs, Al: "Don't Take Candy from A Stranger" Gene Pitney. Love it! Could almost be a girl-group number with the jangling piano and castanets. And are those bagpipes? "Last Two People On Earth" Gene Pitney. I have an obscure Brit cover of this one by Dave Rich, produced by the mysterious Claire Francis, an American singer/writer/producer that worked in Britain and who had a couple of releases of her own, including the awesome "But I Don't Care." (Any further info on Claire would be most welcome). "She's Still There" Gene Pitney. One of the highlights of the "Looking Thru The Eyes Of Love" album. This is a classic Gene- type scenario; a letter from his best friend tells him his ex- girlfriend is still in the hometown he left and is about to be married. Gene returns, against his friend's advice, who first warns him to stay away and leave the happy couple be. But the killer line comes at the end of the letter (and the song); "But if you still care....PS she's still there..." Has such a brief line ever said so much! It fades with Gene in a turmoil of indecision "...should I go back?....she might want me, and need me, and love me..." This should have been a single. "Rainy Days Were Made For Lonely People" Pat Boone. I only discovered this last year; I'd long had a UK version by Lorne Lesley (wife of the Orange Duke himself, David Dickinson; a name that won't mean a thing to non-UK TV viewers!) Hers lacks the production values of Pat's record, which is one of his later outings from '65. A moody ballad alternating quiet verse (marked by "raindrop" glockenspiel) and tumultuous Spectorish chorus, with Pat double-tracked and supported by female b-vox. Produced by Norm Ratner and arr. Tommy Oliver, it's a perfect partner to Pat's other 'Spectro-cred' record, the Brian Wilson-produced two-sider of 1964, "Beach Girl"/"Little Honda." (God, I love his version of "Beach Girl"!) A few more songs not on your list, Al, but which should be drawn to the collective Spectropop attention: "It's Been Nice Loving You" in a similar vein to the Boone song, I only know this by UK singer Don Fardon, ex-singer with the Sorrows, who later hit with "Indian Reservation." I've never tracked down an American original, but I think it may be by Calvin Grayson on Capitol (can you confirm, Al?) As far as the Don Fardon version goes, it's another richly produced ballad that builds to a crescendo with a big production and it would have suited the Righteous Bros to a T. Can anyone play Calvin Grayson (if appropriate) to musica? And I'll reciprocate with Don Fardon. "Love Trap" T.D. Valentine as played on the UK northern soul scene back in the 70s. "You Can't Lose Something You Never Had" Bruce Scott a gorgeous ballad, kinda faux-Bacharach with Bruce singing the opening line, "You never loved me, really loved me...." almost in Dionne Warwick fashion. Again, the song follows the soft verse/big chorus formula to great effect. If this had been done by somebody like say, Roy Hamilton, it'd be a soul masterpiece. That's no criticism of Bruce, his voice is especially effective on the softer passages. And finally, isn't it about time somebody mentioned Wendy Hill and "Gary, Please Don't Sell My Diamond Ring"? :-) Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Italian Drama Steve wrote: > I was fascinateed to know as well - and just LOOK > what I found out!! Hi Steve - excellent work there - I'd like to throw in three more, I suspect these have Italian origins also: All Alone Am I - Brenda Lee I Will Follow Him - Little Peggy March Love's Just a Broken Heart - Cilla Black I could be three times wrong of course! Dusty also did a couple which sound exactly like great Italian ballads but which are entirely English, I think - All I See is You, and Losing You. Next question, for Italians only - why'd you stop writing those great ballads? pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:51:39 -0000 From: Fred Clemens Subject: Re: Italian Drama Two songs immediately come to mind in this Italian Drama. First off, Paolo Citorello's "Luna Mezzo Mare" evolved into two English language versions. First came Rudy Vallee's "Oh! Ma-Ma! (The Butcher Boy)" in 1938. And then Lou Monte's mixed up song, "Lazy Mary". The full *Behind The Hits* story by Bob Shannon can be found here: http://www.bobshannon.com/stories/lazymaryback.html Then comes the Grass Roots 1967 Hit, "Let's Live For Today", which began life a year earlier in Italian by the Rokes, as "Piangi Con Me". For my story on that, go here: http://www.bobshannon.com/fred/letslive.html Fred Clemens -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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