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Spectropop - Digest Number 1290



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Spine Shiverers / Big Finishes
           From: Paul Bryant 
      2. Stroboscoping
           From: Dan Hughes 
      3. Unchained Melody
           From: Paul Bryant 
      4. Re: Album stories
           From: Sean Anglum 
      5. Sammy Davis Jnr
           From: Simon White 
      6. Re: "Do It Now" LP
           From: Charles G. Hill 
      7. Gary Busey
           From: KAMR 
      8. Re: Ed Rambeau
           From: Country Paul 
      9. Help movie
           From: steveo 
     10. Re: vocals versions of instrumentals
           From: steveo 
     11. Re: Spine Shiverers / Big Finishes
           From: John Sellards 
     12. Re: Lead Vocal on This Diamond Ring
           From: Mikey 
     13. Re: Variable Speed Oscilator/Hastening the track...
           From: Robert R. Radil 
     14. Re: Fuzzy Bunnies...heard of them?
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     15. Re: The Zombies Live On
           From: Dan Hughes 
     16. Re: Steve Tudanger & the 4 Evers
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     17. Re: stroboscoping
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     18. Ron Hicklin
           From: Bob Celli 
     19. Re: vocals versions of instrumentals
           From: Rat Pfink 
     20. Re: stroboscoping
           From: Rat Pfink 
     21. Re: "My Own Two Feet"
           From: Ed Rambeau 
     22. Four Evers CD
           From: Mark 
     23. Re: stroboscoping
           From: Dieter 
     24. Emitt Rhodes article
           From: Stratton Bearhart 
     25. Vance & Pockriss
           From: Austin Powell 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:25:31 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Spine Shiverers / Big Finishes > Back to center on this thread: how about the great > vocal 'bong' at the end of Thomas Wayne's "Tragedy" ? I'm a fan of Big Finishes, so with a nod to the already acknowledged "Since I Don't Have You" (Skyliners) how about "Smoke gets in your....EYESSSSSS" by the Platters, Dusty howling "believe me!!" (oh I did, I did) at the end of "You don't hafta say you love me", and the very Righteous Bros' "Ebb TIIIIIIDDDDDDDEEEEE" - which is very wonderful. Oh, and pretty much anything at all by Roy Orbison, but let's go for "It's Over". Ba-ba-ba-ba-boom! pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:28:41 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Stroboscoping Kim, it's called a stroboscope because it is a strobe light. That is, it blinks rapidly--so rapidly it looks like a steady light to you. In the USA the blink rate is 60 times per second. If the lines on your pattern are turning so that every time the strobe blinks a new line is right where the previous one was 1/60th of a second ago, the line appears to be standing still. If the line is moving forward, your turntable is turning too fast and if it's moving backwards your turntable is too slow. There are two sets of lines because one is for 45 rpm records and the other for albums (33 1/3 rpm). If you can't get the lines to match at all, you may have a turntable that is set for a 50 flashes-per-second (European) rate rather than 60 flashes-per-second (American). And like was said, the Art Laboe Audio Fidelity oldies albums have the strobe lines printed on the label. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:38:59 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Unchained Melody Dear Poppers Strange Spector-related fact. There was a book published last year called "Top 100 Singles - the definitive chart of the UK's best-selling songs Ever". So - which Phil Spector-related song figured not once but twice in the Top 40? Unchained Melody. But not by the Righteous Brothers! First at No 9 in a version by Robson & Jerome in 1995 (two actor-singers who had a hit TV series). This was a double A side with The White Cliffs of Dover, another Righteous hit. Total sales of this version, 01 .8 million. Then down at No 38, a version by a brand new pop idol Gareth Gates in 2002 - sales, 01 .3 million. Note - The RB's version was a No 14 hit here in 65, then a rereleased big old No 1 hit in 1990. And originally in 1955 it was a No 2 hit for some guy called Al Hibbler (!) and yet another No 1 hit for a British crooner called Jimmy Young. Ooof! That's FOUR times this song has been No 1 in the UK - we love it! pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:40:28 -0700 From: Sean Anglum Subject: Re: Album stories I remember being impressed by the photographs and album design of the first Doors album. Snatched it up right away and was the musical soothsayer in my circle of friends within a few months. Same thing happened with the first Moby Grape album. Little did I know that what was inside of that cool looking cover would blow my mind. STILL in my top 10 alums of all time! Same went for the Gene Clark with the Gosdin Bros. LP. I loved how it looked so I bought it, but my friends thought it sounded like garbage. I've been vindicated there, too. A true classic. I also remember going downtown with my Mom in 1967 to pickup the new Beatles album, not knowing that beginning with Sgt. Pepper, Capitol was increasing their retail price for Stereo by one buck. Being used to paying a certain amount for albums at my favorite record shop, I brought along just enough dough to purchase the new STEREO Beatles LP. WRONG! I was a buck short, so I had to walk out with a MONO copy. I was initially quite bummed. But boy, am I ever glad I was a buck short! I've kept that puppy in good shape and it is now worth a pretty sum. And, of course, the listening experience of the mono Pepper is unbelievable!! I miss those vinyl days. -Sean -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:47:13 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Sammy Davis Jnr Howard wrote: > Sammy Davies Jr. did a vocal to Hawaii 5-0 which was an album track, > but I'm damned if I can remember the title of either now. > Spectropoppers - help :-) This track gained a certain amount of > 'fame' due to spins at the Wigan Casino. Howard, it was "You Can Count On Me", which of course you knew, and I can't remember the album title either, but it was on 20th Century. It came up on Spectropop before I think. Sammy has two later (minor) Northern plays with "The Shelter Of Your Arms", also done magnificently by the great Bobby Sheen, and "Not For Me", the Bobby Darin song. -- Simon I must get a little hand for this watch. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:01:33 -0600 From: Charles G. Hill Subject: Re: "Do It Now" LP Mark Hill (no relationship) remembers: > Wasn't DO IT NOW the only (or one of the few) compilations like this, > to ever include a BEATLES track? I think it's "Nowhere Man." It does indeed. I've written a little piece about this very LP, at: http://www.dustbury.com/music/doitnow.html. cgh -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:14:06 -0600 From: KAMR Subject: Gary Busey > Any sign of Denny Cordell at that time and place? Never saw him (Denny) but I did forget to mention that on Gailard Sartain's Saturday Late-Night Mazzeppa show was Gary Busey as a regular and played a part known as "Teddy-Jack Eddy" He was the white teashirted with the cigarette pack rolled up in the shoulder sleeves al la "Grease" but saw him him get out of a car once and strolled over to strike up good converstation and he politley invited me to and I quote "F*** off twit, I'm busy". But I still liked him. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:22:15 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Re: Ed Rambeau Ed Rambeau: > my recording of "Summertime Guy". Great record, Eddie; in a righteous world, it would have been the smash it deserved to be. I can't believe I never heard it when new, but at least now I know why! Ed again: > As far as "Concrete and Clay" being used in a national TV > commercial....it came as quite a surprise. But boy did I > get the calls from friends the minute it hit the air waves. Hope you're getting good royalties! Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:00:24 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Help movie I sure would like someone to take the Beatles film "Help" and edit it down to an hour...taking out a lot of the lousy or boring parts. It would be a worthwhile thing to see. A lot of purists will be grimmacing....sorry. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:02:20 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: vocals versions of instrumentals Howard wrote: > Sammy Davies Jr. did a vocal to Hawaii 5-0 which was > an album track, but I'm damned if I can remember the > title of either now. Spectropoppers - help :-) This > track gained a certain amount of 'fame' due to spins > at the Wigan Casino. There may be a reason why Sammy recorded that. His former conductor and friend Morty Stevens wrote that, before George Rhodes, his newer conductor, took over. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:10:16 -0000 From: John Sellards Subject: Re: Spine Shiverers / Big Finishes > Back to center on this thread: how about the great vocal 'bong' at > the end of Thomas Wayne's "Tragedy" ? ...or the great last chord of "Been So Long" by the Pastels. Maybe this is a new thread - great endings???? John Sellards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:17:45 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Lead Vocal on This Diamond Ring Me: > Gary sang most of the vocals, altho if you listen VERY > closely to some of the stereo mixes, youll hear Ron Hinclins > voice coming thru as the "guide" track for Gary. Al Kooper: > BTW thats Ron Hicklin - a famous LA vocal contractor who helped > me tremendously when I lived in LA He got all the backup singers > for all my LA solo albums and The Tubes first album that I > produced. I'm VERY impressed that you know that it's him singing > lead on This Diamond Ring as well as others Thanks Al. I do pride myself on that kind of stuff. Actually, my band played a fair on the same bill as Gary in 1990 and I went over to talk to him. He is SUCH a great guy. Spent an hour telling me about cool stuff from his Liberty days. Did you know that on some records (45s) Gary has laid down 6 vocal tracks!!! There are also several unrealeased cuts that they did in the early days lurking about the Libery Vaults. Man i wish Bear Family would do a 5 Cd box set on Gary Lewis!! I mean they did Lesley Gore, why not Gary? He had 14 chart records!!!! mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:19:15 -0000 From: Robert R. Radil Subject: Re: Variable Speed Oscilator/Hastening the track... C Ponti wrote: > On almost every session I remember from the 60s, there was a time > when the VSO would be brought out. After the tracks were mixed, we > would experiment to see if the cut was improved by being sped up a > hair. The effect was to compress and integrate the track. Also the > voices had more energy, (of course they were higher), and the > instruments had a more saturated sound. There are many many examples of songs where the speeds on the single and LP versions don't match. A few off the top of my head: "Baker Street" 3:45 promo edit - Gerry Rafferty, runs much faster. "Baby Come Back" - Player, LP version runs slow to my ears. "When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman" 12" single - Dr. Hook, runs much faster. Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:59:06 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Fuzzy Bunnies...heard of them? superoldies: > They had a low charter in 1968 on Decca with "The Sun Ain't Gonna > Shine Anymore". Typical '68 psych-rock. Haven't been able to find > anything on the web about them...anyone know? I know a little bit. What do you want to know? You might search the S'Pop archives first--they have been discussed a bit in the past. I'll tell you one thing, they sure were very well produced. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:55:28 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: The Zombies Live On Jake, you mentioned a lot of songs the Zombies are performing nowadays. What about my two favorites--Leave Me Be and Caroline Goodbye? Thanks, ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:07:02 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Steve Tudanger & the 4 Evers doowopdaddy writes: > Sorry to hear about Steve. Steve Tudanger is a great guy and a great underappreciated talent. If he could only see how many people remember him and love his music--that would be a very special thing at this time in his life. C'mon guys--how about those letters to him. In case you missed it the first time around, I'm trying to put together a group of "fan" notes to him. Send to: bookedybookedy@aol.com. I'll take care of getting them to him. His health is fragile. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:12:35 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: stroboscoping > Mention of turntable stroboscopes spurs me to ask--how the heck > do these things work, anyway? My 2nd or 3rd hand turntable has > a red light near the stylus that creates two bands of vertical > lines that spin in opposite directions, and no matter what I do > with the pitch switch, they never quite sync up. Is it the top > or the bottom band that is supposed to be adjusted until it's > still? Surely a Spectropopper has the answer! There should be four rings--two for 50Hz and 2 for 60Hz AC. One of each is for 33RPM and the other for 45RPM. That's what I think anyway. Rashkovsky (at the limit of his tech knowledge) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:40:21 -0000 From: Bob Celli Subject: Ron Hicklin Mikey wrote: > Gary sang most of the vocals, altho if you listen VERY > closely to some of the stereo mixes, youll hear Ron Hinclins > voice coming thru as the "guide" track for Gary. Al Kooper: > BTW thats Ron Hicklin - a famous LA vocal contractor who helped me > tremendously when I lived in LA He got all the backup singers for > all my LA solo albums and The Tubes first album that I produced. > I'm VERY impressed that you know that it's him singing lead on This > Diamond Ring as well as others. Al, It's a pretty well known fact that Hicklin sang lead on Gary's sessions. Snuffy's been telling that story for years. He actually wanted Bobby Vee to sing along with Ron on a song called "Butterfly" in the mid sixties and Bobby flat out refused. Ron, Al Capps, and Stan Farber backed Bobby on the "I Remember Buddy Holly" lp, and the ill fated 'Sings The New Sound From England". They also did backgrounds on "Where Is She", a Vee single which has become a doo wop collectable even to the point that it was bootlegged and label credits read The Eligibles (with Bobby Vee)! Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:20:21 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: vocals versions of instrumentals Howard wrote: > Sammy Davies Jr. did a vocal to Hawaii 5-0 which was an album > track, but I'm damned if I can remember the title of either now. > Spectropoppers - help :-) I don't know which album it was on but the title was "You Can Count On Me" and it was the b-side of the 45 "Snap Your Fingers" (20th Century 6162-101, 1976). RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:29:22 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: stroboscoping Kim Cooper wrote: > Mention of turntable stroboscopes spurs me to ask--how the heck do > these things work, anyway? My 2nd or 3rd hand turntable has a red > light near the stylus that creates two bands of vertical lines that > spin in opposite directions, and no matter what I do with the pitch > switch, they never quite sync up. Is it the top or the bottom band > that is supposed to be adjusted until it's still? Surely a > Spectropopper has the answer! They're not supposed to sync up with each other, one row is for 45 and the other is for 33 1/3. When the appropriate band appears to be standing still and not moving then speed is adjusted correctly. RP -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:09:31 EST From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Re: "My Own Two Feet" Ian Chapman: > Ed, were you ever aware of (Kenny Lynch's version of "My Own Two > Feet")? If not, it's currently playing at musica for everybody to > check out. Yes, I was aware of this version. I never really heard the Hal Miller version and the Kenny Lynch version side by side to evaluate which I like better. How does one get to MUSICA? Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:43:38 -0000 From: Mark Subject: Four Evers CD Mike Edwards: > I'm not sure whether or not it turned up in stores but a phenomenal > 4 Evers' CD appeared on the Magic Carpet label in the mid-90s. The > cover says Steve Tudanger and the 4-Evers produced it. The CD > features a 12 page booklet and 33 tracks. While the 4 Evers music was great this CD is horrible sounding. I have over 2,000 CDs in my collection and this is by far the worst sounding thing I have. Most of the songs are taken off of horrible condition, scratchy records with no attempt whatsoever made to de-noise them or clean them up. While this group is not popular enought to ever get a legitimate release there are many other bootleggers out there who have some sort of professional pride in what they release. This CD is a complete hack job. Good music, abominable sound quality. There are many things that can be done to make lousy vinyl sound better even if its just a DAT transfer through a sound enhancer. Absolutely nothing was done with these recordings other than a straight copy onto a CD. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:45:19 EST From: Dieter Subject: Re: stroboscoping Most of the turntables had 4 different patterns. For 50/60Hz (Europe/US) and for 33/45rpm's. The lamp brings the light in the appropriate freqency automatically. Dieter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:42:20 -0000 From: Stratton Bearhart Subject: Emitt Rhodes article I was saddened to read the article on Emitt Rhodes. It's a shock to see what time and the vagaries of the music business can do to a guy. I'm a great fan of his garage sound, if only someone could help Emitt reconstruct the little studio to get back on track as has his famous neigbor in Hawthorne.... As Emitt said, songs are wishes, and my wish is for his good health and return to music. Stratton. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:41:24 -0000 From: Austin Powell Subject: Vance & Pockriss Alan Warner's dip into this Vance-Pockriss file revealed Lee Pockriss collaborated with Hal David.....Question: In 1960, a David/Pockriss song, "Lovelight" was used on the B side of an (UK) MGM release (when EMI handled the label in Britain) "Lop-Sided, Over-Loaded (And It Wiggled When We Rode It)" (Brian Hyland also recorded this) by an act called Hank & Dave.....Does anyone know who Hank & Dave were? Was this Lee Pockriss and a.n.other ? The writers credited with the "A" side were Kusick-Anton, but the UK label gave no production credit... Any ideas anyone ? Alan ?? Don't let me down, I've had this record for 43 years and have never found a clue about Hank & David... Austin Powell. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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