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Spectropop - Digest Number 1285



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: lyrics to instrumentals
           From: steveo 
      2. Re: Biggest record label blunders!
           From: Mike McKay 
      3. Re: The Cake
           From: Mike McKay 
      4. spine-shiverers
           From: John Lang 
      5. Dylan & Wilson
           From: Al Kooper 
      6. Re: Ben Findon / Bubblegum
           From: Howard 
      7. Re: There Is no Greater Sin
           From: Al Kooper 
      8. Re: Clusters
           From: Al Kooper 
      9. Re: spine-shiver songs
           From: Austin Roberts 
     10. Re: Billy Ocean
           From: Austin Roberts 
     11. Re: Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind
           From: Eddy 
     12. Re: Steve Tudanger & the Four-Evers
           From: Mick Patrick 
     13. stroboscope
           From: Wendy Flynn 
     14. Jeff Lynne/Mike McKay
           From: Peter Kearns 
     15. Re: Elvis Sun Records master tapes
           From: John Sellards 
     16. Re: Planet Rock
           From: Al Kooper 
     17. vocals versions of instrumentals
           From: Tony Waitekus 
     18. Re: Gary Lewis / John West
           From: Mikey 
     19. Re: Instrumental vocals
           From: ACJ 
     20. Re: "I Think We're Alone Now" sdrawkcaB :eR
           From: Robert R. Radil 
     21. Re: Biggest record label blunders!
           From: Tom Taber 
     22. Rag Dolls Photo
           From: Ian Slater 
     23. Patricia Ann Michaels - Tar And Cement
           From: Phil Milstein 
     24. Re: Label Blunders
           From: steveo 
     25. Re: Norma Tanega
           From: Ed Rambeau 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: lyrics to instrumentals Dr. Mark wrote: > I wonder if there's a vocal version of WIPEOUT! Fred Clemens: > I don't know of any "WIPEOUT" vocal, but I was > surprised to run > across a few interesting vocal versions in recent > years. > "I Love Lucy" sung by Desi Arnaz > "Sleep Walk" sung by Betsy Brye ...a follow up on Canadian- > American to the Santo and Johnny original. Surprisingly (or > not), she used a different instrumental track. > "Wheels" sung by Robb Storme and the Whispers ...this was cut > in the UK, with lyrics added by Wylie Grace in 1961. The > original Storme sheet music also gives Norman Petty credit. > When Storme performed the song, he added even more lyrics, > which had been written in on the sheet music as "la-la's". Fred, I so love to see the trite lyrics added to TV themes and instrumentals to make a buck. Star Trek has words, but of course it didn't go over. I also understand someone tried to write lyrics to Mission:Impossible lol lol Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:56:40 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Biggest record label blunders! The time given for Simon and Garfunkel's "Fakin' It" on the single release is "2:74"! Not a blunder, I suppose, as it was no doubt intentional, but on "Mechanical World", the B-side of an early single by Spirit, the time is simply listed as "(very long)"! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:49:30 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: The Cake Art Longmire wrote: > Regarding Cake on the Smothers Brothers, they were from Sacramento, > California where I live...I didn't realize they'd ever made such a > high-profile television appearance. I have a three page article on > them somewhere around the house. Your description of their TV > performance sounds hilarious. I know I saw the Cake at least one other time on TV in addition to their Smothers Brothers performance; perhaps even more than that. The original poster's description of the blonde member standing stock still and singing with a glazed-eye expression as if she were stoned out of her mind is spot-on. This was her standard shtick, and she performed this way all the times I saw them. The Cake's two albums on Decca have some good things on them. For many tracks, they seem to be backed up by exactly the same musicians who appeared on Dr. John's "Gris-Gris" album, including Harold Battiste (Mac wrote a couple of the songs as well). Most of all, there's a transcendent, a cappela track on the second album called "Under the Tree of Love and Laughter," complete with voodoo chanting in the background, that's unlike anything you've ever heard. Highly recommended! Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:20:59 -0800 From: John Lang Subject: spine-shiverers These are some right off the top: 1. the Ronnie Spector sigh in "You Baby" 2. the glissando effects in the 4 Seasons "Candy Girl" 3. the Ronette's "When I Saw You" .... I knew that I would lose my mind 4. the drum break in "Be My Baby" ... and everything else about Be My Baby.... (Ronettes) 5. seeing and hearing Martha Reeves sing "live" ....so naturally beautiful and a voice like brass! 6. guitar effects in the 4 Season's "Teardrops" 7. Patti LaBelle going over the top singing "O Holy Night" 8. "In My Room" by the Beach Boys 9. "Don't Worry Baby" .... Beach Boys 10. seeing Ike and Tina Turner "live" with the Ikettes ... shake it baby! 11. "Paradise"....... the Ronettes 12. "Born To Be Together"......the Ronettes 13. "I Only Have Eyes For You".... the Flamingos 14. Bette Midler getting a standing ovation at the Cave in Vancouver before coming out on the stage. That's 'charisma'! John Lang -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:30:58 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Dylan & Wilson > Try as I might, I just couldn't see Dylan as a Beach Boys fan in any > significant way, nor vice versa, as their perspectives, styles and > attitudes just seemed so remote from each other's. And yet here is > evidence that even that pair had some crosstalk, albeit minor. I actually have a photo of Dylan & Wilson together that I made into a tee-shirt that says: Separated At Birth???? AK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:39:42 -0500 From: Howard Subject: Re: Ben Findon / Bubblegum Austin Powell wrote: > Much later Ben ran his own Spirit label, which had its only > success with two records by British comedian/TV entertainer > Russ Abbott... Russ Abbott was drummer and vocalist with The Black Abbotts who had a release (or 2?) on the 'evolution' label. ...Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:50:56 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: There Is no Greater Sin Guy sez: > Another (Kooper/Levine) favourite of mine is the Byrdsy > "There Is No Greater Sin" a '65 single by the Boys Next Door. Dan Hughes: > Guy, I think you've sparked a long-buried memory here. Is the > full line "And there is no greater sin / Than what you're tryin' > to do"? Where was the group from and what label were they on? > I feel sure I know that song, and I was thinking it was a local > group (from the midwest US). All I remember about that is that the Boys Next Door were produced by The Tokens. A few years ago there was a Boys Next Door CD on Sundazed and I snatched that up to have a digital copy of There is No Greater Sin. Lyrics?? She's a poor man's daughter she dont do the world no harm She goes to church on Sunday & no one has to twist her arm But you sit there and boast of how you'll wreck her when you're through Ahhh there is no greater sin, than what you're tryin' to do She's so young & innocent she'd let a captured fly go free So if ya wanna conquer somethin' climb a mountain or swim a sea Bein' a man's important from a young boy's point of view Ahh there is no greater sin than what you're tryin to do Leave the pretty flower be dont pick her 'fore she's grown Find yourself a wildflower leave the other kind alone Temptation's way could maker her old before her time is due And there is no greater sin than what you're tryin' to do 1964 - Warner Chappell Music AK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:04:29 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Clusters > Clusters, "Darling Can't You Tell" (with Arlene Smith on > duet lead vocal; Tee Gee, 1958) -- simply the best uptempo > doo-wop I've ever heard. A cha-cha with a flute counter-melody, > good lyrics, good singin', GREAT bass singer. 45 years later it > still nails me. You've got a witness here! A great record but I think your year listing is off. I'd swear it is was about 1962...... Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:07:24 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: spine-shiver songs spine-shiverers... The ending of There's A Moon Out Tonight (Capris) still gets me good!! Austin R. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:18:33 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Billy Ocean Mark Frumento: > In 1975, Ben Findon co-wrote and produced > "Love Really Hurts Without You," the first U.S. Top 40 hit > for Billy Ocean ... My favorite Billy Ocean record by far! Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:24:59 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind Scott Swanson wrote: > Jagger and Richards recorded a demo version of the song c. July 1964 > with the Andrew Oldham Orchestra backing them. (This is the version > which can be found on the Stones' "Metamorphosis" LP). Supposedly, > the same backing track was later used for Vashti's version, which was > released in May 1965. Phil Milstein: > Thanks, Scott (and Mike McKay), that answers my questions real well. > However I don't know what version of Metamorphosis you're referring to, > as it's not on my original-release LP. Perhaps the CD reissue? It's on the UK version only, Phil. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:25:51 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Steve Tudanger & the Four-Evers The S'pop Team: > Readers are recommended to avail themselves of two more Coke ad > demos freshly installed @ musica. Both were written and performed > by Ellie Greenwich, Mike Rashkow and Steve Tudanger: Al Kooper: > Wasn't Steve Tudanger in the Four-Evers on Smash & Constellation? > I loved that group! They covered one of my songs called "Stormy." Yes he was. Good group, good song, good record. As it's unlikely to turn up in stores on a CD any day soon, I've posted it to musica for all to hear. The 4 Evers "Stormy" (Constellation 151, 1965) - Written by Irwin Levine, Boob Brass & Al Kooper, Arranged & Conducted by Charlie Calello, and Produced by Al Kasha. Given the genius Calello's invovement, the 4 Seasons-alike sound should come as little surprise. Click here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Any thoughts on Steve Tudanger, Al? Rashkovsky tells us Steve's not in the best of health these days, alas. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:38:47 +0000 From: Wendy Flynn Subject: stroboscope Hey S'Poppers anyone know where I can buy a stroboscope online? It's a paper circular device you put on your turntable to make sure it's playing at the right speed. An English website was selling them a few years ago but I cant seem to find it now. Thanks! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:54:01 -0000 From: Peter Kearns Subject: Jeff Lynne/Mike McKay Mike McKay wrote: > Also for the record, I think the whole subject of Jeff Lynne > started here when I mentioned that there were some objections > to his drum sound on "Free as a Bird." In fact I think it's me that must take the credit/honours/blame long before that. A little monster I wrought and perhaps it strayed a little out of the spectropop sphere. But interesting discussion nevertheless. :-) Peter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:11:14 -0000 From: John Sellards Subject: Re: Elvis Sun Records master tapes Steveo: > John, I would suggest to you that all that echo and was added > in on the board as it was recorded. The fuzz was probably just > the distortion of Sam's recording equipment at the time. I've never heard an original Sun record of the song, but the RCA dog-on-top 45 from the 50s seems to have less reverb than all the CDs. I'm not talking about the Sun slapback echo, but reverb. But maybe you're right; the other songs on that tape are Harbor Lights and I Love You Because, and they've never sounded that great either. John Sellards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:53:35 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Planet Rock Dr.Mark > Also noted is that the flip side of "Short Shorts" was called > "Planet Rock". Seems like an awfully forward-thinking title for > the late '50s. What kind of a song was that? ("Planet Rock" was > later the title of #48 rap hit for Afrika Bambaata in 1982.) > And checking my bubblegum notes, I have a question mark if > Jeff Barry was ever involved with The Royal Teens? Planet Rock was a typical late 50's sax instrumental in the mode of Rudy's Rock by Bill Haley & The Comets. It's a great track and I loved playing it in the band. The Royal Teens were Jersey-ite Bob Gaudio's baby. He was always involved in the songwriting, played piano and later, of course, was the driving founder of the 4 Seasons writing most of their hits, or finding other writers who did. From my vantage point, Jeff Barry was "nowhere to be seen in the land of a Royal Teen..." AK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:20:33 -0800 From: Tony Waitekus Subject: vocals versions of instrumentals The Electric Indian had a hit with the instumental Kemosabe. I have a vocal version by Len Barry. The music track of that song is the exact same track that became the Electric Indian hit. Tony Waitekus -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:08:53 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Gary Lewis / John West Re: Gary Lewis / John West Yes, it was the studio cats who played on the records. Gary sang most of the vocals, altho if you listen VERY closely to some of the stereo mixes, youll hear Ron Hinclins voice coming thru as the "guide" track for Gary. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: ACJ Subject: Re: Instrumental vocals Mikey: I not only know about the vocal "Walk, Don't Run", I have an old promo 45 of it, sung by Tommy Leonetti. And while we're on the subject, howzabout "Magic Star," the vocal "Telstar"? I have a version by country singer Margie Singleton (on Mercury, naturally, since she was Mrs. Shelby S.). ACJ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:47:24 -0000 From: Robert R. Radil Subject: Re: "I Think We're Alone Now" sdrawkcaB :eR Me: > This is going a little off your topic but "Mirage" by > Tommy James & The Shondells is based on "I Think We're > Alone Now" played backwards. Glenn: > Myth. Total myth. Me: > Myth? > Give me a few days to locate the 2 songs. I'll then reverse > "I Think We're Alone Now", attach it to "Mirage" in an MP3 > for all to hear. Found. Done. Posted to Musica. Enjoy... :) Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Taber Subject: Re: Biggest record label blunders! I have a copy, and have seen two others, of "It Was I" as being by "Skip and Slip", and numerous Thunderbird 45s of "Say You Love Me" by the Rogues are printed on the label as "The Rouges". An acquaintance in his youth bought a Beatles solo LP, but brought it back and exchanged it, because one side played a different solo Beatle LP, I believe that hadn't even been released yet! The same kid at my urging checked his cutout copy of a certain Beatles LP, and sure enough it had a Butcher cover underneath. He wouldn't sell it to me, but soon traded it to a man a few towns over, who went on to write many Beatle related books, and gave the young man, after promising the world, the equivalent of a palm full of spit for it! Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:01:32 -0000 From: Ian Slater Subject: Rag Dolls Photo On Wednesday 21 January, Bibi LaRed asked: > Does ANYONE have a pic(s) on the Rag Dolls? > I've always been curious ... Be curious no more, I've uploaded one to Photos area of this site. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/photos Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:45:00 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Patricia Ann Michaels - Tar And Cement Joining relatively well-known renditions by Caroline Munro and Verdelle Smith, now playing at musica is a newly-discovered third version of Vance & Pockriss's "Tar And Cement," by Patricia Ann Michaels. Michaels's take was released c.1972 by the Hollywood-based Command Performance label. Although CP had already released a Donnie Elbert single and had one by Johnny Otis waiting in the wings, it would not be long before the label lapsed into the tawdry morass of the song-poem assembly line. In this latter incarnation CP has become best known for The Music Magicians' unforgettable "Convertibles And Headbands." The jury is still out on whether Patricia Ann Michaels is the same singer as Patty Michaels, who was responsible for: Mrs. Johnny/They're Dancing Now (Columbia 43270, 1965) Born A Woman/Something Happens (Deep Inside Me) (Epic 10034, 1966) I Prayed For A Boy (Like You)/Lavender Girl (Epic 10116, 1967) The record comes from the collection of Michael Greenberg, who has given me permission to post it to musica. Enjoy, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:17:37 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: Label Blunders Denny wrote: > Anyone else have any other [label] blunders to > add? Let's hear from ya! ACJ: > I have a single on the Ardent label by its most > famous act, the early-70s cult band Big Star. The > label says the songs are "Don't Lie To Me" b/w > "Watch the Sunrise." Well, on my copy, the B-side > in the grooves is indeed "Watch the Sunrise," but > the song in the grooves on the A-side is "Thirteen," > a different track from their first album. And from > what I hear, other "combinations" were put out as > well! Andru, The old now defunct label ABC-Paramount in the late 50's often got the labels on the the 45's reversed. I suppose this was due to the pressing plant, but maybe the workers got dizzy looking at that "Sqiggly-Q" on the label that was supposed to represent the audio spectrum! lol Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:19:45 EST From: Ed Rambeau Subject: Re: Norma Tanega Mac Joseph: > The last I heard, Norma was living out in Claremont California, > where she paints. From what I know, after "Walkin my Cat" > (which is still one of my all-time favs), she went to Europe > for a while. Thanks for the info, Mac. Ed Rambeau -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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