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Spectropop - Digest Number 1284



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There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Gary Lewis / John West
           From: steveo 
      2. Thoughts on rarity; Buttless Chaps; more spine-shivers; and more notes
           From: Country Paul 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:03:52 -0800 (PST) From: steveo Subject: Re: Gary Lewis / John West Bibi La Red: > 3) COMMENT: Wouldn't you know it! GARY LEWIS & THE PLAYBOYS WERE > ALWAYS MY FAVE 60'S AMERICAN GROUP. KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM ... > OR so I thought ... I never knew the second wave of the PLAYBOYS > included a guitarist who would have as a daughter my fave (and > prettiest) actress ... (Tripplehorn) ... Silly me... Bibi, On Gary Lewis..I;ve always wondered about that "cordovox" accordion/organ played by the mysterious John West. John has totally dropped out of the limelite and now lives in Oklahoma, perhaps playing in a country band at times, as does Tommy Tripplehorn who lives in Tulsa. All attempts at contacting John have failed. I'm wondering about the involvement of John West on the recordings. I hear that it was studio musicians that played on the records, not the group. Steveo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:51:19 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Thoughts on rarity; Buttless Chaps; more spine-shivers; and more notes Have I properly said "welcome" to Eddie Rambeau? Thanks to Mike Edwards, I got to meet and hang out with Eddie and his partner Bud Rehak at the Old Time Radio Convention in Newark, NJ, earlier this year. A true pair of gentlemen. Eddie, thanks for the great day - and the autograph! Glad you came aboard with S'pop. DJ Jimmy B: > The desire for rarity comes more I think from overexposure > to the everyday than a desire for rarity for its own sake, > although a bit of that pathology creeps into my searches on > occasion. Rarity implies to me unheard and unknown and when > it comes to picking up oldies, since I've heard so much during > my 55 years, I need something 'new' and at this stage of the > game that means rare practically by definition. Amen, JB - you crystalized my feelings exactly. Particularly, I was on the radio and so was already burned out on stuff other people were just discovering. (No one listens to a DJ's show the way s/he does.) My desire for "rarity" was also fueled by the fact that, as a Music Director, I pretty much got to hear *everything*, the great, the gawdawful, the stuff that I knew was worthy of attention if not a mass smash hit, and in particular the cool stuff that should have been a smash that we tried to break anyway. While the "top 40" stations I worked for may not have been the biggest in town, we usually played the biggest playlists and were the most interesting. When freeform progressive radio came along, I tried to integrate the most interesting pop music that worked with the album rock. That's how I know a lot of this material - bubblegum was, of course, out, but we were mixing in things like Sandy Salisbury's "Come Softly" with our spacier sets, for just one example; or segueing Tommy Roe's "It's Now Winter's Day" with the Moody Blues "Nights In White Satin" (before it became all beat up as an overplayed hit). Despite being into progressive "album rock," most long jams were really quite tedious to me as a listener, and probably more fun for the musicians playing them. I'd rather have been hearing a well-written- produced and -performed song that meant something besides a sonic ego trip - or even a record with some commanding element(s) good enough to "forgive" whatever was lacking in the rest of it (the "inept element" discussion we've been having). There were exceptions re: the jams, of course; I'll avoid examples lest I not include, or worse, dump on someone's favorites. Perhaps my "musical order" evolves from starting out with classical, coming into rock through singles - primarily doowop and pop - then coming to album rock later. However I came to where I am, I'll still listening to anything interesting in any genre, but I'm finding I have less and less tolerance to stuff I'm already tired of. Having said that, it's great to find "new oldies" I haven't heard before (S'pop's forte), and to hear things I know with new ears thanks to information from expert students of the field and especially from our first person participants (S'pop's other forte). I enjoy our participants' opinions, but the facts that emerge here are priceless; that they're usually accurate makes detailed and consistant reading and participation so rewarding. As Mike in NZ quoted Hugh of St. Victor, "Learn everything, a narrow education displeases." This didn't start out to be a major "think piece"; hope I haven't bored anyone. On a related topic, Larry Lapka wrote, re: collectors: > I think most men try not to give up their childhood > passions, and I still have my comic book collection > as well as my record collection....Women also have a > disease called throwawayitis. If it isn't properly > in place, it is in the garbage. I had a box full of original TV Guides, 1956-58, almost complete. My mother, a wonderful person otherwise, took it upon herself to toss them when I went away to college. Unlike Larry's comic books, those TV Guides stayed gone. How cool it would be to have them now - plus they'd be worth a major fortune! Re: completists - I think I have almost everything non-bootleg by the Teddy Bears. Late flash: Out of our era, but of possible interest: a Canadian Band, The Buttless Chaps (someone called them "Canada's best-named band") and the title track of their latest CD, "Love This Time." (There's a female vocal that comes in partway through.) The magic is in this track; you can hear it, full length, at http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=6037. Another Irwin-of-WFMU revelation (credit where due). Add these to the list of my recently discovered knockout instant faves: Nino & April's "Wings of Love" (sweet and lovely from beginning to end); Carol Connors' "My Baby Looks (But He Don't Touch)" (a find); and Judee Sill's magical "Lady-O" (shivers down the spine when the double tracked section kicks in - it's simply just beautiful until then). And Steveo mentions Don Costa - on the 45, "Theme from 'The Misfits,'" there's a honkin' tenor sax riff just before the big coda that is a chunk of raw soul amidst the lush minor orchestral theme. It hits like a lightning bolt. Worth hearing if you haven't. It's always a spine-shiverer for me - and why I bought the record. Peter Kearns, re: Jon Brion: > Check him out: http://www.jonbrion.com Very McCartney-esque. The Cheap Trick cover ("Voices") is particularly nice. Dave Beard, re: Jeff Lynne: > Lynne does his best work when he works within a concept > and usually when its someone else's music. Let's not forget The Traveling Wilburys, two of our more-played older albums when my wife's home. (I like them too - Orbison's "You're Not Alone" in particular. Another spine-chiller.) Changes to hits: The Clovers' "Love Potion #9" originally sang the whole song about "#9," but a re-recording has the last verse saying, "It felt so good I'm going back again / I wonder what'll happen with Love Potion #10.) Cute, I guess, but not the original. Phil Milstein, re: Chuck Berry: > this song makes me so proud to be American -- the > land of cheeseburgers and jukeboxes! (Alas, no more > drive-ins). I forget its name, but at the corner of routes 206 and 15 in Lafayette, NJ, there's an authentic repro drive in, complete with car cruise-in's during the summer. No waitresses on roller skates, however, but there is a (minor league) baseball park across the road. Also, not a drive-in but an "authentic" 50's diner: the 5 & Diner on North 16th Street in Phoenix, Arizona. Trouble is, the menu is printed in 2004 prices! :-) Or come to New Jersey, and find a real diner every coupla miles. Typo Gremlin attacks! I'd written on 1/15/04: > Paul Bryant quotes allegedly good and bad lines from "Magic > Moments", originally by Perry Como and later sure (very credible > version, I might add). Oops - "sure" was Erasure. "Era" got erased. Someone probably caught this already. I'd hope! Maybe I've even taken flak for my strange taste! :-) That's it for this one ("Oh no - I've said enough" --Michael Stipe), Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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