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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Austin Roberts - Upbeat TV show.
           From: Laura 
      2. Re: Musica probs
           From: Rat Pfink 
      3. I'm Brian, fly Me
           From: Steve Harvey 
      4. Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC
           From: Joe Nelson 
      5. Re:  Hello Muddah
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      6. Songs' Running Times (60's/70's versus now)
           From: Laura 
      7. Re: Chris White/Louis Phillipe/Peter Lacey
           From: Rob Stride 
      8. Re: Iveys on CD
           From: Rob Stride 
      9. Re: I Can't Keep From Crying Sometimes
           From: Al Kooper 
     10. Re: Concrete and Clay + Bronx
           From: plev20032003 
     11. Re: This Diamond Ring
           From: Al Kopper 
     12. Re: Welcome Paul Levinson
           From: Paul Levinson 
     13. Re: Welcome/Joe's Pub
           From: Al Kooper 
     14. RE: Stupid songs...and stupider still..
           From: Denis Gagnon 
     15. Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC/ Zal Yanovsky!
           From: C Ponti 
     16. Grapefruit
           From: markt439 
     17. "Mary In The Morning"
           From: Michael Edwards 
     18. Lloyd Thaxton show tapes
           From: markt439 
     19. Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC :eR
           From: Robert R. Radil 
     20. Re: Concrete & Clay
           From: Robert R. Radil 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:06:22 -0000 From: Laura Subject: Re: Austin Roberts - Upbeat TV show. Austin Roberts wrote: > I was sitting on some gym stand seats when my time came to tape. > Someone had worked out some choreography for this pretty girl > to be dancing around me while I sat on a stool and lipsanc > (weird word) the song. Then I was supposed to stand up near > the end and dance with her (remember it was mid 1968). OK, I > sat on the stool and the song started and the girl danced > and I lipsanc. When it was time for me to dance, I stood up > and the friggin' stool stood up with me at an almost 45 degree > angle. I had sat on a large glob of bubblegum in the stands > before I went on (you'd think a grown man of 22 would know > if he'd sat on that much bubblegum that clung to his pants). Hi Austin, Great story! That could be me writing that ... no, I never had that EXACT situation, but it's amazing how many times I've come up short when trying to impress people. You know, fly unzipped or a piece of broccoli between my teeth, stuff like that. Happens all the time ... although not usually with cameras running! Thanks for sharing. Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:59:10 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Musica probs Jon Adelson wrote: > I know someone has previously posted regarding this, but I have to > echo (as it were) that I have chronic problems downloading from > Musica. (I have other chronic problems too, but they're off-topic :-)) Yahoo Groups imposes a limit on how many files, depending on size, you can download at a given time. Usually if you try to download again in 30-60 minutes you can grab a couple more before receiving the error message again. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:38:53 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: I'm Brian, fly Me The Brian plane story took place in 1964. I think it was a joke that Brian made about "having lots of fun on tour" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) to his fiance, Marilyn, that triggered the nervous breakdown. Marilyn didn't let the comment shake her and said something to the effect that she too was going to have lots of fun at home. His joke backfired and Brian caved in, but did fly onto the starting location of the tour. I think his mom had to fly out to get him and bring him home. Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:40:33 -0500 From: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC Previously: >Pow Wow -- 1919 Fruitgum Co. -- Buddah 91 (backwards ode to Howdy >Doody) This was released forwards on Bell single, but I can't remember the title or artist. Joe Nelson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:49:01 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Hello Muddah Jerry Osborne wrote: > It may be something I can write about in the syndicated "Mr. Music" > newspaper feature. Here's the online edition: > http://www.jerryosborne.com/mr.music.htm Hey now, (as Hank Kingsley might say), I would like to welcome The Man himself, Mr. Jerry Osborne to S'Pop. His reputation as an expert on music and records is well known and well documented. We have added another icon and name brand personality to the membership list. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:44:25 -0000 From: Laura Subject: Songs' Running Times (60's/70's versus now) Hi, fellow Spectropoppers, Since we have so many composers, producers, and performers as members of the discussion group, I thought I'd pose a question I brought up to Mike Rashkow off-list. Most records in the 60's and 70's were limited to about two and a half minutes in length, on average, probably for a variety of reasons -- the physical size of a 45, more attractive to radio program directors, etc. etc. There were exceptions, like "Hey Jude," "Alice's Restaurant," "American Pie" and a few others I refer to as deejay bathroom break songs. Then the eighties came, and songs began getting longer, and still longer in the nineties, and over the years the technology radio stations used to bring music to the airwaves progressed from records to carts to CDs. Now that we've arrived in the new milennium, the songs of today are literally twice as long as the hits were when I was growing up. (I can't resist adding, though, who the heck wants to hear these longer songs?) Anyway, I digress. For those of you who worked in the music business during the 60's and 70's is, did having a two- or three-minute limitation on the running time of a record intended for mass production and hopefully destined for the national Top Forty put a damper on your creativity? Or was the knowledge that you had to keep the length of songs to a given running time actually helpful to you, because it "forced" you to work within certain guidelines and parameters and assisted in the creative process? I'm not in the music business, but I am a writer, and I can say from personal experience that it's a heck of a lot easier for me to write when I don't have a limitation on the number of words I can use -- I can just go with the creative flow. However, if you're writing for a periodical, you often do have to go by a predetermined word count, and editing can be painful! Did any of you have to do any painful editing of your musical creations? What about the rest of you? Do you wish the cool songs from the 60s and 70s had had longer running times? Thanks, Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:47:52 -0000 From: Rob Stride Subject: Re: Chris White/Louis Phillipe/Peter Lacey Mark Frumento wrote: > I'm sorry to say that I just don't put Peter Lacey in the same > category as Chris White, Chris Rainbow or Jeff Foskett (as mentioned > by Richard). I've tried to listen but can't get past the singing. I must Agree with Mark Peter Lacy has all the sounds but doesn't have the Harmonies, Structures, Voice or songs of the others mentioned. Regards Rob Stride -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:48:46 -0000 From: Rob Stride Subject: Re: Iveys on CD Stewart Mason wrote: > Country Paul: The Iveys' MAYBE TOMORROW was reissued > on CD by Apple in 1994. Like the other non-Beatles > Apple CDs, it was in print for about 15 minutes and is > basically impossible to find today. The Magic Christian Music album, was the Iveys Rob Stride -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 21:57:59 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: I Can't Keep From Crying Sometimes Dan Hughes wrote > Al, sorry this is a repeat for you; wanted to tell the rest of the group: > > My first exposure to Al Kooper was the WHAT'S SHAKIN' album, with his > slow, almost dirge-like rendition of I Can't Keep From Crying Sometimes. > I loved it. Then a couple of years later, I heard the same song on the > Blues Project PROJECTIONS album. My hair did actually stand on end -- I > swear it did -- a few bars into the song, when I realized it was the same > song from WHAT'S SHAKIN'. I literally vibrated in delight! (And I'm > usually not that weird -- honest). > > What an education to hear these two diametrically different versions of > the same song! Kinda like listening to Mr. Tambourine Man, first by Dylan > and then by the Byrds. Same great song, yet at the same time two > entirely different songs. But with Kooper, it was the SAME ARTIST! To > me, this is absolute genius. > > Thanks again, Al. Ahhhh....you're missing the end of the trilogy Try the CD "Rare & Well Done" and hear The Blues Project do yet ANOTHER arrangement of the same song ( I bore easily???) That CD is under my own name Thanks for enjoying the music. It really means a lot! Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:58:56 -0000 From: plev20032003 Subject: Re: Concrete and Clay + Bronx Ed Rambeau wrote: > In the Bronx, huh? Well, then you must have grown up > with the Unit 4 + 2's version because I didn't get much > air play in NY. A cappella, no less. I've often sung it > a cappella myself because sometimes when I was on the > road the bands were so bad I decided to sing it without them. Yeah, I guess it was Unit 4 + 2. We even scatted that great lead guitar in the break... We did most of this singing, by the way, on the corner of Allerton Avenue and White Plains Road -- the same Allerton Avenue that, 20+ years later, became known as one of the birthplaces of hip-hop. There was something uniquely musical about the Bronx in those days (maybe still is). Around the time we (The New Outlook, later The Other Voices) were singing "Concrete and Clay" on the corner, we also went to Orchard Beach one afternoon, and were standing on the sand singing "Cottonfields" (the Highwaymen song). Some guy walks over and joins in, and what a voice -- he sounded just like the one of the Highwaymen. We ask him if he'd like to join our group more permamently. He just smiles and says, well, I'm actually already in a group.... The Highwaymen. All best, Paul www.sff.net/people/paullevinson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:11:24 EST From: Al Kopper Subject: Re: This Diamond Ring Alan Gordon wrote: > Is there a version of "This Diamond Ring" performed in its original R & B > style? Alan Gordon, you magician, you I was a big fan of your composing for that group. (that was YOU, I hope) The version of This Diamond Ring on myalbum "Rare & Well Done" on SONY-Legacy is as close an approximation as can be made to the original concept of that song. It is also on the album Act Like Nothing's Wrong," but the mastering is better on R&WD. Lovely to hear from you and thanks so much for your kind words Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:11:52 -0000 From: Paul Levinson Subject: Re: Welcome Paul Levinson Mike Rashkow wrote: > Since I recruited Paul--first to Pineywood Productions and now to > Spectropop, thirty-three years or so later, I'd like to be the first > to welcome him to the greatest little music place anywhere in cyber > space. Thanks, Mike -- amazing the way the Web just evaporates the years. All best, Paul www.sff.net/people/paullevinson -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:19:41 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Re: Welcome/Joe's Pub Artie Wayne wrote: > Al.........How ya' doin'? I've been a fan of your music for a long time. > and I'm proud to have witnessed some of your accomplishments > early in your career. I remember when I ran into you up at Liberty > Records in N.Y., where I was an artist and you were there to pick > up the first commercial copy of "This Diamond Ring" by Gary Lewis > and the Playboys. You shared your cab with me back to 1650 B'way, > where you played it for me. I remember saying ,"It was one of the > most obvious number one records I'd ever heard!!" > > A few years later, I remember running into you outside of the Ed Sullivan > Theater. You were so excited about a new group you put together. > You took me to a little rehearsal studio and let me hear Blood, Sweat > and Tears for the first time!! Every time I run into you something eventful > seems to happen, like the time, while we were catching up on old > times in front of the Cafe Au Go Go and you introduced me to Bob Dylan. > > Now thirty years later we run into each other again, this time on > Spectropop, the best music site on the net .... and your presence has > made it even better!! Artie, I see your name here and I smile I think I knew that guy! Great to "speak" with you again We've been around the track a few times, haven't we? I'm still kickin' - gonna be 60 on feb 5 If you're in NYC, come to Joe's Pub in the Village I'm playin' 2 shows that night to prevent anyone from throwin' me a surprise party Would love ta see ya For that matter any Spectropoppers are welcome as well! See www.alkooper.com under LIVE Keep in touch, Artie Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:22:15 -0500 From: Denis Gagnon Subject: RE: Stupid songs...and stupider still.. Phil Hall wrote: > What's the most nonsensical song you've ever heard, > other than something like "Ne Ne Na Na Na Na Nu Nu"? > I'll start it off by nominating "Toom Toom (Is A Little Boy)" > by Marie Applebee. What about "The crusher" by the Novas ? I always thought I was one of a few hundreds that bought this 45. Denis -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:23:49 -0000 From: C Ponti Subject: Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC/ Zal Yanovsky! lightning_15228 wrote: > I am in the process of making a compilation (for my own use, of course) > of those neat backwards B-sides of hit singles that were deliberately > pressed to prevent double-side hit exposures. Lightning! Your quest is very obviously the product of a troubled mind. No one had a better appreciation of troubled minds than the brilliant, winning, and sadly, late Zal Yanovsky of the Lovin' Spoonful. When he was no longer with the band his album, ALIVE AND WELL IN ARGENTINA featured the single, "As Long As You're Here". The B-side was...as mentioned, "Ereh Er'ouy Sa Gnol Sa", which was the same track backwards. What a wonderful, innovative guitarist and a delightful, mischievous human being he was..... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:24:48 -0000 From: markt439 Subject: Grapefruit Sorry to jump on this topic so late but I was away for 2 weeks. Both LPs were out on CD in the 90s. I bought the first which is great and passed on the second which is terrible. Love to know what happened and why they changed their sound so drastically. We're not talking about a small dropoff in quality, this was from great to unlistenable. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:46:09 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: "Mary In The Morning" Artie Wayne writes (re: "Mary In The Morning"): > If I were you I'd contact your publisher and ask him to get a copy to > country artists like Alan Jackson or Trace Adkins....I can see them > fighting over who should do it first!! Terrific idea. I have just put away my copy of Alan Jackson's "A Holly Jolly Christmas"; a recording that shows just how comfortable Alan is when singing a pop oldie (original by Burl Ives). I'm sure he could do an equally great job with "Mary In The Morning". Let's hope it happens. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:29:30 -0000 From: markt439 Subject: Lloyd Thaxton show tapes I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I have it from a reliable source that of the 800 or so shows that were done there are only about 30 tapes that still exist. The rest were given away to a college for use by their broadcast students decades ago. The tapes that are still around were not kept by selection as to if they had great guests or not but as usually happens they just happen by chance to be what got saved. Still 30 is better than nothing and its still way more than was saved on 2-inch tape of any other sixties rock shows, AB included. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:48:39 -0000 From: Robert R. Radil Subject: Re: sediS-B sdrawkcaB fo noitalipmoC :eR lightning_15228 wrote: > I am in the process of making a compilation (for my own use, of course) > of those neat backwards B-sides of hit singles that were deliberately > pressed to prevent double-side hit exposures. This is going a little off your topic but "Mirage" by Tommy James & The Shondells is based on "I Think We're Alone Now" played backwards. Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 04:09:00 -0000 From: Robert R. Radil Subject: Re: Concrete & Clay Ed Rambeau wrote: > It's interesting that depending on where you lived in the country as > to whether or not you grew up with my version or the Unit 4 + 2's > version of "Concrete and Clay". Some cities played only my version, > others played theirs. As far as original songs go...it's always the > version you grew up with that becomes your favorite. Anyone who grew > up listening to mine doesn't take a liking to the Unit 4 + 2's > version and vice versa. It's just the nature of the beast. Ed, Just as an FYI - In Hartford, CT WPOP played your version where it went top 10 and WDRC played Unit 4+2 where it went to #1. At that time I was a WPOP listener so I heard your version more. Bob Radil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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