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Spectropop - Digest Number 1253



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Al Kooper
           From: Eddy 
      2. Re: Alvin Robinson
           From: Richard Williams 
      3. Re: Jeff Lynne
           From: Mark Frumento 
      4. Re: Jeff Lynne
           From: Paul Bryant 
      5. Re: non-male Vinyl Junkies
           From: Paul Bryant 
      6. Re: THE Al Kooper?
           From: Mac Joseph 
      7. Re: ELO
           From: Mark Frumento 
      8. Re: Alvin Robinson / What is soul?
           From: Clay Stabler 
      9. Re: Artie Wayne; Vance-Pockriss
           From: Artie Wayne 
     10. answer songs
           From: Artie Wayne 
     11. Re: Jaynetts & other sing-a-long flipsides
           From: Andres Jurak 
     12. Al Kooper/Pat Lundy
           From: Matthew Kaplan 
     13. Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody
           From: Ian Slater 
     14. Questions for Al
           From: Mac Joseph 
     15. Re: Ben E. King - What is soul?
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     16. Randy VanWarmer: rest in peace.
           From: Clark Besch 
     17. Re: Inept / Mistakes
           From: C. Ponti 
     18. Re: Scooby-Doo
           From: Austin Roberts 
     19. Re: Bobby Pedrick
           From: Austin Roberts 
     20. Re: Gene Hughes
           From: Austin Roberts 
     21. Re: Fruitgum Co.
           From: Austin Roberts 
     22. Re: Scooby Doo / Gary & Larry / Tuesday's Children
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     23. sister rosetta tharpe
           From: wendy flynn 
     24. Thanks
           From: Artie Butler 
     25. Re: Scooby Doo
           From: Austin Roberts 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:23:23 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Al Kooper Hi Al, Allow me to join the welcoming committee here. Great to have you aboard! I have always had a keen interest in your various production and guest sessions. So besides a gazillion other questions, I have always wondered why you didn't produce the Tubes' second album. I think the first one is absolutely magnificent and put the band on the map from the first note. What happened? And btw, for those that like to keep up to speed... this month's Relix magazine has an interview with Al on http://www.relix.com/kooper Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:38:19 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re: Alvin Robinson Mick Patrick wrote: > "The US release of Alvin Robinson's "Fever" clearly indicates > that it was a Leiber-Stoller Production, Arranged by Mike Stoller. > Magnificent record, by the way. Although the Little Willie John > and Peggy Lee versions take some beating." They do, and it does. Thanks for the info, Mick. I still want to know who played on it, though, and I haven't discounted a possible New Orleans connection, via Joe Jones. It doesn't sound like a Stoller chart to me. Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:16:25 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne I wrote: > He may not technically be a great producer Peter wrote: > Not technically great? How on earth did you come > to this conclusion? Ok now, hold on... I didn't arrive at that sentence scientifically. However poorly I worded it I was trying to defend him at his level of competence. He's a good producer (in my opinion he did his best work with his own band but that's just my preference) but I don't know if he's really the innovator it takes to be great....however much you and I love his work. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:28:27 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne Mark Frumento wrote: > I for one am glad to read posts in defense of Jeff Lynne. Between 1967 and 1973 I always thought Jeff Lynne was trying to write all the songs Paul McCartney never got round to. The two fab Idle Race albums are stuffed with McCartney songs. This continued through the Move period and into early ELO (e.g. "Mr Radio"). After that I lost the plot with Jeff. But I caught up with Armchair Theatre, and on that one the drum sound ain't just fat, it's obese. By the way, I found a nice li'l Idle Race boot - I never knew such a thing existed, I thought I was the world's only Idle Race fan - containing all their BBC sessions & some outtakes, and it came to me from Minnesota, of all places. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:33:36 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: non-male Vinyl Junkies Art Longmire: > One statement made in the text really caught my eye > --someone was quoted as saying that there are no > female record collectors! There's got to be some > somewhere, although I personally don't know any ..." Thorny question - in a few music related discussion groups I participated in there are almost no female participants - what's the proportion in this group? Tiny? I thought so! And again, how many females have you known who collect music at all? It seems to be a boy thing, but I don't understand why as this seems to apply to all types of music. My tentative theory is that "collecting music" falls into the larger category of "collecting", and females are not big collectors of anything. You may apply crude Darwinisn to this theory or not, as you see fit. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mac Joseph Subject: Re: THE Al Kooper? Hello, Fellow Spectropoppers; I would like to second that, on what Scott wrote. It is truly exciting to have someone of Al Koopers stature on board! Who that was around in the 60's didn't know who the Blues Project was! They sure don't make bands like that anymore. Welcome, Al!!!! Mac Joseph -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:00:20 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: ELO John Berg wrote: > I will be so bold as to say that I like ELO! So there! > OK, I mostly like their early stuff as they were evolving > from The Move, who I adore. Hey, come right out and say it!!! For my part I like every ELO record except Secret Messages. Call me a sucker for sappy melodies, I don't care. I love Jeff Lynne's songs from the Idle Race to Zoom. If that ousts me from the serious music society then so be it. :>)) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:48:51 -0000 From: Clay Stabler Subject: Re: Alvin Robinson / What is soul? Richard Williams wrote: > ... "What is Soul": so popular > was Ben E.King's record in UK discotheques that it became the > title track of a succesful Atlantic budget-price compilation. Reminds me of another budget UK soul comp series titled "This is Soul" put out by Fourstar. Track list below is from Volume 2 and includes Ben E. King and other soul stalwarts. Nice selection but many are cover versions by other soul artists. And what are the Kingsmen doing in there? 1. Up On The Roof -- The Drifters 2. I (Who Have Nothing) -- Ben E. King 3. Louie, Louie -- The Kingsmen 4. It's The Same Old Song -- Martha Reeves 5. Try A Little Tenderness -- Percy Sledge 6. Slip Away -- Clarence Carter 7. Respect -- Sam and Dave 8. It's Just A Matter Of Time -- Brook Brenton 9. Band of Gold -- Mel Carter 10. On Broadway -- The Drifters 11. Feelings -- Dobie Gray 12. Nowhere To Run -- Martha Reeves 13. How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) -- Sam and Dave 14. You Little Trustmaker -- The Tymes Clay Stabler -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:55:35 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Artie Wayne; Vance-Pockriss Mike.......How ya' doin'? During the late sixties, my partner Kelli Ross and I [Alouette productions] ran Peter Udell and Gary Geld's publishing companies. Although I'd like to take credit for getting "Hurting Each Other" to the Carpenters, it probably was brought to their attention by Al Stanton, head of A+Ms A+R dept. who'd once worked for Kapp Records, where Ruby and the Romantics had recorded prior to releasing their version on A&M of this Jimmy Clanton original. Geld/Udell had some of the most coverable songs I ever worked with....they also were excellent producers, and in my opinion, cut some of the best records in Brian Hyland's career "Sealed With a Kiss", "Save your Heart for Me", [which my freind Ed Silvers, while at Scepter records, got Snuff Garrett to produce with Gary Lewis.] regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:04:53 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: answer songs I've been enjoying so many of the Spectropop posts that I almost forgot to add to the answer song list, "[I'll Meet you at] Midnight Joey" by Lorna Dune, which I co-wrote with Ben Raleigh which is the answer to, "[Meet me at] Midnight Mary" [Raleigh/Wayne] by Joey Powers. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:15:15 -0000 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Re: Jaynetts & other sing-a-long flipsides Michael Fishberg wrote: > Further to the Jaynetts' "Sally Go 'Round The Roses" - > the flip was just the backing track (with the girls faintly > heard). I think I've got another 7" on Tuff by another group > that has this poor value phenomenon. A. The Patty Cakes - I UNDERSTAND THEM (LOVE SONG TO BEATLES) B. the same instrumental Actually, the Patty Cakes and the Jaynetts were the same team of girls -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:26:58 EST From: Matthew Kaplan Subject: Al Kooper/Pat Lundy While we are all here praising Mr. Al Kooper, one of the things that I am amazed at is complete knowledge of his past endeavors...most musicians tend to forget their past either on purpose or as a result of years of hard living. A couple of years back I found a brilliant single by Pat Lundy called "It's Rainin' Outside" (Leopard Records 5009, 1963) and could not find out anything about it anywhere (I even asked about it on this list!). Just by luck I found an email address for Al Kooper, who had the writing credit on the single, and on the off chance I shot off an email to the man. Not only did he remember the single but also the lyrics and this is for a single that is 40 years old! By the way if there is anything else that Al is willing to say about this great slab'o'wax I would be happy to read about it and if you have not heard this single it is a massive stomper! So I want to say thank you again to Al Kooper for the info on the Pat Lundy single and welcome him to the world of Spectropop. Matthew Kaplan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:12:39 -0000 From: Ian Slater Subject: Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody Re: Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody Back in July during a discussion about the above artists, I speculated about whether they might have been the same person. They were NOT - I have received an off-site message from a reliable source, who does not wish to become involved in the discussion. The message where I made this speculation is archived at message 4 of Digest no. 524. Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mac Joseph Subject: Questions for Al previously: > would be interested to know if you were involved with > the Lewis session, and who chose to have the "Chordovox" > sound on the organ. Was John West involved? Al Kooper: > Believe East Coast me, I had nothing to do with that > West Coast session!! The arranger was early Leon Russell > so perhaps he was the organist . I believe Jim Keltner > played drums and Carl Radle played bass Al, If memory serves me right; didn't Leon Russell arrange and produce most of Gary Lewis' music (inbetween Spector sessions?) Mac Joseph -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:52:12 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Ben E. King - What is soul? Richard Williams writes: > Re Rashkovsky's meditations on "What is Soul": so popular > was Ben E.King's record in UK discotheques that it became the > title track of a succesful Atlantic budget-price compilation. There you have it. To restate Phil S's trade ad re: River Deep - Mountain High: BENEDICT ARNOLD WAS RIGHT. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:40:39 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Randy VanWarmer: rest in peace. I was just riding home from work and the news said Randy VanWarmer died at age 48 of Leukemia. What a sad thing. I'm only a year younger myself! I always loved his '79 giant, "Just When I Needed You Most" (which I am listening to at the moment). I would equate it to Austin Roberts' "Something's Wrong With Me" in terms of a sad tale done excellently. His vocal treatment reminds me of Henry Gross. The song came to mind recently when I heard the (then) new #1 country record, Gary Allen's "Tough Little Boys". If you were like me the first time you heard that song, you said "Hey, this songs steals completely from Randy VanWarmer's classic". Take a listen if you have access and see if you don't agree. I have a few of his followup singles and his "Gotta Get Out of Here" had many spins on my turntable in 79 and 80. Randy did other tunes for artists they listed in the news, so I'm glad he more of a legacy too. I will always remember his one hit tho with great appreciation. Thanks, Randy. Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:44:41 -0000 From: C. Ponti Subject: Re: Inept / Mistakes Albabe, You've hit on what bothers me about most recordings being done now. There is no longer that organic sound. Production technique has so evolved that we can take out anything imperfect, so you have slightly humanized virtual tracks and faultlessly recorded real instruments and voices, all digitally recorded with none of the warm sound of analog, and the result makes you wish for an old record through your first stereo system. I commented on my affection for some of the fallible sounds on "I Can't Find The Time To Tell You", from (Orpheus). Some of the coolest cuts from way back would now be considered "train wrecks" in the studio. The instruments would be digitally tuned, the vocal takes comped to perfection, (and to death), and the result would have little soul.... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:43:13 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Scooby-Doo Bob Rashkow: > I have a soft spot in my heart for TV themes, including certain > animated shows pre-1976 or so. Who recorded the Scooby-Doo theme > song, notable particularly for the tune--Austin Roberts did you > work at all on this? Was it just Hanna-Barbera studio singers-- > and who penned it? It is fast becoming an early 7Ts relic. Hey Bobster, I've been travelling back and forth to Nashville so much lately that I don't remember if I answered your question about Scooby Doo, but the answer is yes. I sang the leads on the first songs done including the theme. They still keep popping up on the cartoon network. Suits me fine. It was a great project to be part of. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:00:15 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Bobby Pedrick As far as I know my old buddy Bobby (Robert John) still lives in LA. If anyone knows more please write in. I'd love to track him down. Best, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:17:51 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Gene Hughes Anthony James: > Austin, Thank you for taking the time to e-mail me about Gene > Hughes. I never had the chance to work with him, but from what > I have been told about him he is a great guy. Anthony, Gene is a very unassuming (especially to have the voice he does) guy. I just hope he is doing better. It'll be great to see him again. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:21 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Fruitgum Co. Clark Besch: > Austin, was the Fruitgum Company song "Go Away"? It was one of > the last, 1970. Just curious. Clark, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Go Away, but that's what my mind does sometimes (Go away, I mean). I think it was something I wrote but it's been since 1968 or 69 I think. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:24:50 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Scooby Doo / Gary & Larry / Tuesday's Children "Garlic Bread" the soul instrumental by Gary & Larry is a big priority on my want list--if anybody knows where I can get a decent copy of this hot 45 please E-mail me off list, thanks! Austin Roberts, I can't seem to get the Scooby-Doo theme song out of my mind even though I was decidedly too old to appreciate the series itself. Again, great job. By the 3 of you. I don't recall any of the other tunes from the series, but I'd be willing to bet there's some kind of CD comp with some of them. Sammy Lowe arranged and conducted an interesting but totally unsuccessful soul recording on Columbia by "Tuesday's Children" called "I'll Be Back". Approximately 1967. I have a DJ copy and I think it's the cat's PJs. Does anybody on the group know anything about these gals--the lead singer was far from outstanding, although her voice along with Lowe's stirring arrangement make this one a winner in my book. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:23:21 +0000 From: wendy flynn Subject: sister rosetta tharpe dear s'poppers unfortunately i just dont pay attention often enough. back in november some members were discussing a famous 60s japanese pop composer/writer. can someone please give me the name again? i promise i will remember this time. also - can anyone recommend their favourite Sister Rosetta Tharpe lp - I'm not sure where to start with this formidable lady. thanks! wendy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:23:23 EST From: Artie Butler Subject: Thanks Hi Michel, I just wanted to thank you for your very kind words about some of my work in the past. When we made many of these records years ago, we never ever thought that they would be around all these years later. That's the beauty and power of music. You never know who it will touch or when or where. Again thanks for your kind words. Regards, Artie Butler -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:31:44 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Scooby Doo > Austin Roberts: Can you clear something up for me? Did you sing > the lead vocal of the original "Scooby-Doo" theme song, or just > do some of the session backing on the other music for the show? > I seem to have missed something after you showed up on the list. > If that WAS you, I can only say I love that song...very > Beatlesque. None of the followup "Scooby" themes compare...don't > get me started on Scrappy-Doo. Yes, I sang lead vocals on all of the first Scooby songs. I appreciate your asking. Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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