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Spectropop - Digest Number 1252

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Gene Radice - Bob Gallo
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      2. Re: the stereo/mono debate
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      3. Re: "Devil or Angel" Chart
           From: Bob 
      4. Re: Jeff Lynne on Free as a bird
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      5. Al Kooper, Christine Quaite, "What Am I Gonna Do With You--Hey Baby"
           From: Mark 
      6. Re: Mark Radice
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Ragin' Cajuns
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Re: Vinyl Junkies
           From: Stewart Mason 
      9. Re: The Buchanan Brothers
           From: Austin Roberts 
     10. Re: All our celebrity guests
           From: Artie Butler 
     11. Lloyd Thaxton DVD
           From: Ed B 
     12. Re: Buzz Cason
           From: Austin Roberts 
     13. Re: Attn all Lloyd Thaxton fans
           From: Phil Milstein 
     14. Re: Austin Roberts Interview - Arkade/Austin R. music
           From: Austin Roberts 
     15. Re: Austin Roberts Interview - Arkade/Austin R. music
           From: Austin Roberts 
     16. Re: the stereo/mono debate
           From: Mike McKay 
     17. Re: Jimmie Haskell / Louie Shelton / Clingers
           From: Austin Roberts 
     18. Re: The Buchanan Brothers/Cashmen/Morning Mist, etc etc
           From: Austin Roberts 
     19. Re: The Eighth Day / Artie Butler
           From: Michel Gignac 
     20. Re: Cymbal & Clinger
           From: Austin Roberts 
     21. Re: Al Kooper, Monkey Time & Golden Apples
           From: Howard 
     22. Welcome Al; Chuck Berry
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     23. The Butler did it - Ben E. King
           From: Mick Patrick 
     24. Questions for Al
           From: Al Kooper 
     25. Questions for Al
           From: Al Kooper 

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:45:18 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Gene Radice - Bob Gallo Dear Stephane, Thank you for your detailed and informative reply for information on Bob Gallo. It seems he did quite a bit of work. I am not familiar with any of it but based on the one record I have he had a great feel for Soul/R&B and could get it on the tape. I appreciate the time and effort to post this for me. I am hopeful of learning a little more about him personally as well as what he created. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:49:40 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: the stereo/mono debate Paul Bryant: > So you have to judge song by song. Some are better, > some not. With Pet Sounds, as the accompanying book > says, it's not done to replace the mono. I guess mono fanatics live with the fear that the mono mix they grew up on will be replaced by the stereo remix in future CD reissues. I just hate bad stereo remixes where the engineer attempts to create a "Modern" stereo mix. I still remember the Phil Collins sounding gated snare drum on the Byrds "Lady Friend" (on the deleted "Never Before" album on Murry Hill) that stuck out like a sore thumb. That said I would love to see Mark Linnet remix the tracks from the "Today" and "Summer Nights" era. He did a fine job remixing "Pet Sounds", IMHO. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:20:02 -0000 From: Bob Subject: Re: "Devil or Angel" Chart Steveo > The chart on "Devil or Angel" is a pop masterpiece! Steve, Indeed it is! I've posted a shot of the bass vocal chart from the session on the "Photos" section. The copyist was Jewell Grant. Thought you might like a closer look at Ernie's work! Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:30:36 -0500 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne on Free as a bird Mark Radice writes: > I'm 46 now, still writing > about 3 songs a week... Hiya, Mark (yet ANOTHER ONE?) 3 a week? Geeez, what kinda musical Viagra are YOU taking? About a dozen solid ones a year, that's all i can "come up" with. Mind you, I'm a year or two older than you, so I guess I have an excuse. Welcome to Spectropop. It doesn't get any cooler, except for, of course, the spiritually related Harmony Rock site "Harmony High", (worth a visit!). Keep rocking! Best, Mad Mark Wirtz P.S. What's all this dissing of good ol' Lynne? Come on, guys, the man is a tradition! Not to like him is like not liking Big Ben, or the Eiffel Tower. Might not be your favorite architectual cuppa tea, but kinda silly to dismiss 'em, don't ya think? m-m -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:57:19 GMT From: Mark Subject: Al Kooper, Christine Quaite, "What Am I Gonna Do With You--Hey Baby" First off, a BIG welcome to Mr. Al Kooper! I was just listening to my CD of "Al's Big Deal: Unclaimed Freight" at work the other day, as I was in the mood for it. I've admired your work for years, from the Blues Project to BS&T to the Super Session to your solo work and producing Lynyrd Skynyrd, and I also enjoyed your version of "Salmon Falls" on the Nilsson tribute CD "For the Love of Harry". And "Backstage Passes and Backstabbing Bastards" is one of the best music memoirs I've ever read! "What is Soul"--isn't that on the Ben E. King Anthology that Rhino put out? I could've sworn it was on there! He also remade the song for his LP with the Average White Band, "Benny and Us". Re Christine Quaite: I mentioned that it came out on Laurie per Tim Ashibende's want list, yet I've perused my Laurie discog in Stak-O-Wax and NOTHING has turned up! Is there any way of confirming or denying this? I don't want to feel bad for possibly conveying misinformation. Re "What Am I Gonna Do With You--Hey Baby": Surprised that none of the other folks who are into Northern soul didn't mention this, but there's a decent version of this song by the Inspirations, on the flip of their Northern soul classic, "Touch Me, Hold Me, Kiss Me" (Black Pearl 100). Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:47:32 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Mark Radice Mark Radice wrote: > I'm 46 now, still writing about 3 songs a week, and have > been fortunate enough to have my songs on well over 120 > different CDs :) I passed the 3000 mark for songwriting > in 1998....sick, ain't it? Mark. Did you do "If You Can't Beat 'Em, Join 'Em"? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:57:49 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Ragin' Cajuns Phil M: > Johnnie Allan: Promised Land. Yes, Johnnie Allan by all means. Ever note how he left out the verse about "put me in a silk suit and stuck luggage in my hand"? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Vinyl Junkies Art Longmire writes: > I've skimmed over parts of the book, Mark -- it's > intriguing, although I don't agree with everything he > says. One statement made in the text really caught my > eye -- someone was quoted as saying that there are no > female record collectors! There's got to be some > somewhere, although I personally don't know any ... I vaguely know Brett Milano (pretty much just on the "we say hi to each other when our paths cross at gigs" level, although we've spent years on the same mailing list) and I'm sure he doesn't agree with that statement, whoever made it. For one thing, I know that Brett knows at least one female record collector, because he knows my wife! Stewart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:56:56 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: The Buchanan Brothers Mark writes: > Austin--whatever happened to Gene Pistilli? I know he broke it > off with Cashman and West to form the Manhattan Transfer, but > I don't think I've heard anything about him since. Hi Mark, I don't know if I answered this question about Gene P.,but he's alive and well writing songs in Nashville as far as I know. AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:36:33 EST From: Artie Butler Subject: Re: All our celebrity guests I wrote "Down Home Girl" with the great Jerry Leiber. I do not think he had another song in mind. If so, it's news to me. Thanks for writing to me. Artie Butler -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:47:49 -0000 From: Ed B Subject: Lloyd Thaxton DVD I think a Lloyd Thaxton DVD set would be awesome. Growing up in Boston my vivid memory is The Turtles performing Grim Reaper of Love and We'll Meet Again. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:45:27 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Buzz Cason Jeff Lemlich: > Can you ask Cason what he remembers about Edie Walker? Jeff, Buzz Cason said he remembered Edie but has no idea where she is now or what she's doing. Sorry. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:25:33 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Attn all Lloyd Thaxton fans Patricia wrote: > Concerning those who have inquired about a DVD -- or (hint hint) > DVDs, wouldn't a BOX SET be groovy??? -- below is a direct > quote from the man himself rec'd just today: > "I have all the material and am seriously considering it. > If I could get more mail like yours, it would HAPPEN!" Oh yeah, that definitely should happen, and ASAP. There is precious little vintage-era TV music footage well-transferred and legally available, and Lloyd's show, being on one hour daily (correct?) for all the right years, hosted virtually all the finest performers of the '60s. Just the other day I was privileged to see a great clip of The Shangri-Las running through a few of their hits, after which Mary and Lloyd mock(?)-maul each other following a flirtatious exchange. Yet as thrilling (and bizarre) as this all was, the transfer I had was grotesque, with timing bars in two or three places that some dingaling had seen fit to pixelate out, making those areas even more difficult to see through than they'd been in the first place. If Lloyd's master tapes, or something close to them, still exist, their release would be a vital addition to our cultural heritage, especially when you consider the alternative: their being lost forever. --Phil Milstein -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:23:55 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Austin Roberts Interview - Arkade/Austin R. music Art Longmire: > Was this recorded in 1968? The lyrics on this song always seemed to > me to refer to marijuana. Yes, another one of the infamous "Mary" > songs. But that may be just me reading something into it that isn't > there. > I also have the Arkade song "Sing Out the Love" on Dunhill Records- > this is the only song by Arkade I've heard so far. Hi Art, Mary was actually a beautiful 'flower child' I met one day while writing in Central Park.It really wasn't a 'joint' song, I swear. Also the biggest record the Arkade had was Morning Of Our Lives which went top 50 (I think) pop and top 15 on the AC charts. Best, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:11:56 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Austin Roberts Interview - Arkade/Austin R. music Mike Dugo wrote: > I know Austin has been kind enough to respond to many questions > via this list, but I'd like to welcome any and all questions from > fellow Spectropoppers. If you have questions you'd like to ask > Austin, please send them to me, mike @ (no > spaces). I'll be sure to include them into my interview. Hey Mike, I'm still in the process of moving back to Nashville in time to do a tribute show for my friend Gene Hughes (Casino's lead singer) on Feb. 10th. He had a bad car wreck recently,as you probably know. Bunch of us doing it. Let me know when you want to do interview. Almost anytime would be fine, just let me know. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:45:17 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: the stereo/mono debate Paul Bryant wrote: > So you have to judge song by song. Some are better, > some not. With Pet Sounds, as the accompanying book > says, it's not done to replace the mono. It's another > version. Like, say, the director's cut of Apocalypse > Now is another version, not intended to replace the > first famous version. John wrote: > I couldn't agree more. In some way I've always felt lucky > that there are "other" mixes to be found of familiar things. I'm all for multiple mixes of songs being widely available. The CDs of "Jefferson Airplane Takes Off" and the first Buffalo Springfield album, which contained both mono and stereo versions, were a great idea. The problem is that this is very much the exception rather than the rule. Starting in 1967-68 with the phasing out of mono LPs, and continuing right on through the CD era until relatively recently, the stereo mixes of classic 60s material have almost invariably been the ONLY mixes available. The consequence of this is simply stated: with few exceptions, it has been impossible to hear the vast majority of the music we fell in love with in the 1960s **in the form in which we fell in love with it** -- unless one is willing to put up with surface noise and scratches from the original LPs. A further consequence: the classic songs heard on Oldies radio stations are often wildly different from the way they sounded when they were contemporary hits...and yet all but the most avid listeners don't even realize this and come to accept what they hear today as the real McCoy. (The most egregious example of all: a completely different [and vastly inferior] take of The Animals' "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" is heard on 99 percent of Oldies stations*, rather than the original US single version.) And I don't want to hear "But those songs were mixed to sound good on tinny transistor and car radios...we can't play the original mixes on FM now!" Bullfeathers! Plenty of us played our 45s on our parents' console stereos at home and didn't suffer any dire consequences. I'll take my chances with the original mono mixes, as opposed to hearing something that sounds like it comes from a different universe altogether. * I say 99 percent because Cleveland's WMJI plays the correct version, and also the original single versions of Neil Diamond's "Solitary Man" and "Cherry Cherry," too...bless 'em. But they're the only ones I've ever heard do this. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:28:23 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Jimmie Haskell / Louie Shelton / Clingers Patrick Rands: > Is Louie Shelton at all related to Fred Shelton? Just curious, > because The Clinger Sisters sang backup on one of Fred's albums > in the 70s, maybe they also worked with Louie at some point too. I honestly don't know if Louie is related to Fred. Sorry, Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:31:48 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: The Buchanan Brothers/Cashmen/Morning Mist, etc etc Clark Besch: > and "Rosianna"/"A Song With A Happy Soul". "Rosianna" was the > original version of the Robbs' later incarnation, Cherokee's second > single release. Austin, were you involved in these?? Did you have any > contact with the Robbs? I have been hoping for a legit Cd of their > stuff. Wasn't involved in these. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:40:41 -0000 From: Michel Gignac Subject: Re: The Eighth Day / Artie Butler It so wonderful to read messages from so many of our idols, like newer members Austin Roberts, Al Kooper, etc. I have already told to Ron Dante that the album 'On The Eighth Day' is my favourite one of all time. Now I can say to Artie Butler the same thing. Artie was the arranger and the conductor on this album. I was checking some of my singles from A to D, and found that many of my favourites songs were arranged by Mister Butler. To name a few : The Boy From New York City (by Ad Libs); many Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart's recordings, including Goodbye Baby; Why Did You Do It Baby (by Lou Christie); the incredible Don't Let The Rain Fall Down On Me (by The Critters); The Loving Things (by The December's Children); so many records by Neil Diamond, and even many songs by Paul Anka. The list would be so long. Like I once told to Alan Gordon and other celebrities on this list, thank you all for giving us so much pleasure! Michel Gignac. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:09:15 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Cymbal & Clinger Patrick Rands: > Cymbal and Clinger had a song called Sunshine Man on a single > released by Judd Hamilton, which also had a song by you and Johnny > called Baltimore. Here are the details: > Sunshine Man (Cymbal / Clinger) / Baltimore (Cymbal / A. Roberts) > Produced by JC and JH / Arranged by Don Hackett > American International Records (AIR) A-1092/A-1093 (Promotional > copy) /Manufactured by Forward Records > Do you remember this single or Judd Hamilton? I'd love to know more > about him and who he is. Thanks for reminding me about Baltimore. Judd is a real talented guy. He is also the brother of the Hamilton in H, J F and R. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:37:32 -0500 From: Howard Subject: Re: Al Kooper, Monkey Time & Golden Apples Seeing Al Kooper (Hi Al) is now a member of the list reminds me he released a version of Curtis Mayfield composition 'Monkey Time' (CBS in UK methinks). Which in turn brought me onto a possible new thread? How may other artists beside the late great Major Lance have recorded versions of that song?? I can start you off with .. Golden Apples Of The Sun, which was released on Andrew Loog Oldhams 'Immediate' label in the UK.. Next? cheers.. Howard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:50:04 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Welcome Al; Chuck Berry Not to put too fine a point on it. Al Kooper's here and ain't it a treat! It would take us 24-48 hours to list all of the fine work you've done but for now let's just say Sea-Lark Enterprises and some of the most fabulous 6Ts pop tunes....SUPER SESSION......Blues Project tres psychedelico......and the phenomenal BS&T early stuff. Thanks for coming! ! ! My favorite Chuck Berry moment is probably from "School Day" --not to state the obvious--"Hail hail, rock 'n' roll!" Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:21:42 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: The Butler did it - Ben E. King Recent posts from Rashkovsky and Al Kooper prompted me to pull out my Ben E. King records. Lo and behold, there's Artie Butler's name as arranger on a couple. Not just any old couple either. Dig: "I Can't Break The News To Myself" (6390, 1965). Produced by Arif Mardin. The backing vocals on this baby are sensational. Gotta be the (proto) Sweet Inspirations. Or is it Valerie Simpson's gang? A guy's gotta know these things. Help me, Mr Butler! And while you're at it, who's it likely to be on that most vital instrument of the time, the triangle? How I love triangle records. "Where's The Girl" (Atco 6596, 1968). A magnificent Leiber & Stoller song previously cut by Jerry Butler, Freddie Scott and others. L & S also produced this. The arrangement is positively Bacharachian in its sophistication. Talking of whom, Jerry Leiber seems to have taken a leaf from Hal David in the lyric department, too. Great, great record. Remember this one, Artie? Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:01:02 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Questions for Al previously: > Al, a question for ya. I recall, quite a few years back, you were a > frequent contributor to Goldmine. I always enjoyed your reviews when > they appeared. But then, no sooner you were featured in their pages, > you just as quickly disappeared. What happened? I do recall a letter > or two complaining about your writing style, specifically the use of > certain off-color terminology. Was this a factor? Naaa I just got a monthly column writing for EQ magazine Did that for six years until a new editor took over and didn't have the slightest idea what I was writing about and fired me. I am starting to reprint those columns on my website under WORDS. Thanks for your kind words Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:05:58 EST From: Al Kooper Subject: Questions for Al previously: > would be interested to know if you were involved with > the Lewis session, and who chose to have the "Chordovox" > sound on the organ. Was John West involved? Believe East Coast me, I had nothing to do with that West Coast session!! The arranger was early Leon Russell so perhaps he was the organist . I believe Jim Keltner played drums and Carl Radle played bass Al Kooper -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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