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Spectropop - Digest Number 1231



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There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: masochist lyrics AND Vance-Pockriss query
           From: Rodney Rawlings 
      2. Re: The Buchanan Brothers
           From: Mark 
      3. answer records
           From: Ed B 
      4. How about brilliant tracks with ONE inept ingredient!
           From: Peter Kearns 
      5. Re: Medicine Man and the Real Napoleon XIV
           From: Mark 
      6. Re: Rapper DJs' use of vinyl records
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Re: Grapefruit
           From: Mark Wirtz 
      8. Re: Most Inept Hit
           From: Phil Hall 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:22:29 -0000 From: Rodney Rawlings Subject: Re: masochist lyrics AND Vance-Pockriss query I like it when old threads come up myself. I revive old threads whenever I can if they are interesting. I have a songbook I bought recently in which ITSY BITSY TEENIE WEENIE YELLOW POLKA DOT BIKINI lists Vance and Pockriss as the writers. The next song in the book is JOHNNY ANGEL, with words by Lyn Duddy and music by Lee Pockriss. Rodney -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:21:15 GMT From: Mark Subject: Re: The Buchanan Brothers Hi Clark! Who put out the Cashman and West CD? Sounds like something from Varese Vintage to me! I agree, "American City Suite" and "King of Rock and Roll" are great tunes (I remember "King of R&R" from when I was a kid!). "American City Suite" is a great predecessor to songs like "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant" and "New York State of Mind", but lacking the pretentiousness of Billy Joel. I too thought the line in the song was 'come a-close'. Another way I heard it (feasible since it's called "MEDICINE Man"): 'comatose' (pronounced comma-tose). Austin--whatever happened to Gene Pistilli? I know he broke it off with Cashman and West to form the Manhattan Transfer, but I don't think I've heard anything about him since. Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:26:03 -0000 From: Ed B Subject: answer records another addition to the answer records thread Memphis Calling New York City by Carole Coby Epic 9711 which is as title states an answer to Memphis (probably the Johnny Rivers wersion), b-side I Wanna Be a Big Girl -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:33:33 -0000 From: Peter Kearns Subject: How about brilliant tracks with ONE inept ingredient! Paul Bryant wrote: > Okay - what's your choice of the most badly performed > song ever to become a hit? My example is a slightly different concept; the otherwise great recording that has an ingredient so off-putting you'd wonder why the producer let it through. So I'll mention George's 'My Sweet Lord'. Nice playing yes, nice arrangement; the 'He's So Fine' debacle notwithstanding, and not to mention the borrowing of the Krishna prayer. BUT! Why on earth did Phil let 'those' backing vocals pass the test? They're so out of tune it's not funny. I've always been amazed by this. How could that happen? And another example from 1965; The Beatles 'You're Gonna Lose That Girl'. Again, the backing vocals are woefully out of tune. Couldn't they hear it?? It's beyond me. Peter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:32:12 GMT From: Mark Subject: Re: Medicine Man and the Real Napoleon XIV Hi John! Years after Samuels's fleeting success with the music biz, he founded the Tinder Box chain of tobacco shops, which were staples in suburban malls a while back. I don't know if they're still in existence, though. BTW, thanks for the info on the Walter Scott book. Now to track down a copy... Best, Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 20:42:28 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Rapper DJs' use of vinyl records Rodney Rawlings: > I'm a bit puzzled by what exactly rapper DJs are doing with vinyl > records and turntables when they accompany a performer. Are they > merely using the needle and grooves to make a scratching sound? One rekkid is used for beats...they usually spin the drumbreak. These days a rekkid will often include just the percussive element of the song anyway, but back in the almighty day it was more creative and all brand new. Then often there will be two more turntables and a creative DJ will either use two copies of the same jam, looping a lick, or two additional rekkids to 'sample in' a sound such as a horn blast, a yelp, an acapella segment, what have you, while the rapper performs the rap. Of course these days it's all done in the studio for the rekkid. You can do it at home with the right application (Reason, Pro Tools, Acid, etc) > If so, why? Why not a synthetic sound with the equipment they > already have? Doesn't this ruin both the record and the needle? Nope...a good Stanton Cartridge is a wonderful thing. And it has been synthesized. The above programs have the sound or you can sample the sound into them (at least with Pro Tools) > Do they care what record they use? Do they sometimes let the > record play a bit? Yes they care...that's the art of it > Who started this? Some say Grandmaster Flash, some say the Sugarhill Gang. It came out of NYC in the late 7T's. For a nice primer, there's a live mix of Salsoul Rekkids 7T's and early 8T's jams done by Grandmaster Flash. Its a goodie, filled with scratchin' and loopin'. Use some today! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 21:03:20 -0500 From: Mark Wirtz Subject: Re: Grapefruit Scott: >Didn't Mark Wirtz produce Grapefruit at some point?? I did indeed produce two tracks with Grapefruit in 1967 at Abbey Road #3 for Paul McCartney (I only remember one of the titles - "One More Try"), with Geoff Emerick at the board. Both tracks came out very well (very Beatlesque) and were intended for "single" release. Then, Terry Melcher came over to the UK and vetoed the release in favor of his own productions with Grapefruit. To my knowledge, the two tracks were never released. Mark Wirtz -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:04:42 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Re: Most Inept Hit My vote is for "Wild Weekend" by The Rebels, although "Angel Baby" by Rosie & The Originals is certainly a good candidate. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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