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Spectropop - Digest Number 1223



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               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!
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There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: The Buchanan Bros
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      2. Re: Melodies Rule
           From: Rodney Rawlings 
      3. Tracey Dey
           From: Phil Hall 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:08:04 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: The Buchanan Bros Austin: > Cashman and mess Austin, is this a Freudian typo? You told me you were friends with Tommy. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:23:45 -0000 From: Rodney Rawlings Subject: Re: Melodies Rule I agree with Steve and Austin on the preeminence of melody in judging the worth and appeal of a song. (That's part of why my site is called "Music, Melody, and Songs".) And I also happen to think that worth and appeal are intimately related. Those who dispute the dominance of melody often say words and music are equally important, and in a sense this is true. Bad lyrics can kill the appeal and worth of a good tune (but perhaps not of a great tune). But all their reasonings seem based on the premise that the relation between the two elements is symmetrical. This is false. To see this, consider what happens when you write the words first and then a good tune that exactly fits them without a single alteration to the lyric. Then see how much more readily one can put good lyrics to a preeexisting melody without changing a note. Also, take a great song and try to write out the lyric as lines and stanzas. You'll see that music wrestles words into a format quite different from that endemic to verse. In Rodgers' THOU SWELL (lyrics by Hart), we have: Give me just a plot of, Not a lot of Land-- And Thou swell, thou witty, thou grand. Would someone who wrote words to be later set to music think of that? Let's say he was the kind of poet who wrote short lines such as the above. How likely would the composer have come up with Rodgers' melody to THOU SWELL? It's true that (apparently) Rodgers put music to words prewritten by Hammerstein and came up with great tunes. I'm not saying the words cannot come first. Just that the relation between the two is not symmetrical. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:22:46 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: Tracey Dey I've always wondered what became of the some of the lesser- known but still noteworthy girl groups and female performers of the sixties. For example, I heard on good authority that Andrea Carroll married a movie producer and has been happily living on the West Coast for decades now; obviously retired from the music business. The Lovelites, featured on Spectropop, are another. I love Chuck Mallory's site ( http://www.girl-groups.com ), but while it's a mile wide, in many places it's understandably only an inch deep. I'd love to fill in the cracks, and you just can't get most of the info from The Allmusic Guide ( http://www.allmusic.com ). Tracey Dey is one of many others I've always wondered about. What happened to her? Does anyone have any specific information about her? How about Jean Thomas? There's lots of others I wonder about, too, but no point in getting carried away with the subject in one post. Is there a subgroup within Spectropop that specializes in the 60s girl groups? Thanks, Phil Hall -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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