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Spectropop - Digest Number 1194



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Greetings Spectropoppers
           From: Mark Speck 
      2. Re: Beatles covers
           From: Rat Pfink 
      3. Re: Beatles Covers
           From: Leslie Fradkin 
      4. Re: Beatle covers / All This and WW II
           From: Andy 
      5. Re: Standells / Ed Cobb
           From: Bob Hanes 
      6. Santa Baby
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      7. Michael Brown
           From: Steve Harvey 
      8. Re: Jerry Lordan / The Shadows
           From: Austin Roberts 
      9. Re: Jim Croce
           From: Austin Roberts 
     10. Re: Judith or Judy Powell
           From: Eddy 
     11. Please Phil Spector
           From: David A. Young 
     12. Re: US Chart Question, Still Unanswered
           From: Dan Hughes 
     13. Re: Rod Stewart
           From: Dave Heasman 
     14. Re. "uptight"
           From: TD 
     15. Re: Dirty Water
           From: Austin Roberts 
     16. Re: Michael Brown
           From: Jon Cook rotone@aol.com
     17. Re: Jerry Lordan / The Shadows
           From: Mikey 
     18. Re: Beatle covers / All This and WW II
           From: Scott 
     19. Re: The Grass Roots Sing Artie Wayne
           From: Artie Wayne 
     20. Re: Left Banke, Michael Brown
           From: Martin Roberts 
     21. Re: Michael Brown
           From: Scott 
     22. A-side Records
           From: Phil Hall 
     23. The Prefab Four
           From: Steve Harvey 
     24. Re: Gilbert O'Sullivan and John Fogerty
           From: Paul Bryant 
     25. Re: All This & World War II
           From: Steven Prazak 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:31:12 -0500 From: Mark Speck Subject: Greetings Spectropoppers Happy holidays Spectropoppers http://tinyurl.com/ywkml Mark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:30:01 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Beatles covers Artie Wayne wrote: > Albabe.........How ya' doin'? I'm glad you brought up "Got to get > you into my life" by Earth, Wind and Fire. It was produced by my > late partner Lou Reizner and was part of of a remarkable album > and film [co-produced by Russ Regan], "All this and World War II" > which was released on 20th Century Fox records and included > performances by the Bee Gees, Aerosmith, Helen Reddy, Ambrosia > and Rod Stewart[ who Lou discovered]. EW&F's version of "Got To Get You Into My Life" doesn't appear on the "All This and World War II" album (at least not on my copy), however it *does* appear on the "Sgt Pepper's LHCB" soundtrack. The track list for the "All This and World War II" soundtrack is as follows: 1 Ambrosia - Magical Mystery Tour 2 Elton John - Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 3 Bee Gees - Golden Slumbers; Carry That Weight 4 Leo Sayer - I Am The Walrus 5 Brian Ferry - She's Leaving Home 6 Roy Wood - Lovely Rita 7 Keith Moon - When I'm 64 8 Rod Stewart - Get Back 9 Leo Sayer - Let It Be 10 David Essex - Yesterday 11 Jeff Lynne - With A Little Help From My Friends; Nowhere Man 12 Lynsey De Paul - Because 13 Bee Gees - She Came In Through The Bathroom Window 14 Richard Cocciante - Michelle 15 Four Seasons - We Can Work It Out 16 Helen Reddy - The Fool On The Hill 17 Frankie Lane - Maxwell's Silver Hammer 18 Brothers Johnson - Hey Jude 19 Roy Wood - Polythene Pam 20 Bee Gees - Sun King 21 Status Quo - Getting Better 22 Leo Sayer - The Long and Winding Road 23 Henry Gross - Help 24 Peter Gabriel - Strawberry Fields Forever 25 Frankie Valli - A Day In The Life 26 Tina Turner - Come Together 27 Will Malone & Lou Reizner - You Never Give Me Your Money 28 London Symphony Orchestra - The End -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:48:31 -0700 From: Leslie Fradkin Subject: Re: Beatles Covers Scott Charbonneau wrote: > And let us not forget ESP Recording Artists The Godz and their > reconstruction, or should that be destruction, of You Won't See Me. Dear Group, Les Fradkin of the Godz here. Thank you so much for your support of "You Won't See Me." Without question, a unique performance! Happy holidays, Les Fradkin "Reality-The Rock Opera" http://www.lesfradkin.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:51:19 -0000 From: Andy Subject: Re: Beatle covers / All This and WW II My favorite cover is on this wonderful 2 LP set .....the Four Seasons with We Can Work It Out. As mentiond by Artie Wayne this is an album worth looking for. Maybe i'll even see if it's available on CD. BTW others on this album include: Elton John, Leo Sayer, Tina Turner, Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood. Happy Holidays to all, Andy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:19:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Hanes Subject: Re: Standells / Ed Cobb "lovers, muggers and thieves"... also failed to mention the Standells' first Lp, Live at PJs (in L.A.). Ed Cobb was definitely a Four Prep, as he was announced on one of the UCLA albums, "Edward- 'all american'- 'trueheart'- 'albino', Cobb". The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, Church of the Harmonic Overdub -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:40:29 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Santa Baby Well, I'll tell ya'--- got an interesting book for Xmas from an old friend. I'm sure that all you "keepers of the flame" are already aware of the tome. It's far from perfect, I've already found 5 listings for Woke Up This Morning and none of them were credited to B.B. King, as well as other oversights--but nothing is perfect, even my memory it seems. Anyway the book is named "Who Sang Our Songs?" The Official Rhythm & Blues and Doo-Wop Songography". It is kind of self published by an organization called the United In Group Harmony Association. They list 30,000 songs by title, then show artist, label(s) and record number(s). Also has a couple of appendices, including the UGHA Top 100 Vocal Group Recordings, which shows Golden Teardrops by The Flamingos at #1 and Close Your Eyes by The Five Keys at #98--that could start an argument in an empty apartment. (originally "roo in an empty hoose" by Johnny Cymbal's mother") So, I'm not really recommending it. Still it's another ready reference if you're into such things and certainly contains some arcane items. ISBN # 0-9713979-0-2 in case you want to check it out on Amazon or something. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:46:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Michael Brown Dave Heasman wrote: > (Michael Brown's) later group, Stories, was average at best, and > since then next to nothing. The Stories were forgettable, but the stuff Brown did the Beckies and Montage is great! Rhino needs to do a compilation of all his stuff. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:41:16 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Jerry Lordan / The Shadows Thanks for the info, I never knew that about Apache. Now a Shadows question. Were they the first to record Mr. Moto or was it an American surf group called the Bellairs (sp?)? AR -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 02:22:41 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Jim Croce Thanks Artie, great hearing from you. I got to know Jimmy and Maury through Cashman and West (a\k\a Minogue And Picardo), who were my first publishers in 1968 at Ampco, Pampco (land of Cymbal and Rashkow). Jimmy was a wonderfully friendly and inquisitive soul. He used to ask me to tell him southern colloquialisms and stories, since he knew I was from the south. His ability to tell a story as if he were there when it happened, plus his beautiful love songs, have stood the test of time. I still stay in touch with Tommy West, one of his producers and, I believe, the one who brought Jim to New York after they had been to Villanova at the same time. It was a terrific time for pop music when the Jim Croce's could talk about Time In A Bottle and Zep could shred the charts with Whole Lotta Love plus many many different kinds of music being played and accepted by fans everywhere. I am so thankfull to have been a part of this business for the past 36 years. It keeps you young. Look forward to staying in touch, as I know we have many mutual friends. Have a great holiday season, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:27:36 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Judith or Judy Powell Ken Mortimer: > One name from the '60s is a complete mystery to me - Judith > (or Judy) Powell. She seems to have been around the '60s > session scene in London but I can find nothing about her. Can > anyone help. Hey Ken, My info shows Judith Powell on the Manfred Mann's Eathband album "Messin'" and the first Stephen Stills solo album. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:59:05 -0000 From: David A. Young Subject: Please Phil Spector My dear fellow Spectropoppers, For over a quarter century, I have called Phil Spector every December 26 to wish him a happy birthday. This year, in addition to paying him my personal tribute in that way, I offer as a gift to him - and to you - an article documenting the many ways that others have paid tribute to Phil in their own art, musical and otherwise. Eight pages deep (besides the introduction), lavishly illustrated, and organized into cross-referenced categories, "Please Phil Spector" is presented for your enjoyment thanks to the much-appreciated assistance and support of our beloved administrators. Simply click below to begin your journey... http://spectropop.com/PPS/index.htm ...and thank you so very much for letting us spend this Phil Spector's birthday with you! David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:20:43 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: US Chart Question, Still Unanswered Paul, in the "golden age" there were three main music "chart creators" in the USA. All the charts were put together by the magazines that featured them: Billboard, Cashbox, and Record World. If the charts were based solely on sales reports, the charts would be identical. They were not; surely someone here can explain how each of the magazines determined chart positions. Rumor has it that Cashbox was run by the Mafia and that their charts were "fixed". When an honest man was brought in to clean up the magazine, he was promptly assassinated; details here (in the Chuck Dixon obit): http://www.radiocountry.org/newsletters/jan02news.htm Billboard is the only one of the three left; it was always the biggest and best-known since it started (I believe) in the 1800's as a newsmagazine for vaudeville performers and touring circuses. Every radio station subscribed to Billboard, many of them also got Cashbox, and I believe Record World was a distant third. Doesn't answer your question but hopefully provides some insight on the magazines that produced the charts. Dan, http://members.soltec.net/~dan (spiffy home page) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:01:35 -0000 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Re: Rod Stewart Artie Wayne: > ...my late partner Lou Reizner .....Rod Stewart [who Lou > discovered]. ?? I didn't know he was lost. I suppose Rod had a quiet-ish period between the Steampacket folding & his joining Jeff Beck, but he wasn't really off the scene. He was fairly active in London between 65 & 68. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:19:56 -0500 From: TD Subject: Re. "uptight" Richard Williams: > I'm absolutely sure (from personal recollection) that "uptight" > enjoyed a brief usage, circa '66, as a synonym for "groovy", > "happening", "far-out", etc, before being redefined to mean > "small-minded", repressed", "bent out of shape by society's > pliers", etc... >From personal recollection, back in the 1950s, "uptight" meant "ill-at-ease, frightened, worried"--it was a veiled reference to the involuntary natural withdraw of the testicles when the male is threatened... -- TD -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 02:31:01 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Dirty Water Steve Harvey: > I always heard the "Dirty Water" had to do with the Boston > Strangler ("I'm a wishing and a hoping - Dusty where are you? - > that just once those doors weren't locked"). Reinforced by the > line "with lovers, buggers and thieves" for further criminal > elemental flavoring. Thought it was 'muggers'. Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 04:29:23 EST From: Jon Cook rotone@aol.com Subject: Re: Michael Brown Could you tell us a little about the interview from last year? I'd be very interested to hear what he's up to, why he's dropped out of sight, etc. I was surprised to hear that he had done an interview so recently. My understanding was that he was a recluse and that his sister controlled access to him; And she didn't let much, if anything, through to him. Something similar to the Syd Barrett situation. Was that incorrect? jon cook -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:12:57 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Jerry Lordan / The Shadows Austin Roberts: > Now a Shadows question. Were they the first to record > Mr. Moto or was it an American surf group called the > Bellairs (sp?)? Austin, it was The Belairs. Paul Johnston of The Belairs wrote it, I believe. PS...I have your LP on Chelsea!! Did Hal Blaine play drums on that? Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:37:23 EST From: Scott Subject: Re: Beatle covers / All This and WW II Andy: > My favorite cover is on this wonderful 2 LP set .....the Four > Seasons with We Can Work It Out. As mentiond by Artie Wayne this > is an album worth looking for. Maybe I'll even see if it's > available on CD. BTW others on this album include: Elton John, > Leo Sayer, Tina Turner, Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood. The soundtrack is kind of interesting, but what in the world were they thinking about when they came up with the movie concept ... geez talk about 1970s excesses! Happy holidays to all, Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: The Grass Roots Sing Artie Wayne Glenn........How ya' doin'? Thanks for putting"I Wanna' slow Dance Again" [Wayne/Helms/Hirsh] by the Grass Roots up on Musica. I'm really proud of that song...........it reflects my own love of "Oldies"and a simpler time. "Hey, Mr. DJ, the fast songs you play are OK ....but I Wanna' Slow dance Again Play somethin' tuneful...make it by the Lovin'Spoonful I Wanna' Slow dance Again........." Merry Christmas, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:34:00 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Left Banke, Michael Brown Austin Roberts wrote: > I think Mike Brown's combination, classical, rock pop > arrangements (his father was a violinist with the New York > Philharmonic, I believe), were so unique and the perfect > marriage to the songs that they developed their own niche. and Dave Heasman replied: > Mike Brown's father was Harry Lookofsky, a fine classical > violinist who also played some genuine swinging stuff & some > innovative "in-between" music. Harry Lookofsky is (as I'm sure Austin knows) aka Hash Brown who is credited on almost all the Jerome Brothers recordings as "Hash Brown & his Orchestra" or as conductor. I've been told that, "Harry had a piece of the action. He also wrote with them as H. Lookofsky or H. Brown which leads me to assume that the M. Lookofsky writing credit belongs to Michael Brown. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:07:18 EST From: Scott Subject: Re: Michael Brown Steve Harvey writes: > The Stories were forgettable, but the stuff Brown did the > Beckies and Montage is great! Rhino needs to do a compilation > of all his stuff. Personally I like the Montage LP, but the Beckies album doesn't do much for me. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:17:59 -0000 From: Phil Hall Subject: A-side Records A-Side records out of Japan had some great stuff. Does anyone know if any of that stuff is still around anywhere? Phil Hall -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: The Prefab Four Definitely the Belairs. April 1961 was when they released Paul Johnson's tune. They were also one of the earliest "surf" bands although they didn't call themselves that. I can't recall the Shadows doing much surf stuff or even "Mr. Moto". I know they did do a cover of "Walk Don't Run" (but so did the Ventures - ha!) By the way, that is Cliff Richards on chinese gong on "Apache". One thing that is not said much about the Shadows is the influence they had on the Beatles. Their lineup, lead guitar, rhythm, electric bass and drums, was the template for the Beatles instrumental formation. In some way we could call them the Prefab Four. Also, they were mainly known for their instrumentals and the Beatles first commercial release written by themselves was, "Cry For A Shadow". The Beatles would only release one other instrumental, "Flying", during their career and that was in 1968. Because the Shadows were the biggest pop group before the Beatles the Fabs tried to distance themselves from the old school sound. I remember reading their tailor talking about the Beatles coming in and saying, "We don't want to look anything like the Shadows". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:58:34 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Gilbert O'Sullivan and John Fogerty Stuart Miller wrote: > He got involved in a long and serious legal dispute > with Gordon Mills which took many years to resolve. > He won millions of pounds or even more millions of dollars. During this period his recording career was more or less on hold, I understand, and didn't the same thing happen to John Fogerty after Creedence disbanded and he was about to launch a solo career? Big names, huge lawsuits and no new records for years - talk about killing the goose that laid the golden egg. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:13:18 -0500 From: Steven Prazak Subject: Re: All This & World War II Oooh, thanks to Artie Wayne for bringing up this oft forgotten elpee. Despite its considerable star power, no one paid much mind to what ultimately proved to be a daring re-tooling of some classic Beatles tunes. Lou Reizner and especially arranger Wil Malone (of Orange Bicycle "fame") really tested the waters playing with the melodies, inverting them, and countering them ...giving this already deathless music some fascinating new branches of life. Really inspirational stuff, this! The tunes that stick with me the most are Fool On the Hill by, of all people, Helen Reddy, and especially Leo Sayer's Long and Winding Road. A bit heavy on the bombast and sweeping crescendos, but if you don't mind the drama, this is quite a convincing collection of Len-Mac interpretations. And good luck in finding a copy! Oh, and Artie, Earth Wind & Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life actually popped up on the few-years-later Sgt. Pepper film soundtrack. A great take nonetheless. Pity about the film, though. By the way, has anyone actually seen the All This & World War II film that this music is supposed to accompany? Apparently, it went into release and hibernation the same day. Steven Prazak Atlanta, GA -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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