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Spectropop - Digest Number 1193

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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Ruby & the Romantics
           From: Tony Leong 
      2. Jerry Lordan
           From: Steve Harvey 
      3. Re: Gilbert O' Sullivan
           From: Glenn 
      4. Re: Beatles Covers
           From: Glenn 
      5. Re: Orpheus / Bosstown Sound
           From: Tom 
      6. Re: Left Banke
           From: Dave Heasman 
      7. Re: Burt Bacharach's first Production
           From: Mick Patrick 
      8. The Grass Roots Sing Artie Wayne
           From: Glenn 
      9. Re: Beatles Covers - Shirley Horn
           From: Chris 
     10. Re: Beatles Covers / Across The Universe
           From: Peter Kearns 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:21:59 -0000 From: Tony Leong Subject: Re: Ruby & the Romantics Me: > I have always wondered--Do the Blossoms back Clydie King on > "The Thrill Is Gone" from 1965?? Mick Patrick: > I've just listened to "The Thrill Is Gone" on headphones. To my > ears, it doesn't sound like the Blossoms on back-ups. Gee Mick, it sure sounded like Darlene's alto on "The Thrill Is Gone" to me!!! Oh well. Mikey: > Speaking of Ruby, a lot of people don't know that Ruby and her > group did the very first version of "Hurting Each Other". The > Carpenters heard it and covered it. Mick: > Not correct, I'm afraid. Ruby & the Romantics' version of "Hurting > Each Other" (A & M 1042, 1969) was preceded by Jimmy Clanton's > rendition (Mala 500, 1965). Can anyone tell me if Ruby and her > boys' recording is available on CD? You were right--Jimmy Clanton sang a DULL version of "Hurting Each OTher" on Shindig in June 1965--long before Ruby or the Carpenters. Speaking of which, I think the Carpenters MAY have also done a rendition of "Your Baby Doesnt Love You Anymore" on one of their later LP's. Anyhow, I was disappointed that Ruby's "Hurting Each Other" was not on that recent CD collection--nor is it on ANY CD that I know of-- YET!! Lastly, speaking of CD's--is the BLossoms "Stoney End" available on a CD??????????????????????? Tony -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Jerry Lordan No, Jorgan Ingmann merely covered "Apache" when Atlantic Records was bungling their promotion for the Shadows' version (just saw the American lp for $125). It was written by Jerry Lordan. He supposedly played it for the Shadows on a ukelele on a bus. Bert Weadon actually did the first version. Lordan actually wrote a number of hits for the Shadows and their offshoot, Jet Diamond/Tony Meehan. He had a great knack for a melody, but a lousy lyricist. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:22:48 -0000 From: Glenn Subject: Re: Gilbert O' Sullivan Steve Harvey wrote: > I actually taped his show at the Academy of Music in Philly back in > 1974. What stands out was him being upset with either a reviewer or > somebody at the show having questioned his masculinity. I remember > him challenging the offender to come up and duke it out onstage. Kind of surprising - I mean, wasn't Gilbert the guy who proclaimed "I'm A Writer Not A Fighter"? Well, at least that was the title of one of his '70s albums. At the time, the sentiment impressed me. Now I'm not so impressed. Glenn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:38:59 -0000 From: Glenn Subject: Re: Beatles Covers > Possible topic for a new thread: non-copycat cover versions of > Beatles tunes which work on their *own* terms. My all-time favorite Beatles cover is Robert Palmer's version of "Not A Second Time". He brought a new energy to this often-overlooked Beatles classic, and it was perfect for his voice. I believe Palmer's version was released as a single, but surprisingly didn't chart. Glenn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:09:46 -0000 From: Tom Subject: Re: Orpheus / Bosstown Sound Mark Frumento wrote: > Another interesting little LP from Bosstown is Chamaeleon Church. > The band's main distinction was that Chevy Chase ranked among it's > members (don't laugh, he's actually quite good and even contributes > a credible pop vocal on one song). I found this interesting quote from Chevy Chase regarding his band, Chamaeleon Church and Orpheus. "Our band once went on a small tour of Southern universities and pretended we were Orpheus; we all looked alike with those Nehru jackets, right? At one school in Kentucky, the audience started yelling out, 'You aren't Orpheus!' And I was playing keyboards and yelling back, 'Yes, we are!' We did all their songs--'Can't Find the Time To Tell You' and all those--and they bought it." - Chevy Chase >From the following website: Tom -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:10:47 -0000 From: Dave Heasman Subject: Re: Left Banke Austin Roberts: > I think Mike Brown's combination, classical, rock pop arrangements > (his father was a violinist with the New York Phiharmonic, I > believe), were so unique and the perfect marriage to the songs that > they developed their own niche. Mike Brown's father was Harry Lookofsky, a fine classical violinist who also played some genuine swinging stuff & some innovative "in- between" music. The first Left Banke LP with "Barterers & Their Wives" and "She May Call You Up Tonight" was brilliant. Mike Brown is a lost talent, I fear. His later group, Stories, was average at best, and since then next to nothing. He's still in New York, and a little bitter if a radio interview last year is any indication. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:33:22 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach's first Production Me: > Here's a poser for all you Bacharach experts. What was the > first record on which Burt was credited as producer? No prizes > for the correct answer, except my admiration. > > Still waiting for a correct answer. What? no Bacharach experts > out there? :-) Albabe Gordon: > Could it be "The Blob" by The Five Blobs (9/58)? Nope. Bacharach didn't produce this. > Or the earliest record I have with his credit is "Baby It's > You" by The Shirelles (12/61) Nope. Bacharach's first credited production was earlier than this. Richard Havers: > I know that BB worked with Vic Damone, as his piano player, > around '53/54. They had met in the army and on returning to > civilian life BB played piano for Damone on cabaret dates. Did > it extend to production? Blimey! Not *that* early! :-) Albabe continues guessing: > And one of my faves: "Make It Easy On Yourself" by Jerry Butler? Nope. Actually, Burt was credited as "arranger" on this classic, not "producer". There is a difference. > Or maybe it's an early Dionne Warwick song, like something from > the album with "Don't Make Me Over" (11/62)? Nope. Too late. Burt's first credited production was released in January 1961. There, a clue. Any more takers before I spill the beans? Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:34:55 -0000 From: Glenn Subject: The Grass Roots Sing Artie Wayne Artie Wayne wrote: > Glenn.......How ya' doin'? Yes, I'm the co-writer of "I Wanna > Slow Dance Again". The Grass Roots did a great job on it!! > When I wrote the first verse and chorus, I was so excited I > cornered my friend Richard Perry in an elevator and sang it > to him accapella. He loved it and asked me to finish it up > with Artie Garfunkel in mind. I ran home and got my friends > Norma Helms and Kenny Hirsch to help me finish it up. Artie > never cut it......but fortunately the Grass Roots did. I haven't > heard it in years.......could you play it to musica? Yes, Artie, there IS a Santa Claus, and he brought me a brand new CD recorder! Or maybe I bought it for myself. I can't remember. In any case, I am happy to (finally) be able to respond to your request, and I have uploaded your song "I Wanna Slow Dance Again" by the Grass Roots to musica. Thanks for the interesting story on the song's creation. It's neat to know that this one was basically your baby. It's definitely one of the better songs on the Grass Roots' last album of the '70's! Garfunkel, huh? I guess I could hear that - it would have suited him - but after hearing Rob Grill & Co.'s fine, and very sincere- sounding, version, it's difficult to imagine it by anyone else. Have a great holiday, Glenn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Subject: Re: Beatles Covers - Shirley Horn > Possible topic for a new thread: non-copycat cover versions of > Beatles tunes which work on their *own* terms. One that I, myself, am fond of is Shirley Horn's sensual, Latin-y version of "And I Love Him" on her 1965 album "Travelin' Light." Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:04:23 -0000 From: Peter Kearns Subject: Re: Beatles Covers / Across The Universe Chris wrote: > Possible topic for a new thread: non-copycat cover versions of > Beatles tunes which work on their *own* terms. In that case, since we're on the topic of Beatle covers, here's one I did of Across The Universe recently. See what you think: -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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