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Spectropop - Digest Number 1184

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Bad Lines
           From: Paul Bryant 
      2. more songs about food
           From: Paul Bryant 
      3. Re: Bad Lines - Beach Boys
           From: Paul Bryant 
      4. Re: Orpheus
           From: James Botticelli 
      5. Re: Bad Lines
           From: Orion 
      6. Vince Eager & the Ronettes
           From: S'pop Projects 
      7. Re: Talk about
           From: Steve Crump 
      8. Re: Orpheus
           From: Orion 
      9. Re: For all the honest world to feel
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     10. Dolphin / Dolton explained
           From: Michael Kelly 
     11. Ventures Vinyl
           From: Michael Kelly 
     12. Patti Dalstrom
           From: Steve Harvey 
     13. Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     14. Re: Uptight / research
           From: Phil Milstein 
     15. More from Liberty on Dolphin/Dolton
           From: Doc 
     16. Re: Jerry Yester solo
           From: Kevin 
     17. Re: Two Dolphin labels / The Ventures
           From: Bob Hanes 
     18. Re: Talk about / Morricone, etc.
           From: Julio Niño 
     19. Re: Snuff Garrett
           From: Mark T 
     20. Re: Clairifyin'
           From: Chris 
     21. Re: Bad Lines/So Lonely
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     22. Orpheus
           From: Mark T 
     23. Sex and Food
           From: Julio Niño 
     24. Re: Rokes / Yardbirds
           From: S.J. Dibai 
     25. Re: Neighb'rhood Childr'n / Phil's Spectre / Clydie King
           From: John Berg 

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Bad Lines > Another gem from Dylan, this one from "Million Dollar Bash": > I looked at my watch, I looked at my wrist > I punched myself in the face with my fist. > Ah, but is really better than, "his cheese in his chunk and > his cheese in his cash" from the same song. Correction - Well, that big dumb blonde With her wheel in the gorge And Turtle, that friend of theirs With his checks all forged And his cheeks in a chunk With his cheese in the cash They're all gonna be there At that million dollar bash pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:49:08 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: more songs about food David Goodwin wrote: > Thought I'd add to the insanity. From the Association's self- > titled album, and the obviously-a-joke-but-still-fun song, > Broccoli... Well, the Association were not the first to make a connection between food and sex - I believe Sigmund Freud has whole chapters on the subject. But the definitive food/sex song has got to be one of my fave 1965 hits, Bread and Butter by the Newbeats: I like bread and butter I like toast and jam That's what my baby feeds ne I'm her lovin' man (He likes bread and butter He likes toast and jam That's what his baby feeds him He's her lovin' man) She don't cook mashed potatoes Don't cook T-bone steak Don't feed me peanut butter She knows that I can't take Got home early one mornin' Much to my surprise She was eatin' chicken and dumplins With some other guy (No more bread and butter No more toast and jam He found his baby eatin' With some other man) I mean to say - that's really quite rude, don't you think? And what's that "she knows that I can't take" all about?? pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Bad Lines - Beach Boys David Mirich wrote: > Another Bad Line is from Mike Love's song on Surf's Up which > talks about an "ecological aftermath". There are several others > by Brian and the Boys that bring a smile that don't come to mind > right now. The Beach Boys turned into eco-warrior hippy types in 1970 and on the Surf's Up album we have Mike Love trying to become the spokesman for a generation by rewriting Riot in cell Block No 9 with "relevant" lyrics - here's one of the ghastly verses : "America was stunned on May 4, 1970 When rally turned to riot up at Kent State University They said the students scared the Guard Though the troops were battle dressed Four martyrs earned a new degree The Bachelor of Bullets I know we're all fed up with useless wars and racial strife But next time there's a riot, well, you best stay out of sight" Thanks Mike - Bachelor of Bullets - wow, that's neat. Next up, Al Jardine from the Holland album, "California Saga": "Have you ever been to a festival, the Big Sur congregation? Where Country Joe will do his show And he'd sing about liberty And the people there in the open air, one big family. Yeah the people there love to sing and share Their new found liberty" 10 points on the cringe-ometer for that one, from the same group who but a few short years before could sing these sublime lines: Pedal's to the floor hear the dual quads drink And now the four-thirteen's lead is startin' to shrink He's hot with ram induction but it's understood I got a fuel injected engine sittin' under my hood 10 points on the cool-ometer for that one. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:52:58 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Orpheus Tom wrote: > Yeah, I was really surprised to find out that "I've Never Seen > Love..." didn't even chart. It had all the elements to be a mega > hit of the day. > I love the chunky acoustic guitars, stand-up bass and Bernard > Purdie's funky drum fills. It remains the epitome of their early > folk-meets-pop-meets-jazz sound. > Dare I say, it may even equal their classic, "Can't Find The Time". Take the risk sir....It knocks the slightly tame 'Can't Find The Time' out of the tub. In fact check out 'I'll Fly', 'Lesley's World' and a host of other LP tracks and I think you'll find 'Can't Find The Time', pretty as it may be, on the pedestrian tip. But that's just me. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:53:57 -0600 From: Orion Subject: Re: Bad Lines Paul B: > Regarding Stevie - can someone enlighten me about something which has > been a puzzle since around 1966? "Uptight, everything is all right" > sings Stevie - but "uptight" doesn't mean "all right" does it? It's > ancient 60s slang meaning the very opposite to all right! As I recall in that era if something was "tight" it was a good thing. "Uptight" though I don't really recall myself or friends using that term. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:34:22 -0000 From: S'pop Projects Subject: Vince Eager & the Ronettes Some members might have already noticed the new photo which adorns the S'pop members page. It comes from the booklet which accompanies the recently released CD "Yea! Yea! It's Vince Eager" (Rollercoaster RCCD 3058). The shot was taken during Vince's tour of the UK in 1964 and pictures him having a drink with the Ronettes and members of the Kinks and the Yardbirds. Thanks to Rob Finnis for the photo. View it here: The S'pop Team -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:58:38 -0000 From: Steve Crump Subject: Re: Talk about Julio Niño wrote: > Hi Everybody, Could anybody tell me if Mina's version of "Talk > About Me" (Greenwich/Raleigh) was issued as a single in USA in > the sixties?. Was it even released in Italy?. Because I can't > find any reference of it in Mina's official discography. Hi Julio, Here's what I've managed to piece together from sites on the net. Il Cielo In Una Stanza was released in the USA on the Time label and made the charts 1961. The label lists the song as "This World We Love In", but is is the Italian language version. Meanwhile - in the UK - the Oriole label releases This World We Love In / You're Tired Of Me sometime in 1960. I presume that these are the English language versions, but I can't say for sure. Late in 1962 Mina travels to the US to record (probably in New York) She records 6 tracks in early October Just Let me Cry / Pretend That I'm Her released on Verve 10277 Just Let me Cry / Pretend That I'm Her released on Italdisc in Feb 63 Non Piangero / A Volte (italian versions) released on Italdisc in Feb 64 AFTER she had left the label Young At Love / Slowly released on Italdisc in 1965 The remaining 2 tracks Talk About Me and Goodbye Is A Lonesome Sound I don't think were ever released at the time they were recorded. I have them on some early 80's compilation albums (Pizza e Cafe), but I have a feeling that they might have been "added" to various albums to make a collection. Later in October 1964 - I believe Mina travelled to Australia and 3 singles and 3 eps were released by a small label in Melbourne. Just Let Me Cry / Pretend That I'm Her was one of those singles By the way have you noticed that on Pretend there is no trace of an accent - yet on Talk About Me she sounds as if she is "sounding" the lyrics. And have you also noticed that Pretend on ANY CD you find is always shorter buy about 35 seconds?? Julio - if you don't already have them I can highly recommend Mina's UK LP from 1978 which is all in English, plus an earlier American LP on Regalia which has 4 tracks unique to that album, including another english version of This World We Love In I recently picked up a whole bunch of Ennio Morricone arranged singles on Ebay. One of them is a killer - L'Amore Gira by Rosy on RCA. It is the closest yet I have heard to true Italian girl group - the double vocals, chanting girl background and stuttering drums - mmmm magnifico!!! Cheers Steve -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:51:12 -0600 From: Orion Subject: Re: Orpheus Clark Besch wrote: > Tom, I so agree with needing to have the 'uncovered' "Can't Find the > Time" and the "anatomy" "Never seen love like this" versions! They > are so, so cool to hear how two great songs were produced step by > step. Tom : > Yeah, I was really surprised to find out that "I've Never Seen > Love..." didn't even chart. It had all the elements to be a mega > hit of the day. As has been noted previously, I am a huge fan of Orpheus and I believe they just didn't have the right manager taking care of them to get them looked at nation wide. In the Kansas City area where I was living, I am pretty sure that their music didn't chart at all. I know that one of their tunes was on WHB's "make it or break it" where listeners call in and say play it more or don't play it (whew long sentence). I remember it didn't make it, as I was there that night. I was disappointed as it received hardly any "make it" votes. Peace Orion HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!! This is the best Yahoo group I belong to. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:15:42 -0000 From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: For all the honest world to feel Sandy Miller: >I couldn't resist responding to Rashkowsky's challenge for Adelson to name >the song containing the words, "for all the honest world to feel". You and Dan Hughes both get a D in self control. Awww what the heck, he'd never have gotten it anyway. Di la, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:59:43 -0500 From: Michael Kelly Subject: Dolphin / Dolton explained The following is from interviews conducted for my book, Liberty Records. (Liberty bought Dolton). Bob Reisdorf: "I picked 'Dolphin' for the label's name because I had an affection for dolphins. It was not deeply thought out or anything, no one sat around for hours thinking about it. But they are lovely creatures, beautiful things. "The name 'Dolphin' was cleared by the musicians union, I believe that was the agency that gave those clearances for the name for a new company. But after we had our first hit, we got a letter from one of the major book publisher. It was a very nice letter, 'We envy your success, but we are afraid we are going to have to ask you to change the name.' I decided that I might as well keep the first three letters, so I just changed it from 'Dolphin' to 'Dolton.' Although the world 'Dolton' meant nothing at all. It was absolutely meaningless." There is every reason to suppose that Bob Reisdorff's explanation of the reason the Dolphin name had to be dropped is accurate. However, Snuff Garrett recalls it slightly differently. "John Dolphin in downtown L.A. sued so they changed the label's name to Dolton." Maybe John owned the book publishing company? In any event, Bob Reisdorff did change the name of Dolphin records. "In order to comply with their request, and our legal position was rather weak although we were not at fault, we changed our name. I suppose we could have gone ahead, but the letter had been written and we could possibly have been in trouble. I don't know whether that was true or not, I wasn't sophisticated enough at that time to know or to make the judgement. But I was advised to change it by the attorney at Liberty, Si Zucker." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:04:57 -0500 From: Michael Kelly Subject: Ventures Vinyl Founding Venture Bob Bogle told me the following for my book Liberty Records: And Ventures LPs? Well, they have released over eighty (count 'em, 80!) LPs in the USA, over 150 LPs world-wide! They kept the same line-up of four members for over 25 years! Their other claims to fame include: Six Gold LPs: Walk, Don't Run -- 1960 Telstar and the Lonely Bull -- 1963 Golden Greats -- 1967 Hawaii Five-0 -- 1969 10th Anniversary Album -- 1970 Pops in Japan -- 1970 Three Gold Singles: "Walk, Don't Run" -- 1960 "Walk, Don't Run '64" -- 1964 "Hawaii Five-0" -- 1969 One Gold 8-Track Tape: Golden Best 20 -- 1970 (Japan) >From 1960 through 1966, the Ventures sold over one million LPs, each year! In 1963, they were voted as one of the top five artist in the world! They have sold over 10 million LPs -- in the tiny country of Japan, alone! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:40:23 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Patti Dalstrom Hey Artie, I have Patti Dalstrom's lps. What is happening with her these days? Whose Musicmaster Bass is that in corner of the photo? Steve Harvey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:55:13 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop update Girl Group fans are advised to pay special attention to the records on offer this week. Last year Ann-Margret, Peggy March, Neil Sedaka, Sam Cooke and others left seasonal messages of goodwill. This year I'm proud to present Atco recording starlet April Stevens, whose sultry comments on the weather will warm the heart of every man...and woman, too:-) She's on the homepage: The Record Of The week is an obscure little gem, Yolanda and the Castanets' "Meet Me After School" on Tandem. Of course the boys haven't been forgotten. Next week the choice is between the Cascades or Eddie Hodges, both in harmony mode. The featured song on Al Hazan's page is another obscure 60s female vocalist: Lee-Anne with the self-composed "Never" on Ann records: This week's jingle is #8 Adventure - please see note below in regards to future transmissions: Coming Soon: First the bad news, The KHJ jingles on the radio page will be ending shortly. (Don't be too sad, they will be back.) Now the good news! I'm pleased to announce a major new weekly radio broadcast will be replacing it. Unless you tuned into BBC Radio Oxford in the early 80s I can promise you will have not heard anything of its like before. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:00:56 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Uptight / research Orion wrote: > As I recall in that era if something was "tight" it was a > good thing. "Uptight" though I don't really recall myself > or friends using that term. "Uptight" was also one of the names of Andy Warhol's multimedia extravaganzas, featuring the Velvet Underground, before more-or-less settling into "Exploding Plastic Inevitable." Not quite sure what they meant by it, though. A powerful new research resource has come on the scene: searches done within the Books section at can now search within the text of books. I'm not sure what pct. of books in their catalogue this applies to, but, needless to say, the utility of such an application can hardly be underestimated. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:53:23 -0500 From: Doc Subject: More from Liberty on Dolphin/Dolton Bob Residorf: Interestingly, when Dolphin was re christened "Dolton" Records, the blue label representing the ocean stayed, the letters turning lighter blue as they got deeper in the blue "ocean" stayed, even the three swimming dolphins on the top of the label stayed! Only the name was changed to protect the company. ...and... Later, the name change from "Dolphin" to "Dolton" took a while to accomplish. In the interim, "Come Softly To Me" was switched over to Liberty and quickly re-released as Liberty record number 55188. The "55" stood for 1955, the year Liberty began. "188" stood for record number 188, although Liberty had not actually released exactly that many 45's. Many numbers were assigned but were not released, and on rare occasions the same record number was used twice for different releases. -------------------------------------- Doc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:41:01 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Subject: Re: Jerry Yester solo Rikard sez: › Jerry Yester peaked with his solo single "Ashes have › turned". What an amazing tune! One of the top 3 soft › rock singles of all time if you ask me. I don´t know › when it was released or if Jerry wroteit himself, so if › anyone has any info on that disc that´d be nice. Here's some info I was able to dig up on Jerry Yester's "Ashes Have Turned". It appears to be one of the earliest collaborations between Jerry and his then- (or soon-to-be) wife Judy Henske. It was recorded probably in 1966 and released on Dunhill that year or early '67, thereby predating FAREWELL ALDEBARAN by at least a couple of years. And although the track seems to have been the B side ("Sound of Summer Showers" seems to have been the A side), it appears on at least 2 CD compilations, one from Japan, the other issued in both the US and UK. Here is the raw data and a website reference: Jerry Yester (Dunhill-D-4042) 1966 Side A The Sound Of Summer Showers (Erik Jacbsen) Side B Ashes Have Turned (Jerry Yester-Judy Henske Yester) Produced by Erik Jacobsen Arranged by Jerry Yester Guitar : Jerry Yester Recorder on Summer Showers: Jerry Yester Artie Butler : Piano Drum: unknown Bass: unknown Vocal & Background vocals on Ashes Have Turned: Jerry Yester Penny Arcade, Dunhill Folk Rock, Vol. 2 (Big Beat WIK 77) 1988 Side One 1. The Iguanas - This Is What I Was Made For 2. The Grass Roots - Let's Live For Today 3. Willie and The Wheels - Skateboard Craze 4. Mamas and Papas - Strange Young Girls 5. Barry McGuire - This Precious Time 6. MFQ - Don't You Wonder 7. Terry Black - How Many Girls 8. Jerry Yester - Ashes Have Turned Side Two 1. MFQ - Night Time Girl 2. Thomas Group - Penny Arcade 3. Hal Blaine - Secret Agent Man 4. Mamas and Papas - No Salt On Her Tail 5. Barry McGuire - California Dreamin 6. The Grass Roots - You're A Lonely Girl 7. The Lamp of Childhood - No More Running Around 8. Jerry Yester - I Can Live Without You CD "SOUND OF SUMMER SHOWERS" MCA Victor MVCM-387, Japan '93 California dreamin' - Mamas & Papas / I had a dream last night - MFQ / Don't you wonder - MFQ / Sound of summer showers - Jerry Yester / Ashes have turned - Jerry Yester / Younger girl - Critters / Mr. dieingly sad - Critters / From a distance - P.F. Sloan / I found a girl - P.F. Sloan / The sins of a family - P.F. Sloan / Eve of destruction * - Barry McGuire / Season of the witch - Lamp Of Childhood / I can live without you - Jerry Yester / Garden of imagining - Jerry Yester / Night time girl - MFQ / Sunflower, sunflower - P.F. Sloan / A melody for you - P.F. Sloan / Ordinary girl * - Terry Black / No more turning around - Lamp Of Childhood / I'd wait a million years - Grassroots / Don't pull your love - Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds / Tracy - Cufflinks / Bad misunderstanding - Critters / Marryin' kind of love - Critters / Incense and peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock / Dedicated to the one I love - Mamas & Papas / Dream a little dream with me - Mama Cass / Twelve Thirty - Mamas & Papas kjm in la -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Hanes Subject: Re: Two Dolphin labels / The Ventures Me: > Actually, the Ventures, Walk Don't Run was on Dolphin in the > first place and changed to Dolton in mid run, I think! Was > there a Ventures release before WDR? It seems like there was, > but I sold off all my Ventures 45s and don't remember if there > was a second Ventures on Dophin. Mikey: > This is incorrect. "Walk Dont Run" was first released on Blue > Horizon Records, which was owned by guitarist Don Wilson and his > mom, Joise. Dolton Records bought WDR from them, and it NEVER > appeared on a Dolphin label. My mistake, I apologize. I did admit that I was probably wrong in my first post though, so I apparently knew I was full of horsefeathers. Blue Horizon! Yeah! It was a lovely looking label, as was the Dolphin label as well Thanks again for the correction Mikey! The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, Church of the Harmonic Overdub -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:09:21 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Re: Talk about / Morricone, etc. Hi Everybody. Much thanks to Steve Crump for the information about Mina's songs in English. I know all the songs by Mina you mention in your message, but I didn´t know the UK and American LPs you cite. Could you please tell me what are the four exclusive themes included in the Regalia record?. I´ve never heard the song "L'Amore Gira" by Rosy, that you cite in your message. I´ll try to find it. Refering to Morricone work for RCA in the early sixties, I love particularly the way he uses the strings, usually with a lot of aggression. Some sixties songs arranged by Morricone that I like very much are Mina's "Se telefonando" (1966) which is wonderfully dizzy, and Luigi Tenco's very moving "Quello que conta"(1962). Also, almost every movie soundtrack that he created in the sixties for Italian B movies had many great moments, but that is another subject. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:28:34 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett Bill: > So are you arguing that anything that sells is good? I > have some Celine Dion and Mariah Carey CDs I'll sell you > .... :) No, I would never make that argument. I don't really think there is much recorded in the last 25 or so years that I would constitute as being good. What I'm saying is that a "raw" sound is not necessarily the most commercial. I learned in a sociology class in high school that matters of taste can never be argued. My taste is towards ultra-commercial, over-produced pop. Personally, I don't care for Elvis until his late 60s Memphis recordings. For my taste, the more orchestration, the better. I'm not saying that there aren't great songs without it, only that those songs would sound even better (to me) with it. Look for the name Al Capps on a record and you can rarely go wrong! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:31:50 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Chris Subject: Re: Clairifyin' Alan Gordon: > Maybe I'm just not a good enough poet, but words don't > adequately describe those feelings for me, not even when > uttered by poets like Carole King, or Jackson Browne, or > Shakespeare, or Rainier Rilke, or Lao Tsu. Isn't the point where words fail a perfectly legitimate, and even traditional, theme for poets and lyricists? As in ... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Oh how short speech falls, and how feeble "for my conception which, after what I saw, "cannot even be described as 'little.' "O light eternal who in yourself alone "abide, and alone know yourself and, known "to yourself, love and smile on yourself!" [ -- Dante Alighieri "Paradiso," Canto XXXIII (W.S. Merwin version)] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Oh, dear! If I could only say what I mean, "That is, if I could mean what I say, "That is, I mean to say that "I mean to say that ..." [E.Y. Harburg "I Like The Likes of You"] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "You're much too much "And just too 'very very' "To ever be in Webster's Dictionary" [Johnny Mercer "Too Marvellous For Words"] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Not, of course, that I ever thought to see Jackson Browne equated with Rainer Maria Rilke ... Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:25:22 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Bad Lines/So Lonely Mike McKay wrote: > How about when you address TWO DIFFERENT people as "you" > in the course of one verse of the same song?! Witness > "So Lonely" by The Hollies I totally forgot about that one! It always did bother me how they kept switching like that, as if they couldn't make up their minds just what this song was supposed to be about. I know the Everly Brothers did a cover of this--produced by The Hollies, right?-- but I haven't heard it. Did Don and Phil change the lyrics? I always loved the 12-string guitar on this Hollies track, but the lyrics are so poor that I never could truly enjoy it. S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:34:52 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: Orpheus Question for the Orpheus fans, which there are obviously a few on here: I have the double CD that came out in England years ago. Is it missing any essential songs? I know it doesn't have a great deal of the last album on Bell but from what I've been told that wasn't really the full group at that point and they had a different sound. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:36:19 -0000 From: Julio Niño Subject: Sex and Food Paul Bryan wrote: > "Well, the Association was not the first to make a connection > between food and sex - I believe Sigmund Freud has whole > chapters on the subject. But the definitive food/sex song has > got to be one of my fave 1965 hits, Bread and Butter by the > Newbeats...". Although it may seem incredible,the food/sex connection probably has its foundation in Biology. According to the biologist Lynn Margulis, sexuality (in the sense of the fusion of genes from distinct individuals) probably comes from cannabalism between micro-organisms that after devouring their own kind suffered some sort of indigestion and so were left the duplicated genes. Then separating again in two parts and becoming fully functional genes. At least in Castillian (Spanish), I don't know if in English, there are a lot of expressions associating sex and food, for example: to be good/well (estar bueno/a) or to be to eat him/her (estar para comérselo) equally express the idea of being sexually and gastronomically tempting or desirable, etc., etc. A song that plays to perfection with this subject is "The Sucettes" (S. Gainsbourg) by France Gall, 1966, otherwise known as the perverse naive girl, a track about sucking on sweets (candies) that has clear connotations with oral sex. Julio Niño. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:27:22 -0000 From: S.J. Dibai Subject: Re: Rokes / Yardbirds C. Ponti wrote: > Remember gli Rokes? In around '66 I was in Italy and was > really taken by their version of "(La la la la la la) Live > For Today", originally by the Yardbirds. I often wondered, > did the Rokes lease the track and put their vocals on it? > Because the track is identical to the Yarbirds' original. The Yardbirds? Really? I've never read or heard anything about that, and believe me, I am well informed about The Yardbirds! Can you give me any info on the Yardbirds' version? S.J. Dibai -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:07:05 EST From: John Berg Subject: Re: Neighb'rhood Childr'n / Phil's Spectre / Clydie King Neighborhood Children were actually from Oregon, but you are certainly right that the CD/LP (on Sundazed) is great. Their version of Louie Louie is totally different from anybody else's and alone worth the CD price. John Berg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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