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Spectropop - Digest Number 1174

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Puckett / Wexler / more Worst Lyrics
           From: Bill Craig 
      2. The Lovin' Spoonful
           From: Vince 
      3. Re: Austin Roberts
           From: Austin Roberts 
      4. Re: Snuff Garrett
           From: Phil Milstein 
      5. Re: Billy West/Lovin' Spoonful
           From: Kevin 
      6. Worst rhymes
           From: Doug Morris 
      7. Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts?
           From: Austin Roberts 
      8. In defence of Frankie.
           From: Simon White 
      9. Re: more Worst Lyrics
           From: Mike McKay 
     10. Re: Lovin' Spoonful
           From: Mike McKay 
     11. Re; It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby
           From: Jan Kristensen 
     12. Chanson D'Amour; hot dates; Jewhoo
           From: Country Paul 
     13. Re: Everything is Everything
           From: Mike McKay 
     14. Re. Crooners
           From: A. Zweig 
     15. Re: other stuff - "Witchi Tai To"
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     16. Re: Best line in a song
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     17. Snuff Garrett & "Strings"
           From: Bob 
     18. Re: Line I'd rather la to
           From: Tom Taber 
     19. Re: Coke ads @ Musica
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     20. Dave Kapralik/Ken Willliams
           From: Christopher Lalor 
     21. SONY/BMG
           From: Don Charles 
     22. Re: Fiesta Records
           From: Don Charles 
     23. Re: Lovin Spoonful
           From: C Pontidue 
     24. Re: good lyrics
           From: Rex Strother 
     25. dawn of rocknroll
           From: Phil Milstein 

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:54:07 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: Puckett / Wexler / more Worst Lyrics Phil Milstein wrote: > My nomination for Worst Lyrics Ever goes to any of several by > Jim "Poet Laureate of Rocknroll" Morrison. The worst of a bad > lot has to be "Riders On The Storm," a lyric you cannot convince > me took him more than five minutes to complete: > > Riders on the storm > Into this house we're born > Into this world we're thrown > Like a dog without a bone > An actor out alone > Riders on the storm I always thought the line was: "an actor out on loan" (like from one studio to another, Jimbo was a cinema major). Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:41:31 -0000 From: Vince Subject: The Lovin' Spoonful As of late, The Lovin' Spoonful consists of Joe Butler (now lead vocals and autoharp), Steve Boone (still on bass), Jerry Yester (guitar and keyboards), Mike Arturi (drums), and Phil Smith (guitar). Don't know anything about the last 2 guys, but I assume this is as close you're going to get to an original line up. As for John Sebastian and the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame performance, I believe that his voice was shot due to a throat infection; besides, I read in MOJO that they didn't want to play as a band per se, but more like a jug band. But the powers that be that run these things thought that nobody would want to see that and that they should "just play the hits". I am more and more inclined to believe that the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is nothing short of a scam. Even when they give someone their due they still manage to screw things up. You can go to The Lovin'Spoonful website and see when they will be performing in your town or on your next cruise. Kudos by the way to Sundazed and BMG for re-issuing the Spoonful's back catalog on vinyl and expanded CDs with upgraded sound. They sound better than the Japanese box set of everything they put out. Has anyone got The Hollies new 6 cd box set "The Long Road Home"? How is it? Is it worth the close to $100 price tag? Ciao, Vince -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:47:34 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Austin Roberts Mark wrote: > Finally, I'd like to welcome Austin Roberts to the list. I've always > enjoyed the songs you co-wrote for the Partridge Family and also your > hits "Something's Wrong With Me" and "Rocky". > > I was quite surprised some time ago when the local country station at > the time, WHK-AM, played a song by a group called the Shoppe called "Why > Doesn't Anybody Get High on Love Anymore?", and I saw the song in the > record store and noticed the writer creds on this tune: Johnny Cymbal > and Austin Roberts! It wasn't that bad of a tune, and I'm kicking myself > for not picking it up at the time. Hey Mark, Thanks for the welcome. The Shoppe record was around 1981, I think. Cymbal and I were both living in Nashville at the time and when we wrote together it was usually country. I always thought Johnny could've been a great country singer. Great feeling for a lyric, plus he was funny as hell (not that that has much to do with being a country singer, but it makes being around him a lot of fun). Five of us in Nashville used to play poker once a month (small stakes), including Johnny and myself. When Johnny died, we'd invite a different fifth player to each game and leave a sixth chair empty for Johnny. He was a great friend. Take care, Austin Roberts -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:57:57 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett Bill George wrote: > True, he made some classics, but many of the records > he produced would have been much better left alone. Y'mean like Gary Lewis? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Subject: Re: Billy West/Lovin' Spoonful Mark wrote: > Billy West (formerly of the Howard Stern Show, and one of the > voices on Ren & Stimpy and also the voice of Bugs Bunny in > "Space Jam") is the new Shaggy voice. Billy West? I love him on FUTURAMA! > According to an article some time ago in Disc-Coveries, both Steve > Boone and Joe Butler are still members of the Spoonful. I don't > remember any info about the other three people currently serving > in the group, but they did release a live CD a while back on Varese > Vintage. The current lineup of the Lovin Spoonful does indeed still include Joe Butler (now on autoharp) and Steve Boone (still on bass), and it also includes the fabulous Jerry Yester (brother to Jim of the Association and an original member of the Spectorrific Modern Folk Quartet). Jerry actually joined the LS wa-a-ay back in, like, 1967, to replace Zally, who had to leave the country due to some unfortunate business with John Law. Jerry Yester is, if memory serves, on the LS tune "Six O'Clock" and the LP REVELATION/REVOLUTION 69. The other members' names can be found at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:13:47 -0800 From: Doug Morris Subject: Worst rhymes I know this is a little outside the realm of Spectropop, but it is remarkably egregious nonetheless: I went from Phoenix, Arizona All the way to Tacoma. >From the Steve Miller Band's "Rockin' Me" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:34:11 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts? Thanks for the welcome, Bobster. There are a lot of knowledgeable and fun people and I'm finding out a lot of new things about this business I've been in for 35 years. Glad you liked "Boo On You". That one almost happened. Best, Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:32:02 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: In defence of Frankie. Re: Frankie Vaughan - While is easy to see Frankie as a showbiz crooner with a large portion of cheese, I do believe he was aware of that image and played his role with his tongue firmly in his cheek. His cover of "Tower Of Strength" is great and his classic version of "Green Door" is enough to shut out any doubts on his greatness. If you get the chance to hear it, his song "Rachel", a great big over the top rolling tour de force is well worth the effort. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:09:11 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: more Worst Lyrics Phil Milstein wrote: > My nomination for Worst Lyrics Ever goes to any of several by Jim "Poet > Laureate of Rocknroll" Morrison. The worst of a bad lot has to be > "Riders On The Storm," a lyric you cannot convince me took him more than > five minutes to complete: > > Riders on the storm > Into this house we're born > Into this world we're thrown > Like a dog without a bone > An actor out alone > Riders on the storm Not that this is going to alter your overall view of these lyrics, Phil, but the penultimate line above is actually "An actor out on loan." I always thought that was at least somewhat clever! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:33:01 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Lovin' Spoonful David Coyle wrote: > It is kind of a shame that John Sebastian isn't involved with the > current lineup of the Lovin' Spoonful. This is by John Sebastian's choice. As far as I know, he doesn't have a problem with the others carrying on with the group...he simply has no interest in being a part of it. > Wonder how many people in the audience realized that wasn't him singing > and playing the Autoharp. It almost kind of looks like an older JB if > you squint or have macularly degenerated. Otherwise... I didn't see the show, but my understanding is that drummer Joe Butler moved out from behind the skins and does most of the lead vocals for the band now. Not sure how he pulls it off; Butler actually has a very good voice (I always loved "Butchie's Tune" and the other Spoonful tracks he sang lead on), but it's nothing like Sebastian's. Also caught something on the news just the other day that there was some sort of ugly incident between Joe and his daughter the actress (I have no idea of her name, but she's somewhat well-known) at his house recently. Police were called, etc., I believe. > It also doesn't help that Zal Yanovsky's dead. His guitar sound and > personality was probably half the band. The Spoonful would have meant little without Sebastian's great songs, but I agree that Zally's contributions to the band, musical and otherwise, were considerable. And yes, he was a VERY underrated guitarist. It was a kick for me to see that, in the all-star jam on "Route 66" following the Spoonful's RRHOF induction, Zal acquitted himself very well indeed on his solo. > But if you remember the Spoonful reunion for the Rock and Roll Hall Of > Fame induction, it may be better that Sebastian isn't singing with them. > I just hope it was a bad night for his voice... Actually, John has suffered for quite some time from a disease of some sort that has pretty well ravaged his voice. I read the specifics of it a while ago but don't recall the details. But this goes back to at least the late 80s; back before I knew her, my wife saw a John solo show in 1988 and said his voice was shot then. On the other hand, I've heard it said that when John performs with his jug band outfit, The J Band, his voice is fine. Perhaps there's a psychological component to it? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:05:48 +0100 From: Jan Kristensen Subject: Re; It all began when Ronnie sang Be My Baby John Love wrote: > As one who was there at the time, and who never tires of > listening to the Ronettes' recordings 40 years on, I think that > describing Ronnie as a rock star at all, let alone the first > [Connie Francis, Brenda Lee, Darlene Love (?)....] is going a > bit far....... In my book the first female Rock'n'roller was Janis Martin followed close by Jo Ann Campbell. Great rockers both. Wanda Jackson was also quite good, but her heart was in country music. Jan K -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:04:55 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Chanson D'Amour; hot dates; Jewhoo Stuart Miller: > "Lucky Ladybug" by Crewe/Slay. Sung by the 4 Seasons. Maybe. Art Longmire: > I thought it was a song by Art and Dottie Todd - whose title I > cannot for the life of me remember. Art & Dotty Todd's biggest hit was on Era, "Chanson D'Amour," with the famous "rat-da-dat-da-dah" which became souch a signature hook that almost every record they followed up with had some variation of it. Sadly, clinging to the need for this kind of hook ruined some otherwise lovely performances; they had a gorgeous vocal blend, which I believe was each of them overdubbed into some very rich four-part harmony. They even did some teen-sounding stuff; fine their very pretty "Wait For Me," the flip of their smaller hit "Say You" on Dart. Dotty just died a year or so back at age 76. Some here have mentioned that Art & Dotty Todd were Bill & Doree Post. Really? I thought the Posts' song, "Valley High" on Crest, was really sweet. A independent record promoter friend, "Heavy Lenny," one of the last honest men in the business, sends out dispatches of random information for his radio contacts to use on their shows. Some daily events are of more interest than others. December 14th was a big one for music people. >From his list [bracketed remarks are mine]: Birthdays: 1911 Spike Jones, Long Beach CA, composer (Cocktails for Two) 1929 Ron Nelson, composer [classical - I knew him when he was the head of the Music Department at Brown University while I was a student there] 1932 Abbe Lane, Brooklyn NY, aka Mrs. Xavier Cugat, singer (Xavier Cugat Show) 1932 Charlie "Silver Fox" Rich, Colt AR, singer (Behind Closed Doors) 1946 Patty Duke [Anna Marie], Elmhurst NY, actress (Miracle Worker) 1946 Jackie McCauley, North Ireland, rock pianist (Them Coleraine) 1946 Jane Birkin, London England, actress [and heavy breather] (Mrs Don Juan, Dark Places, Dust) Died: 1963 Dinah Washington, singer, dies of sleeping pill overdose at 39 On this day: 1961 Jimmy Dean's "Big Bad John" is 1st country song to get a gold record 1969 Jackson Five made their 1st appearance on "Ed Sullivan Show" 1977 "Saturday Night Fever", starring John Travolta, premieres in New York, NY Larry Lapka, re: Jewishness and Hanukkah, there is a site, which gives great coverage to Jews in Rock; worth checking out. It's how I got into a brief e-mail conversation with Norman Greenbaum, purveyor of "Spirit In The Sky," the superb pop-gospel song. (If you like the song, find the album that goes with it; I remember it being very good to excellent overall. One track in particular, "Alice Bodine," is a 6/8 minor key rocker; something very Jewish about its feeling, although certainly no specific references.) For a more general overview of Jews in Rock, I commend you to the article "Rock of Ages: Pop Stars Sing Out About Their Judaism," posted at And I'll wish everyone Happy Hanukkah when it begins on Friday night. Short takes: For the "great lines in rock" thread: "In the land of a thousand dances / I danced with you" --Van Morrison Mark, re: Steve Tudanger: > Who is this guy? I have 2 singles of his, one on Big Tree and > I don't remember the other label. Was he in the Distant Cousins on DynoVoice as well as the Four-Evers? Apologies to Steve Harvey for misreading his take on Frank Zappa. As with many artistic folks, I don't love everything he did, but I love that he did everything he did. (And with Zappa, there's quite a bit worth loving.) Seven (!) more digests from Thursday through Sunday - we ARE a prolific group, aren't we? :-) Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:16:12 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Everything is Everything Mark wrote: > Art Longmire: you mentioned that Jim Pepper was a member of Everything > is Everything. I'm not so sure about that - my understanding is that > there were two versions of "Witchi-Tai-To" that competed for audience > attention. One was by Everything is Everything (on the Vanguard > Apostolic label), the other by Jim Pepper's Pow-Wow (on the Atlantic > subsid Embryo). Jim Pepper WAS a member of Everything is Everything. Their original "Witchi-Tai-To" was released in late '68/early '69. The subsequent version of this song was released in 1971 by Jim Pepper as a solo artist. "Pepper's Pow-Wow" was actually the name of the album it appeared on, not the artist name. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:05:08 -0500 From: A. Zweig Subject: Re. Crooners Ken Silverwood wrote: > My understanding of a "crooner" is someone who sleepwalks through the > material, devoid of any emotion whatsoever. I first heard the term in > reference to Bing Crosby & after that any besuited balladier. On SCTV, Rick Moranis used to do an imitation of Perry Como not just sleepwalking through his songs but actually falling asleep halfway into the song. But your description of crooning is definitely not my understanding of the term. And I've actually been surprised by the occasional anti-crooning shot I've read on this list. The way I see it, there's two ways to look at the term "crooners". You can take it as a category. Bing Crosby, Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Mel Torme, Tony Bennett, Andy Williams, Jack Jones, (the great) Matt Monro etc... are crooners because they were called crooners. In the era in which they were most active, big band singers, pop singers, even jazz singers who sang standards in front of big orchestras were often called crooners. And in that sense, there are a few modern crooners. This new kid Michael Bublie. This kid Peter whose last name is something like Cincimotti. Maybe Harry Connick. They're singing in the style of the crooners and often singing very similar material. There's another way to look at crooners though. Instead of just a musical category, it could be seen as a style of singing that isn't tied to a certain period or certain material. In that sense, Scott Walker is certainly a crooner. Maybe Paul Young was a bit of a crooner. I've heard some people make the argument thatn Nick Cave is a crooner. Personally I tend to use the word crooner in the first sense. If it sounds like Matt Monro and the orchestra sounds like Nelson Riddle, it's a crooner. And yes I hated all of them when I was a teenager in the sixties. But now I love most of them and I think that a good song, well sung and well arranged is a pleasure no matter what associations you have with the singer. Andy Williams does a beautiful job of "God Only Knows" among many many examples. AZ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:37:42 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: other stuff - "Witchi Tai To" Mark : > Art Longmire: you mentioned that Jim Pepper was a member > of Everything is Everything. I'm not so sure about that - > my understanding is that there were two versions of > "Witchi-Tai-To" that competed for audience attention. > One was by Everything is Everything (on the Vanguard > Apostolic label), the other by Jim Pepper's Pow-Wow (on > the Atlantic subsid Embryo). Bonjour de France Jim Pepper was first in 1967 in Free Spirits (with Chris Hills & Larry Coryell) then in 1968/69 in the first line-up of Everything is Everything (with Danny Weiss and Chris Hills), then circa 1970 formed Pepper's Pow Wow for the album released in 1971 on Embryo (with Larry Coryell & Chuck Rainey). I believe that the two first recorded versions were by Everything is Everything & Harpers' Bizarre. Inspired by a religious Peyote chant from the Kaw tribe, "Witchi Tai To" was recorded by many groups. Here are the ones I know: - 1969, Everything is Everything (released as a single in 1968/69, and LP "Everything is Everything"), - 1969, Harpers' Bizarre (single : Knock On Wood/Witchi Tai To in 1969, and LP "4") - 1969/70, Brewer and Shipley (1969, LP "Weeds") - 1970, "Topo D.Bill" (England, with members of the Bonzo Dog Band), single on Charisma in UK and Motors Records in France - 1971, Pepper's Pow Wow (Embryo Lp) - 1972?, Robert Charlebois (LP : "Solidaritude") - 1972,John Schroeder (LP "Witchi Tai To" on Pye, UK) - 1974 by Jan Garbarek (LP "Witchi Tai To" on ECM). - 1983, Jim Pepper (singles and LP on Antilles/Island & Europa) - 1983, Tom Grant (LP "Tom Grant") - 2001, Inner Voices (CD: "Prairie Jazz") - 2001, Tom Grant (CD "Reprise, new version) Additions/corrections welcome! There's a good article on Pepper here: Stephane -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:28:11 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Best line in a song Harold writes: > "Ain't but three things in this world that's worth a solitary dime, > But old dogs and children and watermelon wine." I second that emotion. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:35:19 -0000 From: Bob Subject: Snuff Garrett & "Strings" Bill George wrote: > Gee, whenever I see his name [Snuff Garrett], I think of > great rock and roll records nearly ruined with string > orchestras. True, he made some classics, but many of the > records he produced would have been much better left alone. Bill, I have to disagree with you on this one! As for Snuff's Bobby Vee productions, he told me in one of our many conversations that he was taking Bobby where Buddy Holly was going right before his untimely death. Buddy's last session in New York was with a full orchestra and sounded great. Snuff was inspired by this. He took Vee to Clovis to record at Norman Petty's Studios with the intention of doing one side of the album rock and the other side with the orchestra (Snuff called it a "dreamy side"). When they got back to LA to do the session with the full orchestra, Snuff was so pleased with the sounds he was getting, he scrapped the Clovis tracks and did the entire LP with strings. Let's face it, you can't argue with success. Vee was the biggest selling artist of all time for Liberty Records and Snuff was getting paid to produce records that would sell. Interestingly enough, the rhythm section used by Snuff in virtually all of Bobby Vee sessions consisted of Earl Palmer or Jerry Allison (or both) on drums, Gene Garf or Ernie Freeman on piano, guitars were Tommy Allsup, Howard Roberts, Barney Kessel, and later, Glen Campbell and Tommy Tedesco. Stand up bass was Red Callender. As you can see there were no slouches in this crew! Snuff would use the best people around to make his records and it showed. Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:30:30 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Taber Subject: Re: Line I'd rather la to Ken Silverwood wrote: > All this chat about good lines and bad rhymes set me > a thinking about the line in Neil Sedaka's "Calendar > Girl". It goes: "April - you're the Easter bunny when > you smile". I always la-la that line. What an image!! For over thirty years now, I've had to change stations on the car radio when "Calendar Girl" comes on, for fear my girlfriend/wife would jump out of the vehicle if she heard that line again. Anyone consider a list of songs with the STUPIDEST sentiments? Two come to mind - "Everybody" by Tommy Roe - if when "you lose somebody you love" "that's no reason for you to break down and cry!" Well, what do you save crying for - when supper's a little cold maybe? Or how about the Beatles "She's Leaving Home" - "Fun is the one thing that money can't buy". Shoulda stuck with "can't buy me love". Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:29:38 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Coke ads @ Musica Various: > Mike, please put me on the list! Next upload, you got it! Thanks -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:44:09 -0000 From: Christopher Lalor Subject: Dave Kapralik/Ken Willliams Hi I've just joined this group. I read a mail from Artie Wayne. Artie any idea where Dave Kapralik is nowadays ? Also Ken Williams, they worked together on Columbia Records. In August I organised a re-union of the original members of the New Jersey group "The Spellbinders" this group had some minor chart success in the 60s with van McCoy produced and arranged material. Any information where I can find these two people much appreciated. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:40:44 +0000 From: Don Charles Subject: SONY/BMG Heads up on this quote from Reuters News Service: "Sony, Bertelsmann sign music merger deal BERLIN/NEW YORK: Germany’s Bertelsmann AG and Sony of Japan on Friday finalised terms of an agreement to merge their music businesses, as the industry confronts competition from DVDs and video games and the threat of Internet file-swapping. The 50-50 joint venture, first announced in November, would be the world’s second-largest record label, combining the recorded music units of Bertelsmann’s BMG and Sony Music, but excluding music publishing and CD production. The deal depends on regulatory approval in the United States and Europe." Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Will the monster record companies produce a lovable Baby Dumbo or an evil Mechagodzilla? Also, how do mergers of this kind affect track licensing? Don "Stuffed Animal" Charles -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:46:07 -0000 From: Don Charles Subject: Re: Fiesta Records Boxer Guy wrote: > Hey there, Stuffed Animal. > You posted back in July about the Fiesta record company and > Jose Morand. What information were you looking for? I might > be able to assist you. Latin moves. Unable to access your email address. Please post what information you have to Spectropop! Since Fiesta Records was the Brill Building's very own Latin music label, it should be more or less of interest to everyone here. Don "Stuffed Animal" Charles -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:49:57 -0000 From: C Pontidue Subject: Re: Lovin Spoonful David Coyle wrote: > It is kind of a shame that John Sebastian isn't > involved with the current lineup of the Lovin' > Spoonful. Wonder how many people in the audience > realized that wasn't him singing and playing the > Autoharp. It almost kind of looks like an older JB if > you squint or have macularly degenerated. Otherwise... That was Joe Butler, original drummer for the group, playing autoharp. When Joe and Steve, (the orig. bassist) reformed shards of the group, John and Zal chose not to participate. Zal was busy with a successful restaurant in Toronto and family responsibilities. John didn't want to compromaise the band's reputation with any less than stellar representation at little venues. He pursues his solo career. Jerry Yester, who replaced Zally when the band lost him in around 1969, has rejoined. He is the brother of Jim Yester from The Association. Jerry was also a prime writer on the final real Spoonful album, EVERYTHING PLAYING. He plays keyboards.As these things go, there are more original members in this Spoonful than in many of the doo-wop or one hit wonder bands. Unfortunately, the two members it lacks are the ones who gave it its "magic". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:53:15 -0700 From: Rex Strother Subject: Re: good lyrics Elvis Costello - DJ James, I second that: "The long arm of the law slides up the outskirts of town" - Clubland (Elvis Costello) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:53 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: dawn of rocknroll Apropos of a thread we've touched on from time to time here, Morgan Wright offers a wonderful and iconoclastic essay on the origins of rocknroll on his "Hoy Hoy" website: According to Wright the phrase itself began in the 17th century, as a nautical term! One slight addendum to the piece is the fact that the term "rhythm & blues" was originally coined by Jerry Wexler. In his autobiography, "The Rhythm And The Blues", he discusses how c.1948 he was working as a reporter at Billboard, and he was assigned to rename the Race Music chart. Not having been there at the time I can't quite verify the claim, but I've never heard it refuted. Anyhoo, the book is one of the best music biz bios I've yet read, and it's not even by a musician. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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