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Spectropop - Digest Number 1170

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Garry Bonner's Me About You @ Musica
           From: Patrick Beckers 
      2. Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts?
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      3. Re: Casey Kasem
           From: Alan Haber 
      4. Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song?
           From: Rob Stride 
      5. Re: Casey Kasem
           From: Rob Stride 
      6. Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song?
           From: Paul Bryant 
      7. Re: Solomon Burke / Tom Wilson
           From: Art Longmire 
      8. Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song?
           From: Michael 
      9. Re....Rainy Day discog additions...
           From: Marty 
     10. Re: Coke ads and gay songs.
           From: Julio Niņo 
     11. Re: The Duprees' Around The Corner
           From: superoldies 
     12. Re: Casey Kasem
           From: JB 
     13. Re: Crooners
           From: Paul Bryant 
     14. Re; Zager & Evans
           From: Doug 
     15. Re: Coke ads @ Musica
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     16. Austin Roberts
           From: Orion 
     17. Re: Best line in a song
           From: Dan Hughes 
     18. Dawn Eden
           From: Mikey 
     19. Re: Jim Doval & The Gauchos
           From: James Holvay 
     20. Re: Best line in a song
           From: Chris 
     21. Re: Peak postion vs staying power
           From: Dan Hughes 
     22. Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts?
           From: Austin Roberts 
     23. Re: Snuff Garrett
           From: James Holvay 
     24. Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song?
           From: Simon White 
     25. Re: Viva
           From: Jules Normington 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:52:40 +0100 From: Patrick Beckers Subject: Garry Bonner's Me About You @ Musica As requested a few days ago, I have just uploaded Garry Bonner's version of Me About You from 1968 to the Musica section. Sorry it took a while to upload the file, but there wasn't any space available in the past couple of days. Enjoy! Patrick Beckers -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:16 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts? Mark: > Wow, if that is really the great Austin Roberts, it's good to have > you on board. IMO you rank right up there with Ron Dante and Tony > Burrows as the greatest bubblegum artists of all-time. Wait till you see the songs he's written--start with I Owe You. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:44:23 -0500 From: Alan Haber Subject: Re: Casey Kasem I was just listening this morning to "The Letter U and the Numeral 2" by Negativland, which hilariously documents Casey Kasem's ignorance, ill temper and condescension to his audience. Well, it takes a lot to get me to post (this might be the second or third time ever), but this isn't the Casey Kasem I know. I interviewed him a few years ago (and subsequently met him a few times) for a major radio industry trade paper profile, and found him to be one of the most sincere, nicest people in the biz. Admittedly, his focus has always been pretty narrow, but I don't think there is a condescending bone in his body. He's the real deal. I've done a lot of radio celeb interviews in my time (met just about all of my airwave heroes, and then some), and Casey definitely ranks right up there near the top. He went way out of his way to get me photos that hadn't been run in previous profiles, always happily took my phone calls for followup questions, and even wrote a letter to my editor and publisher saying that he was putting a copy of the article in his scrapbook. A photo with him (my height vs. his lack-thereof) proudly hangs on my wall. I agree with Mr. Wirtz: Casey's the man! Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:36:11 -0000 From: Rob Stride Subject: Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song? There was one from years back and I am paraphrasing T.Rex: "You remind me of the Moon , and I liken you too a spoon". If anyone knows the exact line will you tell me as I need cheering up. Rob Stride -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:20:43 -0000 From: Rob Stride Subject: Re: Casey Kasem As a Brit I've only seen Casey once or twice. But his died black hair and woolly jumpers puzzled me as he was some sort of Pop Guru. He looked like a great uncle on Speed. Rob Stride -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:04:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song? > Watson Macblue on bad rhymes. Funniest thing I read in a long time - thanks for that! Even if I do actually like Joni's first few albums... But into the ring against Joni's jewells and schew-wells comes a big man. This guy coulda bin a contender. Here he is, in the red corner, Hurricane Carter - drum roll, cymbals ker-rash! Courtesy of Bob Dylan of course. This is from Bob's marvellous ballad called "Hurricane" which I love (was any ballad ever sung as fast as this one?) but contains the worst rhyme in rock. The police are here corrupting a witness: "You'll be doin' society a favor. That sonofabitch is brave and gettin' braver. We want to put his ass in stir We want to pin this triple mur Der on him He ain't no Gentleman Jim!" C'mon guys, top that! pb ps - Philological aside: you & me vs you & I - many Americans now write "I really like her alot" or "I bought alot of them today". Until recently I tirelessly pointed out that alot was really two words, the indefinate article plus the noun "lot". Then I gave up. Language is a constant flux. You got to go with the flow. The definition of words is what most people think they mean, even if most people are wrong. But in language, most people CAN'T be wrong. For another example see how the meaning of the word "decimate" has changed completely over time, or the word "nice". Or "gay" for that matter! pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:33:52 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: Solomon Burke / Tom Wilson Art Longmire wrote: > Speaking of masochism, I was doing some research on singer Clydie > King and came across this label scan: > Phil Milstein: > On UK Records. Wasn't that the label owned by Jonathan King? Yeah, Phil, that's Jonathan King's UK records. The only record I ever had on UK was "Rubber Bullets" by 10CC-an excellent, clever and twisted tune, although I wasn't a big fan of 10CC's later stuff. By the way, you mentioned the Solomon Burke interview on 60 Minutes in an earlier post-I caught that as well, it was very intriguing to see this great artist on national television in primetime. He gave a very articulate and sober assesment of his career with all its ups and downs (and rip-offs by the music industry in his early years). It was also good hearing from Jerry Wexler. Speaking of Tom Wilson, for some reason it's kind of hard for me to imagine him working with Connie Francis after working with such cutting-edge acts as John Coltrane, Sun Ra, Bob Dylan, the Velvet Undergound and the Mothers of Invention. Art -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:37:42 -0000 From: Michael Subject: Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song? My candidate for worst rhyme in a song comes from a tune by The Searchers, "Sho' Know A Lot About Love." Now, I know there are only a few words in the language that rhyme with the word "love." There's Of, Above, Dove, Glove, Shove. And if you don't want to use one of those, you can get away with some almost-rhymes like Tough, Rough, Stuff, Enough, Bluff, Puff, etc. But this Searchers song uses, for a rhyme, something that just does not work no matter how hard you stretch the imagination, and it's completely groan-inducing! "Don't know much about baseball Don't know much about GOLF!!! I know a lot about one thing Sho'know a lot about love." GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!! Not that it did any serious damage to what is a pretty lame song in the first place. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:17:20 -0000 From: Marty Subject: Re....Rainy Day discog additions... > I think 45-8001 was The Flying Machine, James Taylor's pre-Apple > group, and I believe the A-side was "Rainy Day Man." I have the Rainy Day #45-8001 by The Flying Machine. Here's the info per my copy: NIGHT OWL / BRIGHTEN YOUR NIGHT WITH MY DAY (Stock copy with "Night Owl" shown as the "a" side) Both sides written by James Taylor - A side arr by Trade Martin & Al Gorgoni - Prod. by Chip Taylor & Gorgoni. B side arr. by Gorgoni - Prod by Taylor & Gorgoni. Thenyouwillknowandmoreagain...Marty -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:07:58 -0000 From: Julio Niņo Subject: Re: Coke ads and gay songs. Hi Everybody, Although it´s been said many times, many ways (I must be posessed by Christmas Spirit) ... I have also liked very much the Coke ads played in Musica by Mike Rashkow. They produced that sensation of proximity that's typical of some demos, which I love. I just wanted to thank Mike for playing then in musica. On the other hand Austin Roberts asked: > OK. I missed the question on the Gay Songs thread, but I was part > of the answer. So fill me in on the original question. I think everything began with a post about Lesley Gore, that initiated a chain reaction about first, lesbian songs, and then songs with gay connotations. Julio Niņo -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:24:10 -0000 From: superoldies Subject: Re: The Duprees' Around The Corner The Duprees tune is not on legit CD, nor any boot that I've seen - I had a hard time finding a good copy on eBay - but did, restored it & it is on our station rotation @ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:57:14 EST From: JB Subject: Re: Casey Kasem The part about Casey Kasem and his ilk that most amazes me is their longevity. I grew up in the LA area and well remember hearing Casey on KRLA back in the early '60s, along with Bob Eubanks, B Mitchel Reed and other iconic DJs. BMR is long departed from this particular universe's time and space, but Eubanks is still hawking the goods on TV, as is Dick Clark and a few others who hark back even into the '50s. Clearly they led better lifestyles than most of the musicians they featured on their shows, or at least they found some elixir that has sustained their careers (and their faces!) Not to say any of them were particularly "nice guys", but at least they help us keep on keeping on as time ticks by. JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:33:58 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Crooners Country Paul; > Am I right that (Frankie) Vaughan was a major UK artist? Was > (Monty) Babson? Frankie was major up to 1963 then the Beatles did him in & not before time. He was kind of Britain's version of Dean Martin. I never heard of Monty Babson! > So what constitutes a contemporary "crooner"? Exactly - there ain't any. But in the British charts there was a steady stream of often ghastly "old-fashioned" ballads which clogged up the charts up to the early 70s (no doubt helping to keep the Association out of the top 20). I shan't bore you with a list of dreadful records, but Englebert Humperdinck is probably the chief malefactor. Not all crooning was bad - Tom Jones was pretty good in fact. And classic 50s crooning can be wonderful - can't beat Perry Como - "the day that we cheered whenever our team was scoring a touchdown the night that the floor fell out of my car when I put the clutch down" or when Dino himself breaks into Italian during "Volare" - can't beat that kind of crooning. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:47:07 -0000 From: Doug Subject: Re; Zager & Evans > I think of Zager & Evans as the poor man's Simon & Garfunkel. > I must agree... The rest of you - please don't hate me. Funny you should mention S&G, since there are a few good quotes that mention them in relation to Z&E: When Robert Christgau reviewed their album, he wrote "Zager & Evans make Simon and Garfunkel sound like Marx and Engels." And when a local newspaper writer tracked down Rick Evans in 1979 for a "where are they now" type piece, Evans had this to say: "I'm doing roots music," he laughed. "Chuck Berry, Jimmy Reed. I have no intention of recording any of this stuff, but I never liked that Simon and Garfunkel shit me and Zager were doing in the first place." I've got to get one of the Eccentrics pictures scanned so I can post it. Doug -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:53 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Coke ads @ Musica Mike Nathan: > Mike, I, too, was amazed at the quality of the compositions performed > in these Coke commercials. If you would, could you forward some to me? Thanks Mike. You're on the list! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:24:23 -0600 From: Orion Subject: Austin Roberts Mr Roberts, it is so great to see you among us. Thanks for joining an already greatly talented group of people (I don't include myself). Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:52:03 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Best line in a song Paul Hampton's "Gordon Entertaining Nightly", the saga of a legend- in-his-own-mind lounge singer who knows he's gonna hit the big time any day now, singing in a Holiday Inn: "...and I'll never forget the little people / Like you sweet folks tonight." I'm a teacher, so I love the Bob Dylan line (from Crawl Out Your Window): "He just needs you to talk / Or to hand him his chalk / Or pick it up after he throws it." And not from a real country song, but it should be (one of you guys wanna write it?): "I've been so miserable since you left me / It's almost like you're here." ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:59:29 -0500 From: Mikey Subject: Dawn Eden Michael; > Myself and Kittybeat and Dawn Eden (a name many of you know > from almost 100 CDs that feature her liner notes, such as 'The > Association, Just The Right Sound' or The Collector's Choice > Peter And Gordon compilation), will spin a fab mix of the finest > 1960s garage, psych, beat, Mod, surf and everything 'n between. Michael.....I'm an old friend od Dawn Eden. Could you shoot me her email address so that I can say hi? Thanks. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:33:39 -0800 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: Jim Doval & The Gauchos Matt wrote: > I recently watched an old episode of Shindig which featured > this group...they flat-out ROCKED and I was amused by their > Raider-like ponytails...hmm, which (or rather who) came first, > I wonder? Anyone know anything about them? In 1964, I was living in San Francisco. I saw the Gauchos at the Peppermint Tree Club in North Beach. They followed in Pat & Lolly Vegas, who had a single out called "The Robot Walk". I thought the Gauchos were pretty good. At the time, they definitely projected a unique image with the long pony tails. Also playing down the street was The Nooney Rickett Five, Sly Stewart & His Mojo Men and The Beau Brummels. It was an exciting music scene. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:34:27 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Subject: Re: Best line in a song Limiting ourselves to songs that are post-1960 ... I've always been partial to this bit from Joni Mitchell's 'The Same Situation": Still I sent up my prayer Wond'ring who was there to hear; I said "Send me somebody who's strong ... And *somewhat* sincere" Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:43:08 -0600 From: Dan Hughes Subject: Re: Peak postion vs staying power Country Paul sez: > many records that were "lower charters" have had longer life spans > as oldies than some of their larger brethren. One major reason for is that a song released by a well-known artist charts immediately, all over the nation, and reaches a good peak position quickly. But a song by a lesser-known artist may first be a local, then regional hit before it becomes a national hit. This will keep it on the lower rungs of the national chart much longer as it slowly travels across the country, but it will never get very high in the chart because it peaks in different states at different times. Look at Paul Davis' I Go Crazy, which peaked at number 7 but spent 40 weeks in the Hot 100. And Soft Cell's Tainted Love peaked at 8 but spent 43 weeks on the chart. On the other hand, Get Back by the Beatles went to number 1 but spent just 12 weeks in the Hot 100. I have no stats, but I'd bet that a lot of the lesser hits with "oldies staying power" were by previously-unknown artists who followed the one-region-at-a-time formula, keeping them from the upper reaches of the chart. ---Dan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:55:33 EST From: Austin Roberts Subject: Re: Is that THE Austin Roberts? Mark: > Wow, if that is really the great Austin Roberts, it's good to have > you on board. IMO you rank right up there with Ron Dante and Tony > Burrows as the greatest bubblegum artists of all-time. Thank you for the kind words. Yes it's me and I'm happy to be part of Spectropop and able to share stories etc. with others on here. Best to you, Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:38:46 -0800 From: James Holvay Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett > James, Snuff hasn't been in Phoenix for quite some time. He had a > stroke several years ago when he was still in LA but has completely > recovered. As I mentioned in a previous post, he lives in Sonoita, > New Mexico. As I've been involved in writing liner notes over the > last 13 years for several Bobby Vee releases, I've found it quite > informative to talk to Snuffy. He is quite a character indeed! Bob: Thanks for clarifying that. He was one of my idols (producers). -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:05:08 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Worst Rhyme In A Song? Rob Stride wrote: > And Bowie - Life On Mars: "Now the workers have struck for fame, > 'cause Lennon's on sale again" Not wanting to be toooo contentious, but has anyone ever really taken the lyrics of David "Oooh that rhymes, I'll use it" Bowie seriously? Apart from (and indeed from the same song as the previous line): "It's on America's tortured brow That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow" -- Simon Have you been, Walter? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:13:36 +1100 From: Jules Normington Subject: Re: Viva Art: > Thanks for the info on Viva, I too am interested in this label... > would the Sound Sandwich 45 you mention be titled "Apothecary's > Dream"? I have this one and it's quite good, definitely a > psychedelic nugget. I know nothing about the group, however. > Until I saw your post I was unaware that Viva had such a large > catalogue of releases. No probs Art...I'll get that scan off to you. Yes that one's the classic Sound Sandwich 45...although they did have a second on Viva ...more pop-ish, less psych...but "Apothecary Dream" is one of the true psych classics for sure (even though it's a tad off list subject matter)...and those trippy drug-reference-laden lyrics must have been pretty confrontational for any parents over-hearing it from young Johnny's bedroom at the time. Speaking alternately, of 'bad' song lyrics, Gary Puckett and the Union Gap's "Young Girl" takes the prize for the most non-PC, morally suspect or perhaps just plain naīve lyrics of all, si?...well of any HIT single, that is. Cheers, Jules -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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