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Spectropop - Digest Number 1153

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Early synths
           From: Stewart Mason 
      2. Re: Being Bootlegged
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      3. Beatles... Hollies... Needles and Pins... Tie Me Little Mouse Down, Sport
           From: ~albabe 
      4. Your input for CD release
           From: Shawn Nagy 
      5. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: Mike McKay 
      6. Re: Tom Wilson
           From: Steve Harvey 
      7. Re: Seasons In The Sun
           From: Hugo M 
      8. Beatles, Elvis, Disco, More Beatles, and The Sonny Boy
           From: ~albabe 
      9. Re: British Invasion redux
           From: John Berg 
     10. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: James Botticelli 
     11. Re: Bert Berns
           From: Jerophonic 
     12. The First Moog LP
           From: James Botticelli 
     13. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
           From: Richard Havers 
     14. Re: fivers / Sid Bernstein / disembolton
           From: Phil Milstein 
     15. Re: Beatles Christmas messages
           From: Eddy 
     16. Re: Richard Snow and GILG
           From: Richard Hattersley 
     17. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: Nick Archer 
     18. Re: Zager and Evans - One Hit Wonders?
           From: Frank 
     19. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence
           From: Jerophonic 
     20. Re: Whiter shade of Charles Brown
           From: Andres Jurak 
     21. Re: Zager and Evans - One Hit Wonders?
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     22. The Death Of The Album
           From: Don Charles 
     23. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: Lapka Larry 
     24. Bootleg - Master Use Licenses
           From: Rex Strother 
     25. Andy Kim's Birthday
           From: Laura Pinto 

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:40:41 -0800 (PST) From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Early synths Justin McDevitt says: > This got me to thinking about the first time a a > synthesizer was used in a rock oriented track. > Maxwell's Silver Hammer immediately came to mind. > However, I then had an aha experience and recalled > hearing a song by Dick Hymann and the Electric > Electics in the spring of 1969 with the title, The > Minetaur." Both of these were preceded by, among others, the Monkees' "Star Collector" and "Daily Nightly," on the album PISCES AQUARIUS CAPRICORN AND JONES LTD., released in December 1967, both of which feature synthesizers played by Paul Beaver and Mickey Dolenz. They're also trumped by the self-titled album by the United States of America, an all-synth album released on Columbia in 1968. S -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:59:22 EST From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Being Bootlegged Orion wrote: > Mike - I can understand how you feel, however I am a buyer of > some of those CDs ($10 ea. and no shipping costs) and truly I > have been able to enjoy some music that I would never have > gotten to experience. I do believe I would be hacked off, > however if I had not been told the truth as to what was being > done. ... Hmmmm. About those tapes........As I said, I'm glad > they're out there. I don't think the guy is making a ton of > money and I do think he has a true love for the music. My only issue is not being told up front what the end use was going to be. Now, as to those tapes - send $10 and I'll send you a CD. Nah, just a light attempt at humor. The Johnny Cymbal stuff is hopefully going to be available someday - I'm working on that. There are some Coke jingles that may be, or will soon be, played up to Musica. The best unreleased are some things Ms. Ellie Greenwich and I tracked in Muscle Shoals. One, a cover of "Magic Carpet Ride", was finished in NY by us together, with Billy Harner from Philly on lead - we never were able to place it. It is a very good record. Three I finished alone with a terrific singer from Newark, Jesse Henderson. I'd love them to see the light someday, but have never found a suitable outlet that was interested. Among them a down home version of Neil Diamond's "Glory Road". Maybe sometime a compilation of great unheard R&B records will be made and I'll get them out that way. Is anyone out there paying attention to this?????? (The above is an unpaid advertisement from Michael Rashkow Productions) Di la, Rashkovksy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:43:26 -0800 From: ~albabe Subject: Beatles... Hollies... Needles and Pins... Tie Me Little Mouse Down, Sport A week in Arizona and I'm all behind... well, not all behind... some front too. Let It Be.......Naked: I agree with Lou... mostly. If you like the original "Let It Be" album... then you may like the boot of Geof Emerick's mix... and the new "...Naked" is just another version. I have heard a zillion hours from those sessions. I love listening/watching a "work of art" being created/in progress. That's why I like demos, sometimes, more than the finished product. And the Let It Be movie is a great "Two Sense" experience for me. Yellow Submarine Songbook: Great new mix. If you understand how the original versions were "ping ponged" to get to the final mix, you may like the much more transparent quality of this new version of the soundtrack. Great trouble and care was (were?) taken to make these versions loyal to the originals, except without all the compression, and noise, and loss of high-fidelity that the originals suffered from because of the mixing down from one deck to another and the shitty head-room (not Max). I personally like the compression on the originals... but these are just another version of the songs I love so much. And with the sound being so clear, some songs sound like you are actually in the room with the fabs. I can even hear John breathing on "Hey Bulldog." Hollies Style: I wish someone would release definitive albums of their earliest material. The Sundazed releases from their middle career are nice, but someone needs to do something like what Castle did to the first Kinks' albums, with all those singles and extra tracks. Shawn, re. commercials needed: Email me off group. Great site, by the way. Chris, re. "Needles And Pins": > And has anyone remarked how harmonically monotonous "Needles and > Pins" is? Even compared to, say, "It's My Party"? You think "Needles..." is monotonous? Man, I love that toon. I did that in a band, in a "Heartbreakers" style, years before the Heartbreakers did it with Stevie. It lends itself to "New Wave" real nice. Bob Rashkow, re. Italian Mice: > I thought it was Lou Monte who brought Pepino, his "novelty", on > Ed Sullivan... Rolf Harris would more likely have been featured > with a kangaroo or a koala. Sheesh, sorry. Of course you're right. I guess my novelty song remembrances are only dwarfed by my amazing good looks... ahem. As a certain wabbit, wiser than I would say: "Ehhhh, what a maroon." But the real mouse was Topo Gigio anyway. But I do have both those singles in their original picture sleeves. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:21:22 -0000 From: Shawn Nagy Subject: Your input for CD release is currently working with Ace Records of England for an upcoming "SuperOldies" collectors series. Featuring 1955-1963 US obscurities, I'm hoping some of YOU will write with some recommendations for tracks within this time frame that have NOT appeared on CD before, or at least off the masters. I am in the process of hunting masters down, and I'll be sure to check into your ideas. Send group/track title/label - '55 to 1963 only. If you've seen Ace's "Golden Age Of Rock & Roll Series" you'll know they contain some impossible to find tracks, sounding pristine off master tapes, most on CD for the first time. At 30 tracks, I could use some ideas! Be sure to check out the Insider Column on our site to see why your local radio station is playing the same junk all the time. Season's Greetings, Shawn Nagy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:40:01 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Richard Havers wrote: > The Byrds played the second day of Monterey (June17). Four > days later they were in the studio with Gary Usher recording > 'Old John Robertson', which I'm pretty sure has no moog. On > August 16 they cut the brilliant 'Tribal Gathering' (no moog) > and 'Dolphin's Smile' which I'd wager had moog on the opening > section. If you're referring to the bubbling, "oceanic" sounds at the beginning of "Dolphin's Smile," Roger McGuinn has confirmed what I always suspected: they were produced by him rapidly tapping his electric guitar strings against the neck. > Two months later they did 'Moog Raga', which didn't make the > album and at the end of November 'Natural Harmony' which also > has moog. 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers' came out in early 1968. There was a detailed discussion in the Byrds newsgroup a few years back about whether the trumpet parts in NBB's opening track, "Artificial Energy," were in fact played on the Moog (they always sounded that way to me). IIRC, the final verdict (possibly via Chris Hillman) was that it was a combination of Moog and real trumpets. One thing is certain: the Moog is used prominently on NBB's closing track, "Space Odessey." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:48:39 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Tom Wilson Alan V Karr wrote: > Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on > "The Sound of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of > Silence" LP era tracks? No, Lou Reed was cranking out teen fodder at the time Tom Wilson was reinventing Tom and Jerry. Studio cats. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:34:32 -0000 From: Hugo M Subject: Re: Seasons In The Sun I see people referring to this as a song by Rod McKuen/Jacques Brel; I'd like to point out that it's not a song the two COLLABORATED on, but rather a song by Brel that McKuen adapted/ translated. There's an entirely different adaptation/version in English credited to Eric Blau/J Brel. He's the guy who assembled Brel's songs into the B'way revue "J B Is Alive And Well" -- I don't know if the Blau/Brel song is in the OCR of that show, but it IS included in a cabaret album by Ellie Stone from 1975 called "The New Legend Of The Ancient Mariner Or The Spirit Of '76 And Other Tales", issued on eebee records #101 in 1975. (Ellie Stone was one of the leads in the cast of "J B Is Alive...", both stage and movie versions.) This alternate version (different title and I don't have the record in front of me) is about an NYC resident getting ready to move out of town just because Greenwich Village bohemian life has lost its charm and she feels like she's in a rut. More than you ever wanted to know about... whatever it was I was talking about in the first place... Doo Ron -- Hugo M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:55:40 -0800 From: ~albabe Subject: Beatles, Elvis, Disco, More Beatles, and The Sonny Boy Bob Bailey, re. Beatles Great remembrance, Bob. And what an fantastic series of events to have, to re-experience that long-lost perspective. I love stories like yours. Phil Milstein, re. gay pop lyrics/Jailhouse Rock How will I ever listen to Elvis again? Awesome dance number though (In the movie... not my living room). Stuffed Animal, re. Disco's Bad Rap... and speaking of dancing... Like any other style of music, Disco had some great moments. I really love some of the disco-like material from that period that bands like The Edgar Winter Band, Steely Dan, Hall & Oates, Earth Wind and Fire, and The Average White Band did so well. Makes me feel like dancing, just thinking about 'em. And you really don't wanna see that... even from a distance. Michael, re. Born Too Late A few years ago, I was bouncing around the AM dial looking for some sanctuary from the usual fascist in-your-face talk radio crap, and I came across an oldies station. They were playing, I think, "She Loves You." For some odd reason my heart skipped a few more than the customary beats, and I was completely and absolutely back in a friend's garage pretending to play guitar with a busted tennis racket in hand, and singing into the end of a funky broom handle. I could even smell his sister's perfume. Then I realized that my time-excursion was due not only to the soul of a great song, but to the fact that for the first time in many years, I was hearing the song in the original, seminal context, with the requisite AM radio hum. It doesn't get any better. Guy Lawrence, re. Sonny Bono: > Give Sonny a break! No one with a silly mustache like that deserves one. peace, ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:11:50 EST From: John Berg Subject: Re: British Invasion redux I did catch the PBS special -- happened to be "channel surfing" and came in just as the Manfreds were launching into their performance. I was in the UK this past summer on a 5 week "sabbatical" from my job and picked up a great CD by The Manfreds featuring virtually all the hits by versions "Mark 1" and "Mark 2" of the band. Paul Jones' singing is simply superb on everything he handles, and while Mike D'Abo is not as technically gifted he does pull his weight on the numbers he sings (you even get him doing his own "Handbags and Gladrags", which of course became known to most of us via Rod Stewart's version, though Chris Farlowe also does a very nice rendition.) Mike Vickers was involved at that point and handles keyboards, horns and some other instruments, so that made 4 of the original 5 members were involved (i.e. all by Manfred Mann himself.) Subsequent to the release of their first live CD as "The Manfreds", the band has released a couple further CDs, one including new original songs and the other being covers of songs by other bands they like. You should be able to find their band website via Google. The Manfreds have in fact been going gangbusters in the UK for several years now, doing annual tours all over the country. They are usually paired up with several other top UK artists best known from their '60s work, such as Colin Blunstone, Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers, etc. These gents are among my all time fave singers -- wish I could catch one of their gigs! John Berg, Seattle PS During my UK visit I also enjoyed a great night out at a pub in London where Zoot Money entertained some 75 of us geezers, with an unannounced "mystery guest" joining the band on grand piano for several songs in each set -- none other than Alan Price. A huge talent who seems to go mostly unheralded... -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:51:42 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Jimmy Botticelli: > Is that the same rekkid done by the Wildweeds and then > Jimmy James & The Vagabonds? Great rekkid. Rashkovsky: > Don't know. It was written by Al Anderson who I think > was at one time NRBQ maybe and has become a major Nashville > writer. Are the lyrics something like: I hear a new girl done found you yeah Now you think she's runnin' round yeah bla bla bla bla bla Love's a game you're in it And you were so proud of it Someone you can depend on Someone you can rely on Now matter what they say She won't come runnin' back to you now Yeah, its all over now Don't do no good to cry -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:05:13 -0000 From: Jerophonic Subject: Re: Bert Berns Don Charles wrote: > .....Also, the song catalog of the late Bert Berns includes > a title called "Hold On, Baby." Does anyone know if this > was ever recorded? I believe the Isley Brothers recorded "Hold On, Baby" on Wand. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:49:06 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: The First Moog LP From: Br. Cleve: "Switched-On Bach was the first to use a Moog synthesizer (Subotnik's "Silver Apples........" came out shortly thereafter, recorded using the Buchla synthesizer, but never became as popular due to its more 20th century classical sound and Academia-related approach)" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:15:32 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures Bob Rashkow wrote: > Rupert's People "Reflections of Charles Brown", another > great but utterly downbeat recording.  Top 20 (or possibly > Top 10, don't recall) in UK and no response whatsoever here, > or at least nobody could move or back the damn thing..... > ....I think there MAY be something to the idea that certain > hits here are too "native" sounding(Raiders?  Jay Black?  > Buckinghams?) for the British DJs' palates and vice versa.  > As Rashkovsky suggested a few messages ago, let's not go > to war about it.  I personally think the UK output circa > '66-'69 has "US" well beat, but that doesn't stop me from > turning up the radio when Tommy James or the Association, > etc. comes on.  Bob Sorry to disappoint you but Rupert's People didn't chart in UK. As to your point about preferring sad music I think you do indeed generalize. I think the point about the groups you name is right, they are a little too 'native' sounding. There were kind of British equivalents. Plus the fact that a lot of US bands didn't come over here to the UK, which restricted their sales. I am, and always have been, mystified as to why the Association didn't cut it in Britain. At least Tommy James did manage a No.1, although his best record (IMO) did nothing; 'Crystal Blue Persuasion' was a stunning song that I still play and get great pleasure from hearing. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:09:41 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: fivers / Sid Bernstein / disembolton Mick Patrick wrote: > Keep your eyes peeled come sale time 'coz the HMV Shop tends to > knock these great Pulse sets down to under a fiver, presumably as > some sort of loss leader. As if they weren't cheap enough already! I think some enterprising Englishman would do well to pick up a pile of these (perhaps a pre-ordered amount, so as not to overdo it) and charge a modest markup (plus postage) to send 'em us to us Yankz. After all, a fiver is a bargain in any currency. Mike Rashkow wrote: > Don't know--we didn't deal with them too much--that was Mr. Sid > Bernstein's area of responsibility. Ah, Sid Bernstein. His name came up in the book I was reading on my train ride home tonight, Ruth Brown's wonderful autobio "Miss Rhythm." Seems he'd worked with Ruth during her brief tenure at Mercury in the late '50s or early '60s -- I think he got her the deal there. Anyhow, he was in the studio with her while she was recording one time, and was holding Ruth's young son Earl when the kid peed himself. Some years later, after Bernstein's ushering of The Beatles into the U.S. helped knock Ruth and many other black artists off the charts, she ran into him and jokingly chided him for that. To which Bernstein replied, "It served you right for what your kid did to me in the studio that night!" I don't really know much about him, other than that anecdote and some of the background info on the Beatles' tours. Ruth's story makes him sound like one of the good guys. Can Mike, or anyone else, offer a word or two about Sid Bernstein? > Not really. I met him before. I met him after. I was given a bunch of > tapes and I manufactured an LP. I had never in my life heard of Jean > Shepherd before being offered the production job by Charlie Fach at > Mercury, who was very kind to me. Thanks for the Shepherd low-down. Do you recall the name of the LP? Your description makes me want to look into finding a copy. Tom Taber wrote: > I do know for a fact that my brother-in-law's noisy wedding night > party was interrupted by police summoned by Michael Bolton, and > he grew up in Albion (my brother-in-law, not Michael Bolton). And I have summoned the police on a few occasions on neighbors who were playing Michael Bolton! --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:34:38 +0100 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Beatles Christmas messages Justin Mcdevitt asked: > Are the Beatles Christmas messages, (1963-1969) available > on a CD compilation? Only bootleg. Some copies come with a second disc of other Beatles related Xmas stuff. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:00:44 +0000 From: Richard Hattersley Subject: Re: Richard Snow and GILG > Speaking of self-distribution, Richard Hattersley, I just > clicked on your website and have been enjoying your music. > If you haven't done so yet, folks, may I suggest going to > and listening to "The > Sweetest" and "Coming Soon." He IS making 'em kinda > like they used to. Thanks Paul for your kind plug. I'm not paying him...honestly readers! :-) GILG - 04 Seasons: By the way, I have been turning on a few folks to this record over at the Smile Shop by putting a few tracks online. If anyone here hasn't heard the album you can get a sample at: Please don't tell the 4 Seasons partnership!!! :-) I'm only trying to drum up records sales for them. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:28:03 -0600 From: Nick Archer Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer What instrument was used on "Telstar" by the Tornados? Was that an early synth? Nick Archer Check out Nashville's classic radio station SM95 on the web at -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:25:23 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Zager and Evans - One Hit Wonders? Art Longmire wrote: > Country Paul mentioned several several acts that had number > one hits and no further chart activity. Another one that > falls into that category (I think!) is "In the Year 2525" by > Zager and Evans. Anyone who was around in 1969 will probably > recall this dirge-like little ditty. I have a German copy of > this record and wonder how well it did in other countries - > was it a hit in the U.K.? Art, "In the Year 2525" was a huge hit in France too. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:12:14 -0000 From: Jerophonic Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Alan V. Karr: > Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on "The Sound > of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of Silence" LP era tracks? Mike McKay: > No...if this were so, it certainly would have been documented. The > story I've heard most frequently is that the electric backing was > added to "The Sounds of Silence" at the same session and by the > same musicians who had just backed Bob Dylan on "Like a Rolling > Stone. Art Longmire: > Do you mean Mike Bloomfield, Al Kooper, etc. who backed Dylan > on "Like a Rolling Stone" did the backing for "Sounds of Silence"? I > think you should question your sources...That Dylan session is one of > the best documented in history and I've never heard anyone involved > in it mention a Simon and Garfunkel connection. The backing track on "Sounds of Silence" is too lackluster to be Kooper and Bloomfield, and too technically proficient for the VU. IMHO. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:36:39 +0300 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Re: Whiter shade of Charles Brown Bob Rashkow wrote > Rupert's People "Reflections of Charles Brown", another > great but utterly downbeat recording. Top 20 (or possibly > Top 10, don't recall) in UK and no response whatsoever here, > or at least nobody could move or back the damn thing. This > British treasure was left for me to discover as recently > as 2001! That's a fantastic song! By the way, do you happen to know who stole it, Rupert's People from Procol Harum or Procol Harum from Rupert's People? Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:06:57 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Zager and Evans - One Hit Wonders? Art Longmire a écrit: > Country Paul mentioned several several acts that had number one hits > and no further chart activity. Another one that falls into that > category (I think!) is "In the Year 2525" by Zager and Evans. Anyone > who was around in 1969 will probably recall this dirge-like little > ditty. I have a German copy of this record and wonder how well it did > in other countries -was it a hit in the U.K.? Not exactly a one hit wonder, as Michael Zager would sell "some" copies of his "Let's All Chant", the disco hit ("Oooh Oooh Let's All Chant"...) from 1978 (not from 2525!) Stephane -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:30:07 -0000 From: Don Charles Subject: The Death Of The Album USA Today (December 5 - 07 edition) has two lengthy articles predicting the imminent death of the album format. Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek is quoted as saying: "Each generation gets the music it deserves, and three good minutes is about all anyone really wants (anymore). . . perhaps listening to an entire album is too much to ask of the TV generation in the mad pace of the 21st century." What do y'all think about this? How will the death of albums impact those of us who collect vintage pop and rock? Don "Stuffed Animal" Charles -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:19:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lapka Larry Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Dear Rashkovsky: I always thought that the Monkees "Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Jones Ltd." LP was the first use of synthesizers in rock (certainly on the songs Star Collector and Daily Nightly-- remember that video?), but I am wrong. I had been told that Micky Dolenz actually owned one of the world's first Moog synthesizers. I guess this fable came about because of the Monkees' popularity, but thanks so much for setting the record straight. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:00:01 -0700 From: Rex Strother Subject: Bootleg - Master Use Licenses I think one big condition leading to bootlegging is that unlike the "statutory" rate set by Congress for songwriter royalties, there is no similar set rate for master use licensing. Labels (or conglomerates who have swallowed up dozens - nay hundreds - of labels) can set any price they want to use a master recording. Those releasing little forgotten (but loved) artists, who might sell only 1,000 copies, can't afford the prohibitive licensing fees. Although there may be other problems with this idea, if there was a flat master use rate - say $.10 per master per CD sold - you could put 20 songs on a CD, pay the $2.00 royalties to the labels (RIAA could act as a blanket licensing agency) and $1.70 royalties to the songwriters, sell for $15.00 and everybody gets their share. Fair price, selection unlimited, everybody makes as much money as they can. Labels even make money off "dead" catalog. Everyone could put out any CD they like - with everyone getting paid. Of course, we'd have to endure compilations like "Artists Whose Names are Phonetically Similar to Spector" and such, but the music could get out. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:58:11 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Andy Kim's Birthday Hi folks, Speaking of Andy Kim (which we were), today, December 5th, is his birthday! If you want to leave a message for him, go to his message board at Happy birthday to the Baron and many more!!! Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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