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Spectropop - Digest Number 1151

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Simultaneous No.1s
           From: Mike McKay 
      2. Re: Sounds Of Silence / Tom Wilson
           From: Mike McKay 
      3. Beverley Sisters; Al Brown(e); Ray Bryant; one-hit wonders/disco; trivia quiz; Richard Snow
           From: Country Paul 
      4. Re: Sounds of Silence / Tom Wilson
           From: Clark Besch 
      5. Re: Me About You
           From: Patrick Beckers 
      6. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: James Botticelli 
      7. Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence
           From: Stewart Mason 
      8. Bewitched
           From: Simon White 
      9. Re: Jimmy Webb CD
           From: Richard Havers 
     10. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: Richard Havers 
     11. Re: Giant Sunflower and such groups
           From: Stephane Rebeschini 
     12. Britsh Invasion redux
           From: Bill Craig 
     13. Re: White Soul / Joss Stone
           From: Artie Wayne 
     14. Re: The first song to use a synthesizer
           From: Phil Milstein 
     15. Gazette label
           From: David Gordon 
     16. Re: Seasons In The Sun
           From: Mike McKay 
     17. Rainy Day label
           From: Davidl Gordon 
     18. Re: Tom Wilson
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     19. R. I. P. David Hemmings
           From: Country Paul 
     20. Obscurities; Yom Kippur music
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     21. Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     22. Re: Midnight Cryin' Time / Faux Shangs / Mickey Lee Lane
           From: Mick Patrick 
     23. Re: Cincinnati
           From: Ruby 
     24. Re: House Of The Rising Sun
           From: Ruby 
     25. Re: Cincinnati
           From: John Fox 

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:51:51 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Simultaneous No.1s Peter McDonnell wrote: > I think I heard that the first single to be number one in both > countries simultaneously was "Get Off Of My Cloud". I have no way > of knowing if that's erroneous. Anybody? I replied: > I don't have a reference work at hand, but that hardly seems > possible. Without looking, my candidate would be "Can't Buy Me > Love". Prior to this, there was a lag in the opening months of > 1964 as the U.S. "caught up" with older Beatles releases ("I Want > To Hold Your Hand" had come out in late fall of 1963 in the UK). > "Can't Buy Me Love" would have been the first instance of the UK > and US waiting as one for a truly "new" Beatles release to come > out and shoot to the top of both charts. > > If no one else beats me to it, I'll try to verify this hypothesis > later today. (I do know that for a long time, "Can't Buy Me Love" > held the record for advance orders for a single from record > distributors.) Obviously, I have way too much time on my hands. After some digging through multiple reference works, I've determined that, while it's true "Can't Buy Me Love" was #1 simultaneously in the US and UK, this was not the first instance of this phenomenon. The U.S. Billboard Hot 100 chart was published every Saturday, while the UK NME chart was published each Friday. On Saturday, November 26, 1956, "Sixteen Tons" by "Tennessee" Ernie Ford began an 8-week stint at the top of the charts in the U.S. On Friday, January 20, 1957, the same song reached #1 in the UK. With the publication of the new Billboard Hot 100 the next day, "Sixteen Tons" fell out of the #1 spot in the US. But this means that for one glorious day, the song was indeed #1 in both countries! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:03:16 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Sounds Of Silence / Tom Wilson Alan V. Karr wrote: > Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on "The Sound > of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of Silence" LP era tracks? No...if this were so, it certainly would have been documented. The story I've heard most frequently is that the electric backing was added to "The Sounds of Silence" at the same session and by the same musicians who had just backed Bob Dylan on "Like a Rolling Stone." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:05:30 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: Beverley Sisters; Al Brown(e); Ray Bryant; one-hit wonders/disco; trivia quiz; Richard Snow RIP, Teddy Randazzo. Many others have commented; I'll leave it there, except to say thanks for the many musica posts. That Alan Gordon: > Didn't the Chuckles have that great record "Blanche"? That was the Three Friends on Lido; the Three Chuckles' "Runaround" (on RCA subsidiary "X") was later covered by the Fleetwoods. (Coincidentally, I have both the "Three's" on 78!) Dave Heasman wrote: > HMV has nothing but: BEVERLEY SISTERS The Very Best Of £5.99 As you > can see, they're largely covers of early 50s just pre-rock n roll > songs. Ian Chapman: > Yes, except for "Long Black Nylons", which is an out-and-out rock > 'n' roll raver, sung to the tune of "Clementine". Has one of > wildest 50s manic sax breaks y'ever heard. I vaguely remember the pic on the S'pop home page, but of course didn't pay major attention to it beyond curiosity. Is it in the archives? Art Longmire: > I have two questions regarding the other version of "Madison Time" > by Al Brown's Tunetoppers (which I have never heard) - is it as > good as Ray Bryant's version? And which version came first? Art, the Al Brown song (on Amy - Part 1 and Part 2) was the big hit; smooth groove in the verse, a shout chorus with instructions on how to do the Madison to pick things up. (Brown, also spelled Browne, was a major 50's r&b/doowop arranger, band leader and producer in New York. High among his accomplishments is "Lullabye of the Bells" by the Deltairs on Ivy. I seem to remember a recent article on him in either Goldmine or Discoveries.) I don't remember the Ray Bryant track; he was a jazz pianist, and I think it may have been a different composition. He had a really cool jazz instrumental hit, "Little Susie" (on Signature) prior to signing with Columbia in the 60's. Bob Rashkow: > Who originally did "A Change is Gonna Come"? Are you referring to the hit Sam Cooke wrote and sang the early '60's? Stewart Mason, responding to Steve Harvey: > ...etc. etc. Nope, there were never any one-hit wonders, faceless > studio bands hiding behind catchy names, or producer-driven artists > before the big bad disco era. And as I'm sure everyone here can > attest, there certainly were NEVER any unscrupulous or cynical > actions on the part of record companies before 1976, right??? Stewart, I might suggest you're being a bit hard on Steve. Of course there were, but I think disco was as much or even more a "producer's medium" than much of what came before. In addition, there certainly hadn't been nearly as many of what Frank Zappa called "cocaine decisions" made prior to said era, which made an already irrational industry even moreso. (Personally, I'm rather glad I sat disco out. Beat on me for my opinion if you wish; it isn't racist or sexist, it's "tastist." Having said that, of course there were some good disco records - Don Charles cites "Rock Your Baby," and my personal fave is Patrick Hernandez's "Born to Be Alive." But personally I had to get through a lot of "pssh-shoomp' pssh-shoomp' pssh-shoomp'" to find those.) And yes, Stewart, a few of your "one hit wonders" did indeed have pre- and post-hit careers. Mickey Baker, of Mickey and Sylvia, was a distinguished guitarist and teacher (the famous Mickey Baker Guitar Book); Sylvia Robinson had Sugar Hill and a whole other life in disco. The Penguins had other west coast r&b hits, and even Vito Picone of the Elegants had some regional successes and a career playing clubs for quite a while. Incidentally, here's a trivia quiz - name three #1 US hits whose artists never again made the national charts. Answer at the end of this post. Cameo-Parkway to be reissued? Anyone with additional real news (not just rumors or dreams) please keep us posted. Clark Besch, thanks for the research on White Whale and April & Nino. If musica ever has room, I'd certainly be interested in hearing what they did at Bell. Michael "Nanker Phelge," nice treatise on how you heard the Beatles; thank you for the thoughtful insight. In trying to stay current with contemporary rock and pop, I too know I'm hearing the songs and artists but I don't know what they mean to the generation that's making them - are they credible artists, record company puppets, posers, dabblers, etc.? No one specific in mind. And Don Charles, I don't think all music is going to hell since the 90's. Radio and "radio music,' yes; but there are some amazing artists recording self-distributed material and selling it off the bandstand because the major labels seem to no longer be able or willing to allow an artist to evolve and grow a style and a catalog. Speaking of self-distribution, Richard Hattersley, I just clicked on your website and have been enjoying your music. If you haven't done so yet, folks, may I suggest going to and listening to "The Sweetest" and "Coming Soon." He IS making 'em kinda like they used to. Trivia quiz answers: Okay, one and probably two had a reason for being one-shots - they were ghastly: SSgt. Barry Sadler's political screed "Ballad of the Green Berets" and The Singing Nun's "Dominique." The third: the Elegants had several more 45's after "Little Star," but never again charted nationally. (One follow-up, "Goodnight," was a small hit in New York, in Providence, RI, and possibly other markets as well.) And speaking of "Goodnight," more later.... Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:43:28 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Sounds of Silence / Tom Wilson Artie Wayne wrote: > ...By the time I was able to go to London.......Paul (Simon) had > left a note for me with his UK sub-publisher saying that he had > to rush back to the states to promote "Sounds of Silence" which > was becoming a hit!! Artie, Hope you are well! Great story. Hopefully, you can hear the interview bit I posted to Musica. Paul says he picked up a trade mag and saw "Sounds of Silence" was #84 in US and was surprised. A chart check shows it was never #84, but hit the Hot 100 on Nov. 20, 1965 then moving to 65, 34, 26, 16, 05 and #1 on Jan 1 before getting knocked off by "We Can Work it Out". I just checked and DAMN, it first charted on Cashbox same week at #84!!! Paul you had a great memory!! Even tho at time of interview, he only had to remember it for 2 months, I guess. Anyway, Artie, being the private eye that I am (ha ha), that puts your missed trip and measles around November 65. Whatever that means....:) Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:54:00 +0100 From: Patrick Beckers Subject: Re: Me About You Country Paul wrote: > Bonner & Gordon & Jacobs' "Me About You" on musica is a delicious > treat! Reminds me of Jake [Jacobs] and the Family Jewels version of > "Maybe" - same reggae feel. But my favorite version of this remains > Garry Bonner's solo on Columbia. Anyone capable of playing it to > musica? As soon as there is some room at Musica, I can and will! Patrick Beckers -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:17:08 -0500 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Mike Rashkow wrote: > I have previously laid claim to have been the first (working > along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a Moog > Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No > Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants > to date it. Is that the same rekkid done by the Wildweeds and then Jimmy James & The Vagabonds? Great rekkid. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: Tom Wilson / Sound Of Silence Alan V. Karr asks: > Question for all: Are the VU the electric backing on "The Sound > of Silence" and possibly other "Sounds of Silence" LP era tracks? No chance at all. The electrified "The Sounds of Silence" was apparently recorded in June 1965, when the Velvet Underground was still in its infancy -- I don't know if Maureen Tucker had even replaced their tabla-playing original drummer Angus MacLise yet! -- and supposedly features the same musicians who played on Dylan's HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED. I don't know if I believe that, just as I don't know if I believe another anecdote I've heard about the recording: just before the first live performance of the song with a full backing band, Paul Simon went up to the electric guitarist Columbia had hired for the gig (I've forgotten who it supposedly was) and said, "Listen, there's this lick that the guitarist on the record played, I want to show it to you..." "I know the lick, Paul." "No, see, he did this one thing here on the record..." "Paul...I played on the record." "Oh. Well, all right then. Good lick." Like I said, I don't buy it, but it's a great story. S -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:29:17 +0000 From: Simon White Subject: Bewitched > Peggy Lee did a good rendition of the Bewitched theme song years ago. > I have it, and it is worth looking for. Funny, but I was looking at the show's credits the other day. There is no vocal version on the shows titles and I don't ever remember hearing one - but I'd love to hear Peggy's. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:21:55 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Jimmy Webb CD Bill George wrote: > Looks like a great collection! Too bad it doesn't include one of > my favorite Webb songs, If These Walls Could Speak. Amy Grant > does the best version I've heard. It's a good song Bill. i like the Nanci Griffiths version, or Jimmy's take on it from 'Ten Easy Pieces'. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:36 +0000 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Mike Rashkow wrote: > Well, yes. I have previously laid claim to have been the first > (working along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a > Moog Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No > Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants to > date it. Not sure what the 'first' pop or rock record was to use a moog, but the first model was built in 1964. Early synthesiser users were Paul Beaver and Bernie Krause. They had a record out on Nonsuch in 1967 (The Nonsuch guide to electronic music). They had bought a moog in 1966 and set up a stall at the Monterey Pop Festival to try and excite some potential customers, the Byrds were one of the first to show an interest. The Byrds played the second day of Monterey (June17). Four days later they were in the studio with Gary Usher recording 'Old John Robertson', which I'm pretty sure has no moog. On August 16 they cut the brilliant 'Tribal Gathering' (no moog) and 'Dolphin's Smile' which i'd wager had moog on the opening section. Two months later they did 'Moog Raga', which didn't make the album and at the end of November 'Natural Harmony' which also has moog. 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers' came out in early 1968. Beaver and Krause did an interesting album in 1971 called Gandharva, which was mostly recorded live at Grace Cathedral in San Francisco. The Fuzzy Bunnies was 1969 I think. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:26:20 +0100 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Giant Sunflower and such groups Mark T a écrit: > Anyone have info on this male/female group [Charlotte Russe] > with 2 excellent singles on Philips? Or for that matter, > Giant Sunflower (Ode), Society's Children (Atco), Golden Bough > (A&M), or The Underground (Mainstream). There's nowhere to find > out about this unknown, non-charted groups that they put out > some excellent singles and then disappeared. Hi, You can find some info on Giant Sunflower (Ode), Society's Children (Atco) and The Underground (Mainstream) here: Have a nice day, Stephane -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:35:57 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Britsh Invasion redux Did anyone catch the latest PBS fundraising special that featured Gerry Marsden and a version of Manfred Mann called The Manfreds that included 3 out of 5 of the original members (no Manfred Mann or Mike Vickers)? This Manfred group has got Paul Jones and Mike D'abo and has Mike Hugg playing keyboards instead of drums. For all that they only showed them doing "Do Wa Diddy" which sounded fine if not spectacular. Paul Jones looks great and you got the feeling this lineup is capable of doing some cool stuff but this was a venue that was only going to allow them the chance to play their best known hit. Gerry sounded great with a full backing group that played all the string arrangements plus brass on "Don't Let The Sun..." and "Ferry Cross.." Check it out if you have the chance. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:27:14 -0800 (PST) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: White Soul / Joss Stone Mick Patrick: > But that was last week. I have a new favourite now and her name > is Joss Stone, a 16-year-old from Devon with the voice of an > angel. I kid you not, her debut CD is a contender for the best > blue-eyed soul album of all time. Produced, in the main, by Betty > Wright at Criteria Studios in Miami and The Hit Factory in New > York, "The Soul Sessions" is just out on Relentless (CDREL 2). > Sweet baby Jesus, you should hear her version of Carla Thomas's > "I've Fallen In Love With You", complete with full string section. > Musicians include Little Beaver, Latimore and Timmy Thomas. Real > soul music is alive and well. Thank god. I hear Joss is no mean > songwriter either and is already at work on her follow-up, set to > comprise all original songs. Can't wait. Mick........How ya' doin'? I totally agree with you about Joss Stone ......She's amazing!!! It's only a matter of time before she becomes a world wide star....and I just happen to have a song for her!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:10:33 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: The first song to use a synthesizer Mike Rashkow wrote: > Well, yes. I have previously laid claim to have been the first > (working along with the notorious Ms. Eleanor Greenwich) to use a > Moog Synthesizer on a contemporary record; the Fuzzy Bunnies' "No > Good To Cry". It was Decca 732537 (7-121,271) if anyone wants to > date it. The Al Anderson/Wildweeds song? Curious what the Decca suits might've made of that. Were they scared of the "new thing"? Also, have any good Jean Shepherd stories? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:03:22 -0000 From: David Gordon Subject: Gazette label GAZETTE dist. Columbia 8000 LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL 1970 Daydreams Happy People 8001 LIGHT 1970 Buena Vista (W Bailey,B Grimes,B Peters) ? Prod : Bob Gaudio 8002 LUX 1970 When I'm Gone (W Bailey) ? 8003 LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL 1970 Number 1 Momma (R Jiminez,P Martone,S Viscuso,T Scorsone) All Because Of You (P Martone) Prod : Bob Gaudio and Mike Petrillo Light and Lux may well be the same group given that "Lux" is Latin for "Light" - maybe they had to change there name. There was a West Coast group called The Light on A&M in '67. Davie Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:31:23 EST From: Mike McKay Subject: Re: Seasons In The Sun Andrew Jones wrote: > Terry Jacks probably did write the last verse of his version - > in the Brel/McKuen original, that last verse is about a cheating > wife, and would NOT have fit Terry's recording. Yes, Rod acknowledges that Jacks took his last verse of "Seasons in the Sun," changed the name from "Francoise" to "Michelle," and added (in his words) some "doggerel" about "finding the sun." McKuen's complete take on both the "Seasons in the Sun" and "Rock Me Gently" thefts is here (about 2/3 of the way down the page): -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0000 From: Davidl Gordon Subject: Rainy Day label RAINY DAY distributed by Jubilee 45-8002 CHIP TAYLOR 08/67 You Should Be From Monterey ? Prod : [this actually charted on KEXO,Colorado according a survey I found some time ago at the BroadcastAirchecks Yahoo group - maybe the only station to chart a Rainy Day release ] 45-8003 HARRY'S GROUP Under My Umbrella (Chip Taylor,Billy Vera) Old Man Trouble (Chip Taylor,Billy Vera) Prod : Chip Taylor,Billy Vera,Al Gorgoni 45-8004 ALICE CLARK 1968 You Got A Deal (Billy Vera) Say You'll Never (Never Leave Me) (Billy Vera) Prod : Billy Vera (UK issue = Action ACT4520, 03 /69) cd : both on "Got A Good Thing Going" (Sequel NEMCD785) 45-8005 THE M.S.Q. 06/68 Save A Place For Me (Billy Vera ..) Gee Baby (Billy Vera ..) Prod : Billy Vera 45-8006 KATHY McCORD 1968 I'll Give My Heart To You (Chip Taylor) I'll Never Be Alone Again (Chip Taylor,Al Gorgoni) Prod / Arr : Chip Taylor 45-8007 JEANNE FOX Working Girl (Chip Taylor) ? Prod : Chip Taylor,Al Gorgoni Kathy McCord? Hmmmm, Billy Vera's real name is William McCord so it looks pretty certain that Kathy was related to him - sister ? wife ? There's another Kathy McCord single on CTI 502 Take Away This Pain (Kathy McCord) ? Prod : Creed Taylor Billy Vera wrote the booklet for the "Got A Good Thing Going" CD from which ... "Perhaps as a result of being hot with Judy Clay's and my record of "Storybook Children" people were approaching me to do things. One day the Crystals' manager brought me this singer, Alice, from Brooklyn. I wrote the tunes for her. My friend, Chip Taylor, had a label deal with Jubilee and wanted me to make some R&B records for him. The record did nothing at the time but, I am told, became famous as a "Northern Soul Classic" in England, bootlegged like crazy. This is thge first time I will see a dime from it. I lost track of Alice and heard she fell ino the clutches of Bob Shad at mainstream at one point." Billy's quite right - there's a 1973 "Alice Clark" album on Mainstream which just happens to include a version of Jim Webb's "I Keep It Hid" So there's yet another record which ties together three recent threads - and has a connection the Crystals! Davie Gordon PS - wonder if the MSQ means "Modern Soul Quartet" - a nod to the MJQ / MFQ? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:37:45 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: Tom Wilson IMHO very few LP kickoff gimmicks beat Tom Wilson's own recitation at the start of the Beacon Street Union's first astonishing LP. The way it segues into "My Love Is"....oooohhhhh! I would've voted for him. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:12:59 -0500 From: Country Paul Subject: R. I. P. David Hemmings Late news from AP: "David Hemmings, the British actor who starred in the 1966 film "Blow Up," has died while filming a movie in Romania. He was 62. "Hemmings died Wednesday after paramedics on the film set of "Samantha's Child" were unable to revive him, his agent, Liz Nelson, said." Full story at: (if the link won't click through, make sure the entire URL is one one line). And the swingin' '60's are swingin' a bit less - again. Country Paul -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:09:33 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Obscurities; Yom Kippur music Mark asked about these awesome groups including Society's Children, Giant Sunflower and Underground. I'm reasonably sure that if you go to you can get, at the very least, a minimal amount of information from online Fuzz, Acid & Flowers if it's still available. That's one of the most extensively researched books attempting to cover all the little-known as well as the well-known pop and rock groups of the US from approx. 1965 to 1972. My own Jewish background enables me to appreciate recordings such as The Electric Prunes' "Release of an Oath", their own LP based on the Yom Kippur service, at least the Kol Nidray atonement prayer. Kol Nidray evening is a very heavy, very serious time for me, and Procol Harum's early music, intentionally or not, serves as a perfect background for the somber mood, particularly "Repent Walpurgis." That much aside Procol Harum is one of my favorite "progressive" bands from here or the UK. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:30:47 EST From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Re: USA No 1s which were UK chart failures Paul Bryant (referring to failure of records like "Windy" and "Crimson and Clover" in UK): > ...why would these singles be considered "too American"? I honestly can't answer that! But it's a great question. Why did the Move's wonderfully sentimental "Blackberry Way" top the charts in England and go nowhere here? Rupert's People "Reflections of Charles Brown", another great but utterly downbeat recording. Top 20 (or possibly Top 10, don't recall) in UK and no response whatsoever here, or at least nobody could move or back the damn thing. This British treasure was left for me to discover as recently as 2001! Now I won't go so far as to generalize that Brit radio listeners prefer sad music (look at the success, at around the same time, here of records like Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey" and even Britain's own late Richard Harris' "MacArthur Park", not to mention the intriguing but ultimately downbeat "Ode to Billie Joe" a year earlier!) but I think there MAY be something to the idea that certain hits here are too "native" sounding (Raiders? Jay Black? Buckinghams?) for the British DJs' palates and vice versa. As Rashkovsky suggested a few messages ago, let's not go to war about it. I personally think the UK output circa '66-'69 has "US" well beat, but that doesn't stop me from turning up the radio when Tommy James or the Association, etc. comes on. Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:11:11 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Midnight Cryin' Time / Faux Shangs / Mickey Lee Lane The S'pop Team: > Budget conscious S'poppers might already be aware of the great > value for money offered by the Castle Pulse logo's themed 3 CD > sets. Their latest release, subtitled "Teen Angst Classics From > The Rock 'n' Roll Era", is the latest addition to the S'pop > Recommends section. Mike Edwards is your reviewer: > Keep your eyes peeled come sale time 'coz the HMV Shop tends to knock these great Pulse sets down to under a fiver, presumably as some sort of loss leader. As if the weren't cheap enough already! One of the best tracks I discovered on "Midnight Cryin' Time" is Mickey Lee Lane's "She Cried To Me", from the Swan label c. 1965. It's an eerie male Shangri-Las type disc of the first order. Very me. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:41:02 -0000 From: Ruby Subject: Re: Cincinnati Bootsy Collins' older brother is Catfish (what did they do to their mother to deserve these names). Both Bootsy and Catfish played with James Brown on parts of the live "Sex Machine" album. Bootsy and Catfish are also cousins to James Brown's Funky Diva Lyn "The Female Preacher" Collins, who brought us "Think" "You Can't Love Me If You Don't Respect Me" "Give It Up Or Turn It Loose" and "Mama Feelgood." -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:48:31 -0000 From: Ruby Subject: Re: House Of The Rising Sun The history of House of the Rising Sun is interesting. Alan Lomax found a girl named Georgia Turner singing it in Middlesboro, KY in 1937 and recorded it as a part of a WPA project. The AP did a wonderful story about it, and documented it in a website at: Hopefully the link works. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:08:22 EST From: John Fox Subject: Re: Cincinnati Cincy cingers: Wasn't Rosemary Clooney from there, also? Maysville, Kentucky actually (about 60 miles up river). Her brother, Nick (George's father), is actually going to run for congress from that district next year. John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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