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Spectropop - Digest Number 1108



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Righteous Brothers sing Bonner & Gordon
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Lynsey DePaul Meets Spector Via Roy Wood
           From: Mark Frumento 
      3. Re: From classical to pop / the Toys
           From: Paul Bryant 
      4. Re: Mina's "Just  Let Me Cry"
           From: Michael Fishberg 
      5. What A Terrific Group!
           From: tkptitan 
      6. Re: Pretty Flamingo
           From: David Coyle 
      7. Re: Mike Smith and Musica addition!
           From: Clark Besch 
      8. Re: Celebrity pottymouths
           From: Clark Besch 
      9. Re: Tom Jones / killing for a hit
           From: Phil Milstein 
     10. Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music)
           From: Clark Besch 
     11. Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music)
           From: JJ 
     12. Re: Buddy/Dusty & Paul Anka
           From: Austin Powell

     13. Dobie Gray
           From: Kingsley Abbott

     14. New Rev-Olas!
           From: Joe Foster 
     15. Troggs
           From: Kingsley Abbott

     16. Re: Celebrity pottymouths etc
           From: Steve Grant 
     17. Re: Unchained Melody
           From: Richard Hattersley 
     18. Re: Other Cover Versions / Beach Boys doo wop
           From: Paul Bryant 
     19. Re: "Don't Give Up On Me"
           From: Andrew Jones 
     20. Re: Righteous Brothers sing Bonner & Gordon
           From: Bill Reed 
     21. The Association - Collectors Choice Reissues
           From: Art Longmire 
     22. Re: Sandy Posey / Toni Wine
           From: Peter Lerner

     23. Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music)
           From: Patrick Rands 
     24. Re: 60s radio commercials
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
     25. Righteous Brothers / Mac & Mike
           From: Phil Milstein 



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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:08:56 -0000 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers sing Bonner & Gordon There's too much going on at S'pop for one bod to keep up! If it hadn't been for Peter Richmond's message re (That) Alan Gordon's R'Bros tracks, I'd have wrongly assumed them to be the two sides Bonner-Gordon had written for the Bros and released on a Verve 45. What a treat I'd have missed! My 45 plays "Don't Give Up On Me" too fast and, despite the spoken intro, I'd assumed it to be deliberately amusing. It is rather marred by Bobby sounding like a chipmunk, so it's great to hear it as the good Lord intended. Hallelujah! As for "Whatever Happened To Happy" - what a great song and the Brothers certainly do it justice. These two songs are sure to have brightened Peter's day (and Bill Reed, assuming Nick de Caro arranged "Whatever Happened..."). Mine day will be brightened if the Bobby Darin version was turns out to be arranged by Jack Nitzsche! Looking forward to hearing it, thanks That Alan and my ol' mucker Phil M for playing them to musica. How sad to think the Righteous Brothers will never perform again. Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:36:21 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Lynsey DePaul Meets Spector Via Roy Wood For a taste of "Phil's Spectre" in the '70s, might I recommend Lynsey DePaul's "Ooh I Do" (WB K 16401) to musica. Her take on the Wall of Sound but it seems to me that she got there via "Angel Fingers" or one of Roy Wood's epic rock 'n roll masterpieces. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:34:04 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: From classical to pop / the Toys Peter Lerner wrote: ...I've never remotely understood the lyrics of any of (the Toys' songs... Lovers' Concerto How gentle is the rain That falls softly on the meadow Birds high up on the trees Serenade the clouds with their melody How gentle is the rain That falls softly on the meadow Birds high up on the trees Serenade the clouds with their melody Oh! See there beyond the hill The bright colours of the rainbow Some magic from above Made this day for us, just to fall in love You'll hold me in your arms And say once again you'll love me And that your love is true Everything will be just as wonderful Now, I belong to you From this day until forever Just love me tenderly And I'll give to you every part of me Oh! Don't ever make me cry Through long lonely nights without us Be always true to me Keep this day in your heart eternally You hold me in your arms And say once again you love me And that your love is true Everything will be just as wonderful -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Fishberg Subject: Re: Mina's "Just Let Me Cry" Julio Nino wrote: In musica I've played Mina's Italian and Spanish versions of "Just Let Me Cry". Fred Clemens: Mina, as you may know, recorded the song first (before Lesley Gore), having had an English version released in the US in 1962 on Verve Records. Flip of this was "Pretend That I'm Her", originally issued on Italian Italdisc. Madly rare! Michael Fishberg -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:41:57 -0000 From: tkptitan Subject: What A Terrific Group! My friend Nick Archer turned me on to this group, and I must say I am thrilled to be here! I'm nuts about this type of music, and it's good to have a forum where I can discuss my love for these pop gems among the faithful, as it were! I, along with a lot of my friends, mourn the passing of Bobby Hatfield, and I know if there is a "Rock 'N' Roll Heaven", there's a new high tenor singer in the ranks! If I may, I would like to ask a question: Did David Gates really write "Popscicles and Icicles" for The Murmaids? I've always heard that, but thought it was maybe an "urban legend." Please let me know! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Pretty Flamingo "Pretty Flamingo" was originally recorded by Gene Pitney, whose version appears on Varese's "American Roots Of The British Invasion." If there's a version before Pitney's, I don't know about it. The main difference is Gene sings "all of the kids call her Flamingo," as opposed to "guys." David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:22:26 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Mike Smith and Musica addition! It is indeed good news to know that Mike Smith is in good spirits if not in good health. He has given me so many great moments of listening. I know there are many DC5 detracters, whether because of the "don't play the instruments" issues or the non-"issues of the day" lyrics they often put forth. I don't care. Mike and Co. (Dave and Co.?) put out classic rock in under 2 minutes that just grabs you! Even tho short, by the end of the song, you are singing along and swaying! I wish Dave Clark would see fit to release their material (both released and unreleased) on Cd. You might think the timing would be bad right now, but considering Mike co-wrote much of their material, I think he could use the royalties right now. I played to Musica one of the many unreleased acetates Dave needs to get out. It's got that usual Spectorish reverb/echo thing going that so many DC5 hits had. Kind of a cross between Peter & Gordon and the Everlies for Mike on this one. All clocking in at (you guessed it) a whopping 1:48! Plus, the title seems appropriate to wish Mike a get well soon: "I Can't Get You off of my Mind". Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:43:59 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Celebrity pottymouths Phil Milstein: All these moments, and dozens more like them (incl. an F-word from Barbra Streisand), are included on Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God's 3-CD series "Celebrities At Their Worst." The CDs list an address of PO Box 420464, SF CA 94142 USA. Phil, Many thanks for this. I am going to order this. I've heard some of these and they are great, but have few in my collection. Thanks again. Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:31 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Tom Jones / killing for a hit Scott Swanson pointed out (privately, so as not to embarrass me) that I made a few factual errors in recounting the details of Tom Jones' appearance on Larry King Live the other night. I don't dispute them, but instead point Jones fans to another excellent interview with the man (also brought to my attention by Scott), on the Web, where you can read the facts for yourself -- or even hear them for yourself, as an audio version is also posted: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/tomjones/tomtalks.shtml?index On a totally unrelated matter, and at an even longer URL is an article from the Nashville City Paper about a murder -- committed in 1989 but only recently prosecuted -- over chart-rigging in Cashbox! The case happened so long ago the magazine doesn't even exist anymore, although I doubt that's put an end to chart-rigging: http://nashville.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htmsite=http:/ /www.nashvillecitypper.com/index.cfm%3Fsection%5Fid=9%26scre en=news%26news%5Fid=26931 --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:33:39 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music) Ron: "Help The Poor: The Complete Recordings of The Poor featuring Randy Meisner" is part of Sonic Past Music's third set of releases Ok, Ron, I'm sold! I went to the label web site and didn't see it. Is it out yet? I was lucky enough to help out a little with the UK's Cherry Red label recent Poor Cd release and it is great too. There's always room for more. Hopefully, the new Cd has different material too. Sound like it does if it has those early tracks. My friend Doug Richard turned me on to the group decades ago and I tracked down all their stuff eventually. Fave would be "Feelin Down" and its' flip, "Come Back Baby" which Nebraska boy, Randy Meisner, wrote. It reached top 30 in Omaha on KOIL in 68. The liner notes mentioned one of the group coming from the Sounds of Dawn out of Chicago. That was cool to know, as their "How Many Times" got airplay on WCFL in Chicago in late 67. Anyway, I look forward to the new Cd. Just gotta find how to get it! Thanks for posting this! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:58:24 -0000 From: JJ Subject: Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music) Ron Weekes: ..."Help The Poor: The Complete Recordings of The Poor featuring Randy Meisner" is part of Sonic Past Music's third set of releases. As soon as I heard the first notes of The Poor's CD I felt: Wow, I'm back in the late Sixties' and these sounds are coming from Bill Graham's Fillmore... **LOVE THE POOR! Can u provide the track listing?......earlier this year, the Rev-Ola label in England, released a Poor cd, incl ALL their 45 sides + a Soundtrack song, but NOT the Esquires trax!! JJ/Sweden -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:15:48 -0000 From: Austin Powell Subject: Re: Buddy/Dusty & Paul Anka James wrote: Add to the Buddy Rich stories, now circulating, Paul Anka Moment(s) wherein he berates his band saying HE is the show, HE is the center of attention and they are only there because HE is gaddam IT you bunch of wimpy f____rs! On it goes. I spent some time a few years back with (in)famous US record executive Artie Mogull. He was full of outrageous stories and had written a synopsis for a proposed book about his life in the music business. While boss of UA, Paul Anka was signed to the label. Artie's story goes like this: "...The day after Elvis died, my V.P. of Marketing walked into a meeting and announced RCA had orders for $100 million worth of Presley albums. To be funny I said, "Christ, there's our solution, let's shoot Paul Anka". Everyone laughed....Now skip three weeks, it's 3.30am and I'm fast asleep. The phone rings, it's Anka, the story has circulated back to him and he's in a rage. But when you've been at this (the record business) as long as me, you can think in your sleep. I waited for him to spout his rage and then said, ' Paul, you a ****ing idiot. Do you realise you were the only artist I could think of whose death would warrant those kind of sales ?'. 'J**** C*****', he said, ' I never thought of it that way'. The artist's ego had reared its head". The book never materialised, as far as I know......Pity ! Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:42:57 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Dobie Gray Don Charles wrote: Spectropoppers will certainly be familiar with the singles from (Dobie Gray's) album, "The In Crowd" and "See You At The Go-Go" . . . both records are definitely Wall of Sound cops, besides being irresistibly danceable. If memory serves correctly wasn't it Carol Kaye, Hal Blaine and the wonderful gang who played the tracks on these?? Kingsley -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:32:42 +0000 From: Joe Foster Subject: New Rev-Olas! Whole new bunch of stuff on Rev-Ola http://www.revola.co.uk/ Check 'em all out.....let me know what you think....! all the best Joe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:52:14 -0000 From: Kingsley Abbott Subject: Troggs Clark wrote: How bout the bonus CD of the "Troggs Argue"?? Reminded me of a nice little moment...last year I happened to find myself backstage to do an interview with fine bassist Colin Hodgkinson, and Reg Presley was in the same room. Rather than an update on the f- word script, he was telling all who were listening about the relative quality of his years crop of broad beans. He then grinned and muttered in his still broad Hampshire accent "This ain't very rock 'n' roll, is it!" Kingsley :-) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:55:37 -0500 From: Steve Grant Subject: Re: Celebrity pottymouths etc How bout the bonus CD of the "Troggs Argue"?? A legit release of a bunch of "f" words while "discussing" their recording session! A full blown version of "Harrison says to McCartney: 'I'll Play if you want me to or I won't play if you don't want me to:'" Similarly, in "Universal Mind Decoder" on the "Notorious Byrd Brothers" CD David Crosby just abuses Michael Clarke nonstop for several minutes. The others just stand there and barely say anything. Completely creepy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:33:52 +0000 From: Richard Hattersley Subject: Re: Unchained Melody According to the Official Righteous Brothers website, "Unchained Melody" was recorded in a single studio take. Wow ! Amazing. I'll let the bass player off then! I guess they didn't spend a lot of time on it when it was not intended to be the A side. So ironic that it has turned into such a massive record. On the other side of the coin, how many average joes have even heard of Hung On You. By the way, sorry for posting about the Bill Medley/Spector debate but I missed the talk about it last year (busy time at work). and I'm sure there have been new members added since then who missed it too. Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:06:55 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bryant Subject: Re: Other Cover Versions / Beach Boys doo wop David Coyle wrote: I will have to say that one doo-wop song that benefitted from a remake was "Barbara Ann" by the Regents. The remake was never my favorite Beach Boys song, but then I heard the Regents version, which is rather monotonous by comparison. Throwing in those Beach Boys harmonies and Brian Wilson falsetto only improved on it. I realize that the BB's were having fun with the song, rather than making fun of it. There's a difference, in my opinion. Great BB versions of doo wop on their 15 Big Ones album - In the Still Of The Night, A Casual Look and Talk To Me. They did a few doowops on early albums (Why do fools fall in love, etc) but if they'd have done a whole doo wop album with the Spectorian production of In the Still of the Night it would have been pretty good. When the '60s rolled around, I think the tendency in remakes was to up the tempo and crank up the volume, rather than to sanitize or satirize. While the original Isley Brothers version of "Twist And Shout" may be more danceable than the Beatles version, there's no question that the . latter is a stomping powerhouse. Likewise their "Money" which surely beats the original. pb -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: "Don't Give Up On Me" Pardon my iggerance, but is this song "Don't Give Up On Me" also the title song on soul man Solomon Burke's recent album? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:16:31 -0000 From: Bill Reed Subject: Re: Righteous Brothers sing Bonner & Gordon "Whatever Happened To Happy" by any artist so it was a wonderful surprise to hear it by the Righteous Brothers. 'That' Alan Gordon did say that he thought that "Whatever Happened To Happy" was over- produced... The producer of this and several other tracks from the same period was Joe Wissert, perhaps best known as the producer of the Turtles and Gordon Lightfoot. Also from the same session came Bonner & Gordon's "Melancholy Music Man." I talked to Joe about these when I wrote my article about arranger Nick DeCaro for the Japanese publication "Record Collectors" a few years ago. I am not certain, however, that Joe was accorded official ("over"?) production credit. As a point of info, Hatfield and Medley were not in the studio at the same time when these tracks were recorded. Conflicting schedules? Their voices were recorded separately then mixed, thus making for a fairly complicated production scheme. Bill Reed http://www.cllrdr.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:51:29 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: The Association - Collectors Choice Reissues I made a trip to my local Virgin Records Store and was surprised to see that Collector's Choice had reissued several of the Association's original LPs on CD. Years overdue, in my opinion...anyway I was able to snap up "Birthday" which has long been a favorite of mine. Also saw "Renaissance" which I have on LP, I may pick that one up later. Hopefully they are releasing all of the group's LPs. No bonus tracks as is usual with them, but I'm glad somebody finally got around to putting these out at a reasonable price. Until now, the only option was to buy the Japanese imports at 25 bucks apiece! Art Longmire -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:29:13 -0000 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Sandy Posey / Toni Wine Patrick wrote: Also, I recently got a copy of Sandy Posey's version of Your Conception of Love (written by Doc Pomus and Toni Wine) which is a perfect mix of that Dylan cynicism and Monkees styled pop that was so appealing in the late 1960s. Anyone have any more information on this lost little classic tune? Did anyone else try there hand at it or did Toni do a demo which is floating around? I'm only aware of one other Pomus-Wine collaboration, which is "Bad girl" by Romy Bishop, from round about the same period, but quite different in .....er.... conception. I haven't found any other versions of either song. Toni Wine demos would be a wonderful find. Peter -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:17:46 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: The Poor (New Release from Sonic Past Music) Ron Weekes wrote: "Help The Poor: The Complete Recordings of The Poor featuring Randy Meisner" is part of Sonic Past Music's third set of releases. I wrote a review of the Rev-ola disc compiling The Poor's music. Sounds like it's slightly different so take a look: http://www.gullbuy.com/buy/2003/9_9/poor.htm :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:50:54 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: 60s radio commercials Clark Besch: Hi, I have posted my old recording of the 7Up jingle from my original reel to reel recording of it March 68 on WCFL's Ron Britain show in Chicago that I sent to Bob Irwin. I suggest you get the 45 from Sundazed if you really like it. Won't keep it up long, as the quality is not great and there are many things to get on Musica, I'm sure. Just a quick note to mention that "King B" Ron Britian is back on the air in Chicago on WRLL, "Real Oldies 1690" playing mid 50's - to - early 60's Rock and Pop mixed with MOR standards. You can listen to it online at http://realoldies1690.com/main.html Its not WLS or WCFL but its great to hear these old timers back on the airwaves! Billy http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:14:20 -0500 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Righteous Brothers / Mac & Mike It's been brought to my attention that my recent musica posting of the Righteous Brothers' unreleased recording of Gordon & Bonner's "Whatever Happened To Happy" had a significant defect in it (truncated approx. 15 sec's. before the finish). I have replaced the faulty version with a good one (which I have double-checked this time), so those interested in this rare gem are urged to return and relisten. I apologize for any inconvenience this screw-up might've caused. On an unrelated matter, another song currently up there credited to Mike & Michael reminds me to ask if any of y'all have a 45 by Mac & Mike, of Rockin' Teens b/w Be My Next (Glory 273, 1958). For that matter, I'm also interested in another version of Be My Next (Capitol, 1958), by Joel Grey. --Phil M. End

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