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Spectropop - Digest Number 1074



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Foreign language versions
           From: Eddy 
      2. Re: The Ronstadt law
           From: Mike 
      3. Re: Foreign language versions
           From: Frank 
      4. Re: That Alan Gordon's song catalogue
           From: Andres 
      5. Timi Yuro
           From: Tim L. 
      6. Lulu / Barbara English
           From: Mick Patrick 
      7. Re: Sam Chalpin......age 65 / Ed Chalpin
           From: James Botticelli 
      8. Re: Speaking of Lulu
           From: gblacagroups 
      9. Re: Peter Lacey
           From: Chris Allen 
     10. Re: Words & Music
           From: Artie Wayne 
     11. Re: Jack Nitzsche
           From: Artie Wayne 
     12. Re: Simon & Garfunkle
           From: Bill George 
     13. Re: The Ronstadt law
           From: Shawn Baldwin 
     14. Re: Foreign language versions
           From: Steve Harvey 
     15. Re: Foreign language versions
           From: Phil Milstein 
     16. Pantomime Dames
           From: Steve Harvey 
     17. Re: Dee Dee Warwick
           From: Mike 
     18. Is "Silence" golden?
           From: David A. Young 
     19. Id and Nancy
           From: David A. Young 
     20. "I Think It's Gonna Rain"
           From: Hugo M. 
     21. Re: Sam Chalpin......age 65 / Ed Chalpin
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     22. Re: Nitzsche / Dorsey Burnette
           From: Martin Roberts 
     23. Re: Foreign language versions
           From: Frank 
     24. Re: "Beatles"
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     25. Re: Duh!
           From: Mike Rashkow 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:53:30 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Foreign language versions Billy G. Spradlin wrote: > Someone at Ace or Castle should compile a CD of foreign language > hits. Phil Milstein: > Funny you should mention that -- I'm working on just such a collection > right now. Not for commercial release, but for my own amusement. I'm > just about finished with the track selections, but am still looking for > the Stones' Italian version of "As Tears Go By," entitled "Con Le Mie > Lacrime." Whoever can lead me to that track will certainly qualify for > my "favors owed" list! Phil, The Stones' "Con le mie lacrime" is available on the Black Box bootleg, but only on the (re-issued) 4-cd version, not on the original 3-cd copy. I do have a copy...And while I'm here... let's not forget the Beatles' "Sie Liebt Dich" / "Komm gibt mir deine Hand." Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:00:08 +0100 From: Mike Subject: Re: The Ronstadt law Bill George wrote: > At least one exception: (Linda Ronstadt's version of) "You're No > Good" is better than the original to my ears. James Botticelli replied: > Once you hear Dee Dee Warwick do it you'll swear off Linda. Hi, Have none of you ever heard of Betty Everett, alas now dead. Betty made the original record and it is still the best. Listen carefully and feel the ongoing sadness, pain and despair and no shouting. Mike (Moderator's Note: The best rendition of "You're No Good" is a matter of opinion. However, although Betty Everett had the hit version, it is a fact that the *original* was recorded by Dee Dee Warwick. We must forgive Mike his error.) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:22:54 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Foreign language versions Phil Milstein: > Funny you should mention that -- I'm working on just such a collection > right now. Not for commercial release, but for my own amusement. I'm > just about finished with the track selections, but am still looking for > the Stones' Italian version of "As Tears Go By," entitled "Con Le Mie > Lacrime." Whoever can lead me to that track will certainly qualify for > my "favors owed" list! Haven't got this one but I have a whole LP of major Motown acts singing in Italian. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:34:10 +0400 From: Andres Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon's song catalogue That Alan Gordon; > Clark asked if I could list my songs with artists? I would have to > consult Karl Baker, he knows more than I do!!! To be perfectly candid > with you, I am learning here at S`POP of covers I never knew about > myself. So thank you all for telling me. Yes, please! We need this list! And if you could say a couple of words about 1976 song 'The Beatles' (how the idea came, who was in the studio, was it a hit). Thank you very much, Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:36:08 -0000 From: Tim L. Subject: Timi Yuro Can anyone help me with some background to "It'll never be over for me" - writer, producer, other background? I see several other artists released the song - whose version came first, and did any of them have chart success? Thanks, TIM L -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:06:37 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Lulu / Barbara English Scott Swanson: > Does anyone out there have a copy of her rare 1965 B-side > "Stop Foolin' Around"? And if so......could you please, > please, PLEASE post it to musica? :) Phil Chapman: > Yes, it's the flip of the equally rare "Tell Me Like It Is" :-) > Hear it in musica while you can. Yes, yes, very nice, but not as good as the even rarer :-) original American version by the one and only Barbara English, released on Reprise 0349. It too is now playing in musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Take a listen and identify those backing girls. The A-side - "Small Town Girl (With Big Town Dreams)", as covered in the UK by Dusty Springfield - was even better. Barbara was at the S'pop Shindig in New York, looking very glamorous at the bar. We chatted, I swooned. I've placed a pic of the lovely lady from the event in the S'pop photo section. She was a fixture on the Brill Building scene, cutting demos (and answering the phone) at Aaron Schroeder Music. I wonder if Artie Wayne or Rashkovsky knew her? Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:03:19 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Sam Chalpin......age 65 / Ed Chalpin Scott Charbonneau wrote: > (Ed Chalpin) ... the man responsible for all those collections of > pre-fame (Jimi Hendrix) jams that have been flooding the marketplace > ever since. I've been searching for the focus of all evil in the world for some time now. I do believe you've helped me stumble onto a clue or two!! Thanks. -- James Botticelli "Were The Words You Said The Words I Thought I Heard?" -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:30:25 -0000 From: gblacagroups Subject: Re: Speaking of Lulu When I went to London, England, in the 1980s, I saw Lulu as the star of "Peter Pan." I was lucky to get backstage and meet her as well. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:24:04 -0400 From: Chris Allen Subject: Re: Peter Lacey Previously; > The only link I can find for Peter Lacey is his record company site > which has two mp3's you scroll down to. I did hear more of Lacey's > music when David Ponak's "Liquid Room" was featured in these hallowed > pages. There are 4 samples on Peter Lacey's own homepage here: http://peterlacey.homestead.com/SongSamples.html Enjoy. Chris -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Words & Music Bill George: > No, they should both be credited. If the song was originally > written WITH lyrics, it necessarily shaped the music as well, > so both composer and lyricist created the whole. However, if > a song is written as an instrumental, and someone adds words > later, they should only be credited when the lyrics are used; > they didn't play a part in the creation of the original piece. > Does that make sense? Bill......How ya' doin'? You're absolutely correct. All the publishing companies I've worked with have used that formula. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche Martin.............How ya' Doin'? I just had a chance to go through The Jack Nitzsche website...........you did an excellent job!! As I was going over the discography I noticed that Jack arranged "Invisible Chains" by Dorsey Burnette, which I wrote with Ben Raleigh. I haven't heard it in years.........could you post it to Musica? Thanks and regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:23:03 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Simon & Garfunkle Country Paul; > "Simon belted out "Bridge Over Troubled Water" ??? That has to be a mistake. Why wouldn't Art be singing that? Great to hear the Everly Brothers were on stage. Sorry to have missed Stu Phillips' in-store appearance. I had an appointment that started late and ended later. I will have to pick up the book though. I'm glad he had a good crowd show up! -Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:49:46 -0500 From: Shawn Baldwin Subject: Re: The Ronstadt law Bill George wrote: > At least one exception: (Linda Ronstadt's version of) "You're No > Good" is better than the original to my ears. James Botticelli: > Once you hear Dee Dee Warwick do it you'll swear off Linda. Yeah, DeeDee, Cissy Houston and Dionne really cook on that one! Shawn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Re: Foreign language versions How about including "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me" by Dusty and "Beyond The Sea" by Darin, both tunes translated into the foreign tongue, English! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:44:31 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Foreign language versions Eddy wrote: > And while I'm here... let's not forget the Beatles' "Sie Liebt > Dich" / "Komm gibt mir deine Hand." Both are on there. Frank wrote: > Haven't got this one but I have a whole LP of major Motown acts > singing in Italian. So THAT explains why there are so many Motown-in-Italian versions! A number of these will be included as well. Thanks for the tips, --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Pantomime Dames gblacagroups wrote: > When I went to London, England, in the 1980s, I saw Lulu as the star > of "Peter Pan." I was lucky to get backstage and meet her as well. Caught Bowie in the same role once. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:55:31 +0100 From: Mike Subject: Re: Dee Dee Warwick Bill George wrote: > At least one exception: (Linda Ronstadt's version of) "You're No > Good" is better than the original to my ears. James Botticelli replied: > Once you hear Dee Dee Warwick do it you'll swear off Linda. Me: > Have none of you ever heard of Betty Everett, alas now dead. Betty > made the original record and it is still the best. Listen carefully > and feel the ongoing sadness, pain and despair and no shouting. A Spectropop Moderator: > The best rendition of "You're No Good" is a matter of opinion. > However, although Betty Everett had the hit version, it is a fact > that the *original* was recorded by Dee Dee Warwick. We must forgive > Mike his error. Hi, I have some records of Dee Dee Warwick and her sister and aunt Cissy Houston - all great but don't know this record must try to find it. I stand corrected does anybody know a web site for Dee Dee? Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:59:38 -0000 From: David A. Young Subject: Is "Silence" golden? Greetings, earthlings, It's been 1.5 months since the single release of Starsailor's Phil Spector-produced "Silence Is Easy." A British listmember was kind enough to let us know at that time that it had debuted at number eight on the UK charts. What happened to it after that, please? David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:08 -0000 From: David A. Young Subject: Id and Nancy It's probably merely a coincidence having nothing to do with the "Nancy Sinatra and Suzy Jane Hokum are one" rumor discussed here recently, but I did notice when listening to Nancy's hit "In Our Time" a couple of days ago that it contains a lyrical reference to "the wizard of id." David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:34:01 -0000 From: Hugo M. Subject: "I Think It's Gonna Rain" Browsing through some auction listings in one o' them magazines and I saw a version of this song recorded by THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE on an Abnak 45 (#149). Since it's been under discussion lately, I just thought I'd mention... Oom-mow... Hugo M. http://free.hostdepartment.com/P/PME -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:33:30 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Sam Chalpin......age 65 / Ed Chalpin Scott Charbonneau wrote: > (Ed Chalpin) ... the man responsible for all those collections of > pre-fame (Jimi Hendrix) jams that have been flooding the marketplace > ever since. Jimmy Botticelli: > I've been searching for the focus of all evil in the world for some > time now. I do believe you've helped me stumble onto a clue or two!! > Thanks. Wait a little while. I will tell you about Ed Chalpin. Dirtbag. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:23:59 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Nitzsche / Dorsey Burnette Artie asked: > Martin.............How ya' Doin'? I just had a chance to go through > The Jack Nitzsche website...........you did an excellent job!! As I > was going over the discography I noticed that Jack arranged > "Invisible Chains" by Dorsey Burnette, which I wrote with Ben Raleigh. > I haven't heard it in years.........could you post it to Musica? Hello Artie, Thanks for asking, bit stiff in the morning, don't run up the stairs anymore, glasses for reading... thanks for asking :-) How are you doing?! Thanks for your kind words on the site. Remiss of me not to notice your writing credit on what is a blinding track. Normally I'd save it for Jack Nitzsche's Record of the Week but as it's you...the track is now playing at musica: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/ Best, Martin http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:19:19 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: Foreign language versions Steve Harvey: > How about including "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me" by Dusty and > "Beyond The Sea" by Darin, both tunes translated into the foreign > tongue, English! Those are adaptations of foreign songs by different artists. There are hundreds of those. What was meant (I think) was original artists singing not in their native tongues. Like the Beatles in German, Stevie Wonder in Italian, Sonny and Cher in French... Those are rarer. If you're looking for foreign language covers by local artists, I could list a few hundreds in French only since most of the big US and British hits of the 6Os were covered by French singers. And as far as I know, the same goes for Germany, Spain and Italy. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:42:27 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: "Beatles" Andres asked about a song I wrote, "Beatles". It was on the flip side of a single on RCA called "Step Up To The Mike" by The Extragordonary Band. The record was never a hit. The inspiration of course was my feeling of love for the Fab 4 and what tey have meant to me and the whole world. Best That alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:24:40 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Duh! > We must forgive Mike his error. Thank God another Mike makes faux pas. Di da, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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