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Spectropop - Digest Number 1071



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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Song Casting
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      2. Grizzly Cub Koda
           From: Phil Milstein 
      3. Re: Jake Holmes
           From: Phil Milstein 
      4. Re: Mel Torme's "Cast Your Fate"
           From: TD Bell 
      5. Re: Mel Torme
           From: Simon White 
      6. Bob (s) And Earl
           From: Simon White 
      7. "Fodder," You Say?
           From: Chris A 
      8. Artist info required.
           From: Lee 
      9. Re: Am I The Same Girl/Soulful Strut
           From: Bill George 
     10. Re: Lulu
           From: Bill George 
     11. Foreign language re-writes
           From: Patrick Rands 
     12. Re: St Patrick
           From: Ian Slater 
     13. Randy Newman
           From: Artie Wayne 
     14. Diane Renay is coming back East!
           From: Ronnie Allen 
     15. Re: Food fight!!!!
           From: Artie Wayne 
     16. Like Young
           From: Austin Powell 
     17. Re: "Fodder," You Say?
           From: Phil Milstein 
     18. Dora Hall sings Raul Abeyta
           From: Ian Chapman 


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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:07:50 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Song Casting Artie, like your song casting ideas. The real title of my Streisand hit is "My Heart Belongs To Me, The Publishing Belongs To THEM". Best, That Alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:37:38 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Grizzly Cub Koda The upcoming Disney movie "Brother Bear" includes a character that is a grizzly cub named Koda. How is that for a belated tribute? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:38:39 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Jake Holmes Phil Chapman wrote: > I know nothing of Jake Holmes, other than an album > I found lying around in the early 70s. I fell in love with > the title track "So Close, So Very Far To Go", and never > really played the rest of the LP. Was this a hit? A moderate one here in the U.S. Sorry to say that's all I know by him. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:20:14 -0400 From: TD Bell Subject: Re: Mel Torme's "Cast Your Fate" Art Longmire wrote: > Also love his version of "I'm Comin' Home Baby", although > I heard he didn't care for the song when he recorded it. What > is it with singers not liking songs that I consider to be some > of their best stuff?! What Art says about Mel "The Velvet Fog" Torme and some singers not liking their best work is the reason why we have "critics" (you know who you are!). Sometimes artists are not the best judges. I was always entertained when Torme was a guest on Steve Allen's late night show and would sing the lyrics to Allen's "Gravy Waltz" or do a standard like "Blues in the Night". -- TD -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:42:34 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Mel Torme Art Longmire wrote: > Also love his version of "I'm Comin' Home Baby", although > I heard he didn't care for the song when he recorded it. What > is it with singers not liking songs that I consider to be some > of their best stuff?! Mel recorded it twice - once for Atlantic in '62 and then for his Columbia album "Right Now' in 1966, which is worth its weight in gold. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:59:15 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Bob (s) And Earl Phil Chapman wrote: > One of the most interesting things to me is the couple of > studio shots of some of 'The Clan' on the back cover. Our > utterly marvellous Northern expert has identified two of > the guys as BOBby Day AND EARL Nelson. I'm wondering who > the gals are. One has to be careful here - there were two "Bobs" over time and this one looks like Bobby Byrd alias Bobby Day to me and not the accepted (in the eyes of the adoring public) face of Bob and Earl, Bob Relf. For the full story, have a look at - http://www.ritchie-hardin.com/soul/bobearl0.html It's well worth the trip ! Simon -- Rilleh ! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:23:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Chris A Subject: "Fodder," You Say? Phil Milstein wrote: > Lyrics without music make good fodder for a 7th grade English > class. Tell that to the estates of Johnny Mercer, Ira Gershwin. E.Y. Harburg, Dorothy Fields, and Lorenz Hart. * * * On a slightly less contentious note ... Your talk of Jake Holmes coincides with my curiosity about the music (hitherto unknown to me) which he and Bob Gaudio wrote for Sinatra's "Watertown" album. Particularly the song "For A While," which was also covered by Nina Simone. When both Simone and Frank Sinatra pay attention to a song, my instinct tells me something's there. Music worth chasing down? c. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:50:43 -0000 From: Lee Subject: Artist info required. Hi, Can anyone help me out with any details of a female artist I have a 45 by. Celia Marie - Walk With Me - Era Records Regards Lee -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:30:39 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Am I The Same Girl/Soulful Strut Nick Archer asked: > Which came first, Barbara Acklin's vocal "Am I the Same Girl", > or the instrumental "Soulful Strut"? Well that explains why I heard an instrumental version of a recent Swing Out Sister song on the oldies station the other night! I was beginning to think Swing Out Sister stole it. But now I realize it was a remake of a remake. Great song anyway. -Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:47:41 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Lulu > I thought her best Atco recording was "Oh Me Oh My (I'm A > Fool For You Baby)" Lisa Hartman covered this on her 1979 LP "Hold On". Great version too. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:24:47 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Foreign language re-writes You all have got me thinking about songs re-written for foreign markets. The German version translation of "You Don't Own Me" was just posted over at the Lesley Gore list. Goodbye Tony Goodbye Tony. We are no longer happy together. Goodbye Tony. Today you leave me with my sorrow Forget our pain Forget all we did together Forget me once and for all Evening brings me hurt inside Oh, Goodbye Tony. We are no longer happy together. Goodbye Tony. Today you leave me with my sorrow Forget every kiss you gave me Let us make a clean break of it Forget every moment we spent together Forget the experience of feeling wonderful The hurt still remains inside Goodbye, Goodbye, Oh, Tony goodbye Oh forget our pain Oh forget all we did together Forget me once and for all Evening brings me hurt inside Forget the experience of feeling wonderful The hurt still remains inside Goodbye, Goodbye, Oh Tony goodbye. Does anyone have any other translations floating around? It's interesting to see just how much a song can be changed, or perhaps needs to be changed to sell in the foreign markets because of idioms which don't compute. On a related note, anyone know anything about Vine Buggy? I think he may have re-written a bunch of songs for the French market, I see his name all over a Claude Francois album I have, but I don't know who he is. Always loved his name! :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:50:57 +0100 From: Ian Slater Subject: Re: St Patrick Rashkovsky praised: > Kudos and huzzahs to our own Mick Patrick, "Master of The > Masters" for the masterful job he did on the liner notes > for "Phil's Spectre". Is this guy good or what? I think it's hard or impossible to over-rate the contribution Mick has made to our hobby in creating so many great re-issues, carrying out such meticulous research and making his knowledge available to us. It was one of his Ace compilations (Kiss n'Tell - Ace CDCHD 330) that boosted my own interest in pop/soul/girl- groups, that had fluctuated between latent and moderate since, erm, 1961. Anything with his name attached is of guaranteed quality, and the same goes for oft-collaborator Malcolm Baumgart. And the CDs are all legitimate copyright productions with all the extra costs, negotiation, and general effort that must entail. But the quality shows in the results. What really amazes me is that all this is his hobby too and he manages to do it all alongside his day-job and the rigours of commuting into London. Sorry to embarrass you Mick, mate, but you deserve the praise: and we do rather take you for granted. Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Randy Newman Randy Newman was among the artists I represented at Warner Bros. Music in the early seventies. I'm proud to say that I got Bobby Darin to cut "Sail Away" on his last session. As I remember.......Ray Charles was about the 30th artist to cover the song. regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:51 EDT From: Ronnie Allen Subject: Diane Renay is coming back East! Most of you are probably aware that I hosted a special three- hour interview show with Diane Renay earlier this year called "Diane Renay And Friends." Diane is best-known of course for her 1964 top-ten smash "Navy Blue" and the successful followup hit "Kiss Me Sailor" but many of you may be aware she also had several regional hits as well, including "Tender" and "Growin' Up Too Fast" and -- quite possibly my own personal favorite -- "Watch Out Sally." Diane was born and raised in Philadelphia but, for the past several years, has been living in Las Vegas. I know, from the many e-mails I received, that Diane has lots of fans in the East Coast portion of the country, several of whom explicitly expressed the hope that Diane would someday make an appearance on the East Coast. As it turns out, it's gonna happen next week. Diane will be making her first East Coast professional appearance in close to 40 years. She will be meeting and greeting friends and fans and signing autographs for three days next week (Thursday, Friday and Saturday, October 23rd through 25th) at the "Friends Of Old-Time Radio" Convention, which is being held at the Holiday Inn in Newark, NJ. Two other recording stars who will be appearing with Diane are Paul Petersen, who sang the top-ten hit "My Dad" and was one of Diane's "friends" on the above-mentioned radio show, and Rupert Holmes, who hit #1 with "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" and also wrote the Buoys' infamous hit "Timothy"!). I will be at the convention for all three days as well so if any of you attend please say "hi" to me as well as to Diane! Ronnie Allen E-mail: RonnieOldiesGuy@aol.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:43:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Food fight!!!! That Alan wrote: > Mark Frumento, has suggested Artie Wayne join the rockin' > opposition. Artie, I know a boy from the Bronx would never > side against a Brooklyn boy, right? Alan........How ya' Doin'? I'm Bronx born and Bronx Bred..... ...........If I didn't escape I'd be Bronx dead!!! regards, Artie Wayne -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:44:08 +0100 From: Austin Powell Subject: Like Young Phil Milstein wrote: > And Andre Previn/David Rose's "Like Young" also had > lyrics put to it, but I don't remember who wrote them or > sang it. Phil: I've got a vocal of "Like Young" by Ann Henry (US Dynasty label 625 - UK Top Rank 292). The writers' credits are Previn/ Webster. I've never found out anything about Dynasty Records or Ms Henry ......Anybody got any clues ? Austin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:23 +0000 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: "Fodder," You Say? me: > Lyrics without music make good fodder for a 7th grade English > class. Chris A wrote: > Tell that to the estates of Johnny Mercer, Ira Gershwin. E.Y. > Harburg, Dorothy Fields, and Lorenz Hart. Masters all, but how often do we recite their lyrics? Intact, I mean, not as isolated couplets. (That said, I'll admit I was being glib with my original comment, but only for the sake of contrast.) --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:04:20 -0000 From: Ian Chapman Subject: Dora Hall sings Raul Abeyta I just got a great record by the one and only Dora Hall entitled "She's Comin' Back". Raul Abeyta is credited as the writer (actually the label says "Paul Abeyta", but we know who they meant....) I was particularly pleased to find this, since Raul - often in collaboration with Gary Usher - was responsible for one or two of my all-time favourites e.g. Wayne Newton's "Comin' On Too Strong", Keith Green's "Go Go Getter" and Bobby Sherman's "It Hurts Me". Does anyone know of another version of this song, "She's/He's Comin' Back"? (Both titles are listed on the BMI site) Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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