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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: "What Goes On?"
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      2. "Cast Your Fate" with lyrics, "Lesley's World"
           From: Art Longmire 
      3. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
           From: Mikey 
      4. Re: Food fight!!!!!
           From: Artie Wayne 
      5. The Rogues from Buffalo
           From: Art Longmire 
      6. Re: Lulu
           From: bnbnk 
      7. Re: Bobby Vee
           From: Bob 
      8. ST. PATRICK
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      9. Re: The Parrots
           From: Ken Bell 
     10. Re: "What Goes On?"
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     11. Re: Instrumental "songs"?
           From: Kurt Benbenek 
     12. Re: The Parrots
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     13. Re: Food fight!!!!!
           From: Mark Frumento 
     14. Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
           From: MopTopMike 
     15. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     16. Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
           From: James Botticelli 
     17. Re: Canadian Rogues
           From: MopTopMike 
     18. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     19. Revolution Revelation
           From: Steve Harvey 
     20. Lesley Miller
           From: Mark T 
     21. Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C.
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     22. Razor's Edge
           From: Mark T 
     23. Eternity's Children on Gear Fab
           From: Mark T 
     24. Re: Lulu
           From: Ken Silverwood 
     25. In Crowd
           From: Mark T 


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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:51:06 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: "What Goes On?" Don Charles: > Are you the same Alan Gordon who wrote the wonderful Brazilian- > flavored song "What Goes On?" for The Archies? Don: BINGO, How do you guys do it!!! Yes Ritchie Adams and I wrote that song. I never cashed the royaltie check, I framed it - 50 cents!!! That record was recently beat by a check I got far an Alice Cooper song "Some Folks". The amount?.....1 cent!!!!! That alan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:51:14 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: "Cast Your Fate" with lyrics, "Lesley's World" I was going through a box of 45s last night and came across an Atlantic 45 of Mel Torme's vocal version of Vince Guaraldi's "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" (spelled as "Winds" on my copy). That reminded me of the superb version of the song by Shelby Flint, and another great version by We Five. The instrumental version by Sounds Orchestral was one of the very first instrumentals I remember liking as a kid - in fact I've never heard a bad version of this song! Also glad to hear so many people like "Lesley's World" by Orpheus - I wasn't aware of the Lesley Lorber-Alan Lorber connection on this. One review I saw a while ago on Orpheus compared their sound to that of Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds. Art -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:53:17 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!! I have a great love song from the late 60s on tape called "Melody For An Unknown Girl" I need to know the Artist and record label if possible. If all goes well, this song might be included on a new "Love" Cd next year. Oh yes, its NOT the Paul Revere and The Raiders version. Help me guys!!! Mikey (Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in 1966? Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:42:12 +0100 From: Artie Wayne Subject: Re: Food fight!!!!! I guess changing my name to Mark Alan would just add to the confusion ........I guess it's back to the drawing board!! regards, Artie Wayne P.S. .....and speaking of Alans......Allan Rinde just put some pictures from the Rocktober fest in Palm Springs with Lou Christie, The Tokens, The Angels, etc. up on Toni Wine's website: http://www.geocities.com/toniwine/index.html -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:23:11 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: The Rogues from Buffalo Tom Taber mentioned a group from Buffalo called the Rogues who recorded a b-side of "Train Kept A-Rollin'". I just wanted to say that the A-side "You Better Look Now" is one of my all-time favorite tunes- a ballad with terrific Byrds-style guitar and a great, earnest- sounding lead vocal. I have it on one of the "Teenage Shutdown" CD compilations. Art -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:11:27 -0700 From: bnbnk Subject: Re: Lulu Bill George: > I really like Lulu's Atco work. "To Sir With Love", regardless how > pretty it is, just isn't very representative of what Lulu was > capable of. It's too bad she never really "made it" over here. Her > Bowie covers are great too! Especially her version of Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World"! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:45 -0000 From: Bob Subject: Re: Bobby Vee That Alan Gordon: > I will tell you this, "Take Good Care Of My Baby", "Run To > Him", "Please Don't Ask About Barbara" and "The Night Has > A Thousand Eyes" are great songs and Bobby is a great artist. > What is Bobby up to these days? Alan, Bobby is still touring and recording having released a new CD a few months ago called "I Wouldn't Change a Thing" He has his own state of the art recording studio in St. Joseph, MN near his home. The studio is located in an old bank building with the vocal booth in the vault! (of course). You can check out his website at http://www.bobbyvee.com and my site on Yahoo, The Bobby Vee Collectors Club at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thebobbyveecollectorsclub You can email me with your address at Veefriends@yahoo.com and I'll get you a CDR of Double Good Feeling! Bob -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:27:49 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: ST. PATRICK Kudos and huzzahs to our own Mick Patrick, "Master of The Masters" for the masterful job he did on the liner notes for Phil's Spectre. Is this guy good or what? Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:30:45 -0400 From: Ken Bell Subject: Re: The Parrots That Alan Gordon: > Garry and myself were the Parrots. We were also Elmo and Almo > ("When the Good Sunshines"), and along with Peter Sando we > were the Barracudas ("The Dance At St. Francis"). Holy Cow, you were another Anders and Poncia :) only more. I loved the music by Anders and Ponica, although I don't remember if they wrote their own music or sang others. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:02 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: "What Goes On?" That Alan Gordon: > That record was recently beat by a check I got far an Alice > Cooper song "Some Folks". The amount?.....1 cent!!!!! They'll take it back on the next statement marked "Paid In Error". Di da, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:04:02 -0700 From: Kurt Benbenek Subject: Re: Instrumental "songs"? Kurt Benbenek: > Speaking of instrumentals... I'd struggled for years trying to come > up with a list of my favorite songs...without including instrumentals. Steve Grant: > Only an obsessive pedant like me would cavil at this usage, but ... > instrumentals aren't "songs." Yes, I freely use the word the same > way you do. Steve, You make an interesting point. Are pop instrumentals 'songs'? I think so, yes. Pop instrumentals are often assigned fourth-class status because they lack words. They may not even be considered 'songs' or finished compositions because they lack lyrics or a human voice. A pop instrumental may lack lyrics and a voice. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's not a song. Improvisation done on a guitar, piano, sax (even drum and bass, or scratching done on a turntable) takes the place of the human voice. Musicians 'sing' through their instruments. Music is an expression of the basic 'song' in an individual's heart or Soul. Or it can be the 'song' expressed by an entire instrumental Jazz band, Surf band, R & B group, etc The Chantay's "Pipeline" is just as much of a song as "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling". Steve Cropper is 'singing his song' while he's muscling though that concise guitar solo on "Green Onions" A good portion of the unreleased "Smile" is simply Brian Wilson expressing himself 'in song' instrumentally..or in non-sensical, non-lyrical ways. - Kurt -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:33:36 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: The Parrots Alan Gordon wrote: > Garry and myself were the Parrots. We were also Elmo and Almo > ("When the Good Sunshines"), and along with Peter Sando we > were the Barracudas ("The Dance At St. Francis"). Thanks for the info, Alan. So you and Garry covered yourselves when you recorded "Lady Fingers" with the Barracuda! I haven't heard the Barracuda recording of your song "Julie", but I sure like the version by my old Ft. Lauderdale friends, Game. I like their demo of "Goodbye Surprise", too! Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:38 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Re: Food fight!!!!! Artie Wayne wrote: > I guess changing my name to Mark Alan would just add > to the confusion Artie - if you do that then we can definitely take on the Alans if you come on our side. Make your choice. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:23 -0000 From: MopTopMike Subject: Re: The Rogues from Buffalo Art Longmire: > Tom Taber mentioned a group from Buffalo called the Rogues > who recorded a b-side of "Train Kept A-Rollin'". I just > wanted to say that the A-side "You Better Look Now" is one > of my all-time favorite tunes- The Rogues (well, this crew from the Williamsport area of Buffalo) also recorded two singles on the Thunderbird label after their magnum opus on the Audition label. The best being the ace '67 Beatle-esque "secondary Man". And I agree on "You Better Look Now" - mid-60s jangly folk rock never sounded any better! MopTopMike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:59:36 -0000 From: Jeff Lemlich Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!! Mikey wrote: > I have a great love song from the late 60s on tape called "Melody > For An Unknown Girl" I need to know the Artist and record label if > possible. > Oh yes, its NOT the Paul Revere and The Raiders version. > (Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in 1966? > Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator) Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator is right. The Unknowns were a studio side-project of Steve Alaimo, Mark Lindsay, and Keith Allison, during down-time in the taping of the "Where The Action Is" TV show. They did a pretty good version of the Raiders' song "Tighter" for Marlin Records in '67. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:00:23 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The Rogues from Buffalo Art Longmire wrote: > I have it on one of the "Teenage Shutdown" CD compilations. Is that the one with the dorky acne-faced skinny loser boys in a high school hall during class-passing gazing like sheep at the barbie-doll blondes walking past? Funniest cover ever! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:23:20 -0000 From: MopTopMike Subject: Re: Canadian Rogues The Canadian Rogues might fool people who believe everything they read on a record label, but to those folks who saw them perform in their hometown of Lakeland, Florida, the name was a clever deception. As listmember Jeff L. can vouch (and go into more detail), the Canadian Rogues released a total of four singles...their debut was a 2-sided killer, "You Better Stop"/"Have You Found Somebody New", on the Fuller label from Tampa in mid 1965. The second 45 was released on two labels - The Charay label out of Texas in 1966, then reissued on the Palmer label from Michigan: "Oop Poo Pah Doo"/"Keep In Touch"; the B side being the killer Stones-y pounder and better track. A 45 on the Tampa-based Paris Tower label in '67 "Run And Hide" b/w "Love And Dreams", was followed by a pair of covers on the vanity "Rogue" label ("Do You Love Me"/ "Mickey's Monkey"). They travelled throughout the southeast region of the USA, and were still performing as of a few years back. At least one member has passed on. MopTopMike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:40:41 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!! > (Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in > 1966? Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator) The* Unknowns* were Mark Lindsay, Keith Allison & Steve Alaimo it says here. Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Revolution Revelation Alan, What's the story on the Joe Butler LP, Revolution Revelation '69 which he tried to pass off as a Lovin' Spoonful LP? You guys were on it. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:53:55 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: Lesley Miller I am assuming that the Lesley's song that is being spoken about by Orpheus is Lesley Miller, who was married to Alan Lorber. She had 5 or 6 singles on RCA and MGM and most of them are quite good. Anyone know anything more about her? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:12:35 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C. I have a version of "Cast Your Fate etc" by Steve Alaimo from mid 1965 this was the only version with words I heard until a couple of years ago. It seems the words are noticeably different in each of the versions mentioned. There is also an instrumental version by the "Marketts" which I happen to have. Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:55:48 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: Razor's Edge They had 4 singles on Pow and except for one psychedelic track, they are all quite good. I haven't heard their songs as the American Beatles but I know they had 2 on Roulette and 2 on BYU. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:59:36 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: Eternity's Children on Gear Fab Nice release but does anyone know why they included the A-sides of the Linda Lawley and Charles Ross singles but not the B-sides. At 16 tracks there was certainly time and space for inclusion. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:25:54 +0100 From: Ken Silverwood Subject: Re: Lulu Bill George: > I really like Lulu's Atco work. "To Sir With Love", > regardless how pretty it is, just isn't very representative > of what Lulu was capable of. I thought her best Atco recording was " Oh Me Oh My (I'm A Fool For You Baby ), do I recall this as a B J Thomas "b" side ? Ken On The West Coast. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:57:51 -0000 From: Mark T Subject: In Crowd There were quite a few different In Crowds. The one with two singles on Viva I don't think is the same as the Abnak one that backed Jon and Robin. I think that is related to (or may be) The Five Americans. There is also an In Crowd that had a nice surfy 2-sider on Musicor. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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