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Spectropop - Digest Number 1061



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: What is this song???
           From: Orion 
      2. Re: Ritchie Adams / The Fireflies
           From: Tom Taber 
      3. Re: The Settlers / Cindy Kent
           From: Richard Havers 
      4. Re: Maxine Brown website
           From: Mike 
      5. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics
           From: Tom Taber 
      6. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics
           From: Guy Lawrence 
      7. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics
           From: Eddy 
      8. Re: Happy Together
           From: That Alan Gordon 
      9. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics / Walk Don't Run
           From: Mikey 
     10. Re: Ritchie Adams / The Fireflies
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     11. Re: That Mark Wirtz?
           From: Clark Besch 
     12. grrr
           From: Alan Gordon 
     13. Whatever Happened To Happy
           From: Michel Gignac 
     14. Hudson Brothers
           From: Mark Frumento 
     15. Randy's Marie
           From: Alan Gordon 
     16. The Bermudas
           From: George 
     17. Re: Melancholy Music Man
           From: Peter Richmond 
     18. Re: Ritchie Adams
           From: Simon White 
     19. Re: Hudson Brothers
           From: MopTopMike 
     20. Instrumentals with lyrics
           From: Peter Richmond 
     21. Re: Multiples
           From: James Botticelli 
     22. Randy Newman / Alan Gordon
           From: Harvey Williams 
     23. Re: Happy Together / the two Mr. Gordons
           From: Phil Milstein 
     24. Re: That Alan Gordon
           From: Clark Besch 
     25. Re: Who Was Lois Fletcher?
           From: Clark Besch 


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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:30:15 -0500 From: Orion Subject: Re: What is this song??? Tom wrote: > There's a new Infiniti commercial that features what sounds > like a late 60s Spector-esque pop song (I think its called > "As They Fall"). I'm familiar enough with Spector's catalog > to know its not him but I cannot for the life of me identify > the artist. The lead singer has a distinctive baritone voice > sounding a bit like a young Sinatra. However, judging by the > prominence of the background vocals I'm thinking it has got > to be a band rather than an individual. The song you are talking about is "As They All Fall" by Orpheus. Orion -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Taber Subject: Re: Ritchie Adams / The Fireflies Old Rashkovsky wrote: > For us old folks, Ritchie Adams goes as far back as being the lead > singer on The Fireflies, "You Were Mine". A real oldie/goodie. I caught the Fireflies doing "You Were Mine" a few weeks back, I believe on one of those PBS fundraisers, and it was the most faithful to the original records 40-years-on re-creations I have ever heard. Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:35:30 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: The Settlers / Cindy Kent Austin Powell wrote: > (The Settlers' lead singer) Cindy, whose surname I still can't recall, > became a dee-jay and I think I'm right in saying she worked for the > satellite christian radio station UCB. Cindy Kent. Here's a link to what she's up to today, still working as a DJ: http://www.premier.org.uk/radio/presenters/cindyk.html Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:38:52 +0100 From: Mike Subject: Re: Maxine Brown website The S'pop Team announced: > Dear Members, Legendary soul singer Maxine Brown - "All In My Mind", > "Oh No Not My Baby", "Funny" - has a new website. Take a look: > http://www.maxinebrown.com/ Be sure to check out the photo gallery > for some 1960s shots of the lovely lady with the Ronettes and the > Crystals. Enjoy! Fantastic - one of my all time favourite soul singers (or is that R&B? whichever) - with Irma Thomas, Margie Joseph and Carla Thomas. Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:02:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Taber Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics West Coast Ken asked: > ... how many other instrumentals were later given lyrics(?) I've wondered if "Walk, Don't Run" ever had lyrics - if not, here goes: Walk, don't you run, better walk don't you run now; Walk, don't you run - Better walk, don't you run now. Walk and don't run - better walk, don't run, don't run, don't ru-u-u-n!" Now perhaps you all will be cursed with having to sing along as I have since these came to me a few years back. Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:14:23 +0100 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics Ken wrote: > how many other instrumentals were later given lyrics? Off the top of my head (and without double checking) - the Bob Crewe Generation's "Music To Watch Girls By" was given lyrics and sung by Andy Williams and was recently a hit again here in the UK. Sammy Davis Jnr sang a vocal version of the "Hawaii 5-0" theme called something like "You Can Count On Me" (would love to hear that!) and Young Holt Unlimited's "Soulful Strut" became "Am I The Same Girl?" when sung by Barbara Acklin. Then there was the Buckinghams vocal version of Cannonball Adderley's "Mercy, Mercy, Mercy" and the Modernaires take on "Spanish Flea" - a track I'm extremely keen to get hold of (can anyone help off-list?). Guy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TweedleeDumsDrive-In/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:20:07 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics West Coast Ken asked: > ... how many other instrumentals were later given lyrics? Paul McCartney's "Hot as sun" (off the first album) had lyrics added by Tim Rice for Elaine Paige in 1981. Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:23:55 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Happy Together Steve wrote: > ...didn`t the Turtles fly you guys in to perform the song? No Steve, as I recall Gary Klein, who was working for Koppelman and Rubin in L.A., gave the demo to the guys who owned White Whale. They in turn gave it to the Turtles. The first time we met them was at the studio when they were recording "She`d Rather Be With Me". Best, That alan gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:24:46 -0400 From: Mikey Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics / Walk Don't Run West Coast Ken asked: > ... how many other instrumentals were later given lyrics(?) Tom Taber replied: > I've wondered if "Walk, Don't Run" ever had lyrics - if not, here goes: > Walk, don't you run, better walk don't you run now; > Walk, don't you run - Better walk, don't you run now. > Walk and don't run - better walk, don't run, don't run, don't ru-u-u-n!" > Now perhaps you all will be cursed with having to sing along as I have > since these came to me a few years back. No need to make them up, Tom....there WAS a Vocal version of Walk Don't Run, done by one Tommy Leonetti on RCA in 1961!! Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:57:13 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Ritchie Adams / The Fireflies Tom, the PBS oldies show did have the Fireflies doing a fine version of "You Were Mine" but it was NOT Ritchie Adams singing lead vocal, like he did on the record. That alan gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:36:14 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: That Mark Wirtz? That Alan Gordon asked: > Mark, are you the "Teenage Opera" Mark Wirtz? Mark Wirtz: > Yep, I'm the guilty one :) See Mark, one of my faves ("Teenage Opera") is known by all! Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:41:31 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: grrr From: Mark Frumento Subject: Two Alan Gordons: Happy Together? > By the way I think it's great how the two Alan Gordons made room > for each other. I don't know if I'll be so accomodating when the > more famous Mark Frumento shows up. "More famous???!!!" Whyyyy, I oughta... (Obviously you're not a comic fan, pally) The comicbook artist/writer schnoodle formerly known as the once and future... Al Gordon, ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:48:49 -0000 From: Michel Gignac Subject: Whatever Happened To Happy "Whatever Happened To Happy" was also recorded by Mojo (aka Mojo Men). This is my favorite Mojos' track. Thank you Alan and Garry for so many wonderful compositions! Michel Gignac -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:19:57 -0000 From: Mark Frumento Subject: Hudson Brothers The Hudson Brothers releases are a mixed bag. A few years ago Varese Sarabande put put a "Best Of" compilation that has some great songs on it. Some of their material is so close to the Abbey Road period Beatles that you need to may do a doubletake upon hearing them. I'm not an authority on their vinyl output but I know they released at least two LPs on Rocket Records (Ba Fa and Totally Out of Control) and I believe both were produced by Bernie Taupin. The tracks from those LPs on the Varese comp are excellent. Previous to their Rocket Records engagement I believe their LPs were a mixture of pop and comedy... as the public would have expected. The tracks I've heard from Hollywood Situation (1974) which was in this period are also excellent. Before they were a comedy act, as Scott points out, two of the Hudsons were in a band called The New Yorkers. Several of the New Yorkers' songs have popped up on compilations over the years. Again, the songs are all well written and well sung Beatle knock-offs. Spectopoppers interested in more should ask about them on the Pop 45 list. I know there are several Hudson experts over there. They are well worth a listen despite what you may have thought of their TV show! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:21:13 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Randy's Marie From: Mike Rashkow: > R.N., I dare not speak the name, should not be dissected > --he should be deified." Actually, my little "treatise" on Marie was meant as heart-felt appreciative accolades and simple commentary, rather than dissection. ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:45:20 -0000 From: George Subject: The Bermudas Hi, can anyone tell me of any other Bermudas' songs, apart from 'Donnie' and 'Chu Sen Ling'? And any idea where I can hear them? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:28:19 +0100 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Re: Melancholy Music Man That Alan Gordon wrote; > Hi Peter, I was in a group called the Magicians. Garry Bonner was > lead singer. John Townley played guitar, I played drums and Allan > "Jake" Jacobs played guitar. "Melancholy Music Man" was written for > and about Jake. He is one of the great Village personalities ever. > He enriched my life in so many ways. His later work can be found on > his Bunky and Jake and Jake and the Family Jewel`s recordings. The > Righteous Brothers did a fine job on "Melancholy Music Man" but my > favorite is "Don`t Give Up On Me". "Whatever Happened To Happy" [also > done by Bobby Darin] was an overproduced, over the top session and > as I recall, Bobby Hatfield said he felt like a sideman on the date. > You can hardly hear him!!! Hope that give`s you a little insight. Thanks for that Alan, it was interesting to hear the story behind "Melancholy Music Man" after all these years of listening to the track, was this part of a planned album that never materialised or were the three songs just a one off session. On a general note, "Melancholy Music Man" had remained a 'single only' track until 1987 when it appeared on a Righteous Brothers compilation cassette "Timeless Treasures" on Everest Europa 821 in 1987. In 1989 it was issued for the first time in stereo on the excellent Righteous Brothers "Anthology 62-74" double album on Rhino 71488. The B side "Don't Give Up On Me" has never appeared on an official album release, it was included on a German Righteous Brothers compilation "Blue Eyed Soul Brothers" in 2000 but the sound quality is very poor, obviously not taken from the master tapes. Peter Righteous Brothers Discography http://freespace.virgin.net/p.richmond/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:24:39 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Ritchie Adams That alan gordon: > That indeed is the same Ritchie Adams. He also wrote "Tossin and > Turnin" and "After The Lovin" and of course sng lead on the > Firefllies' record "You Were Mine". Ritchie also has a Northern Soul favourite in "I Can't Escape From You". -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:31:28 -0000 From: MopTopMike Subject: Re: Hudson Brothers Mark Frumento mentioned; > Before they were a comedy act, as Scott points out, two of the > Hudsons were in a band called The New Yorkers. Several of the New > Yorkers' songs have popped up on compilations over the years. Just joined up on this list after surfing about... The New Yorkers debut 45 was a single given out by a local auto dealership in the Portland, Oregon area...the Fury Four are on one side, while the New Yorkers "Things Are Changing", a jangley-beat pop garage number is on the other side of the single. On the Santana label, released in late 1966 before the New Yorkers were signed to Scepter records. I am not aware of any comp with "Things Are Changing" included. MopTopMike PS - Shout out to WLS Clark - we're finally on the same list! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:29:37 +0100 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Instrumentals with lyrics Ken On The West Coast wrote: > I recall Country Paul saying he always thought of Duane Eddy's guitar > as his voice, which reminded me that James Darren did a vocal for > "Because They're Young" which I think was from a film of the same title. > Which then made me think how many other instrumentals were later given > lyrics. Just two off the top of my head: The Drifters' "Stranger On The > Shore" and Bobby Rydell's "Telstar" or "Magic Star". Any others? Doesn't quite fit the criteria but might be of interest none the less, "Dance On" which was originally a vocal track by an American group (can't remember who but I am sure someone will) before the Shadows had a number one hit in the UK with their instrumental version of it in December 1962. Kathy Kirby then had a vocal version in August 1963 peaking at number 11 in the UK charts. Peter. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:31:00 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Multiples I heard the two Alans are taking on the four Arties at a party. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:37:59 +0100 From: Harvey Williams Subject: Randy Newman / Alan Gordon First, I must thank Alan Gordon for all those fantastic songs. Far too many to mention here (obviously), but the one I've been getting most enjoyment from the past few months is "She Knows", a 1967 b-side by Bobby Darin. Great song, great vocal, great arrangement. Did anyone else cover this one? The "other" Alan Gordon wrote: > Did the other acts/groups that you mentioned that covered Randy's > sarcasm, change the lyrics at all? That's the difference to me. > One is implied in Randy's wonderful sarcastic and innocent voice, > and also by just sorta knowing what Randy is about from listening > to him for so many years... and the other is indicated precisely > in the lyrics. A couple of examples I can think of are Linda Ronstadts cover of "Sail Away" in which she chages the line "Climb aboard, little wog..." to the somewhat less "offensive" (ie accurate) "Climb aboard, little one..". Another is (I think it was) Judy Collins' version of "I Think It's Going To Rain Today", in which the line "That's the way to treat a friend" is given a complete volte-face to "That's no way to treat a friend". Sometimes you have to treat the market with kid gloves, I guess. Harvey Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:19:12 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Happy Together / the two Mr. Gordons That Alan Gordon wrote: > Can anyone blame me for being so fond of S`pop, All you wonderful > people that remember these songs, after all, they were written in > hopes of standing the test of time. An interesting comment, especially insofar as most writers, producers and/or musicians "of the day" report that they had little or no eye toward posterity when creating their music. Mark Frumento: > By the way I think it's great how the two Alan Gordons made room > for each other. I don't know if I'll be so accomodating when the > more famous Mark Frumento shows up. Alan Gordon wrote: > "More famous???!!!" Whyyyy, I oughta... With all due respect to all the Alans and Marks involved, I suspect that what Mark F. meant was "more famous than me", not more famous than Alan Gordon. --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:40:22 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon Hi and welcome "That" Alan Gordon! I have had the pleasure of doing some work on both the Turtles "Happy Together" Sundazed reissue as well as the Varese "Happy Together: Best of White Whale Records" compilation. When working with Cary Mansfield at Varese on that project, he basically felt that if "Happy Together" were not on the Cd, it would not be a "Best of White Whale". I agree. That's how highly your song has been thought of by record execs still today! It would be like a "Best of Uni Records" without "Incense and Peppermints". Anyway, just wanted to ditto everyone elses comments on the greatness of that song. Even oversaturation by oldies radio has not hurt it much. I do wish they'd play #12 "You Know What I Mean" or top 20 "She's My Girl", and I know your song hurts those possibilities, but that's a consultant doing his job (I guess). Yet they play P.F. Sloan's "You Baby" (Only a #20 record) a lot too. Wonder why? Anyway, if I am not losing my memory, I believe you and Gary Bonner are in the great Rhino Turtles history video performing "Happy Together" as you did on the demo you decribe. You were playing drum part with your hands slapping your lap while singing, correct? So anyone wanna see the "demo in action", pull that Turtles video out! Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:42:16 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Who Was Lois Fletcher? Bob Rashkow reported: > BTW, according to Joel Whitburn, Lois "I Am What I Am" Fletcher had > previous recording experience, all right; she was a member of Randy > Sparks' Back Porch Majority (there's another collectible bunch of 45s > for us folkies...! Thanks, Bobster! I believe they were based outta Colorado? A less popular version of New Christy Minstrels? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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