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Spectropop - Digest Number 1058



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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
           From: Eddy 
      2. Re: Playboy Records
           From: Bill George 
      3. Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
           From: Frank 
      4. Stu Phillips in NYC
           From: bsgkr2000 
      5. Re: Hudson Brothers
           From: Bill George 
      6. Check out Cadence Records Story
           From: Mike Rashkow 
      7. Re: Lesley Gore - The "Small Talk" session
           From: Jim Allio 
      8. Randy For Gov'nor
           From: Alan Gordon 
      9. Re: Gold Star and other L.A. studios
           From: Gregg Luvoxx 
     10. Re: Two Alan Gordons
           From: Peter Lerner 
     11. Re: Playboy Records / Barbi Benton
           From: Phil Milstein 
     12. Re: Hudson Brothers
           From: Art Longmire 
     13. Re: That Alan Gordon / Melancholy Music Man
           From: Peter Richmond 
     14. Re: Gold Star and other L.A. studios
           From: Bryan 
     15. Re: Two Alan Gordons
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     16. Re: The Hudson Brothers
           From: Roger Smith 
     17. Mary Elizabeth (& other souls)
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     18. Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together
           From: Martin Jensen 
     19. Re: Melancholy Music Man
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     20. Who Was Lois Fletcher?
           From: Bob Rashkow 
     21. Re: Happy Together
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     22. Re: Happy Together
           From: That Alan Gordon 
     23. Re: Tim Gilbert 45
           From: nadarskil 
     24. Re: Lulu / Bert Berns / Jimmy Page
           From: Mick Patrick 
     25. Re: That Alan Gordon / The Magicians
           From: Scott Charbonneau 


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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:11:13 +0200 From: Eddy Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together Martin wrote: > I just want to let you know that 'Happy Together' is one of my all- > time favourite tunes. An incredibly catchy song - I can definately > NEVER grow tired of it. Or Howard Kaylans maginificent vocal for > that matter... And that goes for the Zappa version as well !! Eddy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:15:19 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Playboy Records > Have any of the Playboy cuts ever come out on CD? I wish someone would release the Barbi Benton LPs on CD. Her first two were country, but the third one would probably interest many people on this list, as there were songs from Neil Sedaka, Andrew Gold, Wendy Waldman, Tom Waits, Janis Ian, etc. Bill -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:21:19 +0200 From: Frank Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together Martin in Denmark wrote: > I just want to let you know that 'Happy Together' is one of my all- > time favourite tunes. And just in case you had any doubt, same goes for me in Paris, France where this classic was also covered in French and was a million seller for Richard Anthony. Frank -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:29:25 -0000 From: bsgkr2000 Subject: Stu Phillips in NYC A final reminder that Stu Phillips will be in NYC this coming week. He will be discussing his book and career at Barnes & Nobel, 1972 Broadway, 07 :00 PM til ? on Oct. 17th. On Oct. 16th, he will be lecturing at The Film Music Showcase, at DvDojo 310 Bowery at 1st St. 6:30 PM. Addmission for non members $15.00. bsgkr2000 -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:39:01 EDT From: Bill George Subject: Re: Hudson Brothers I remember their Saturday morning program in the 70s, and I saw them open for Olivia Newton-John once. But I don't remember hearing any of their songs on the radio, and I certainly can't name any titles. Is there anything that can be played to musica? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:13:00 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Check out Cadence Records Story Click here for the Cadence Records Story: http://www.bsnpubs.com/cadence/cadencestory.html I don't think Cadence Records has ever come up during my time with the group. Very interesting and eclectic label. Link above. I remember Jeannie Thomas always called him Mr. Bleyer--even when she was speaking with other people. Had a lot of respect for him. Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:31:43 EDT From: Jim Allio Subject: Re: Lesley Gore - The "Small Talk" session "Small Talk" was recorded February 12, 1968 at Century Sound Recordings, produced by Koppelmann and Rubin. Lesley noted, in interviews she gave in 1994, that the producers were exacting taskmasters who had specific things in mind and an implacable vision for how the vocals would sound. She said there was less collaboration than she was used to, but the two sides from that session that have been released, the terrific "Small Talk" and its B-side, the Laura Nyro-esque "Say What You See" are real treats. Interestingly, Gore also recorded "Sleep Tight," "Me About You" and "I'm With You" at the same session. They really worked that girl! Unfortunately, those tracks have yet to surface. I do remember Jackie DeShannon's excellent take on "Me About You." What a great song. Now there was one brilliant woman who not only wrote and sang great songs, but could hop on and ride just about any mini trend in pop in the 1960s. Jim Allio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:55:13 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Randy For Gov'nor From: Steve Harvey Subject: A randy, new man: > My piece came out in 1981 in Goldmine (James Brown cover) and got me > a mention in Greil Marcus' Mystery Train (just the 3rd and 4th > editions). That was worth more to me than the stinkin' $35 I got from > Goldmine for my 32 page typewritten piece on the early Randy. Congrats, Steve. It's always nice when someone you admire and respect gives out thoughtful kudos. Is Goldmine still run by the same folks that do (their sister mag?) Comic Shop News? Maggie Thompson was one of the main shakers there. > Got Faust and the interview disc with it, but have never gotten > around to listening to it. His later stuff doesn't do much for me. I just picked up the newest version of Randy's Faust. Mine has 2 discs, the second one with demos. Is there another one with an interview disc??? Man, I really love Faust. To me, it is the pinnacle of sarcastic but questioning moral-play - being about the true nature of virtue and cogent "religious linearity" (What the heck does that mean?) The casting is pretty dang perfect too. James Taylor's oboe-like tones as god... Bonnie Raite as the salty-singing sassy gal who's life goes down easy and perfect... Linda Ronstadt as the smooth-voiced innocent who falls in love with the perfect "bad-boy..." Don Henley - who is as perfectly cast as perfect can be - as the self-centered bad-boy egotist of angry insecurity... and of course Randy as the devil. > "A Boy Like You Needs A Girl Like Me" Is this on a boot? I've never heard it. > "Mama Told Me Not To Come..." You get the picture of this overgrown, > mama's boy fretting over the strange happenings at this party. Randy's live version on his second(?) album is so cool. peace, ~albabe -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:18:54 -0700 From: Gregg Luvoxx Subject: Re: Gold Star and other L.A. studios Actually, the strip mall mentioned here (the one with the Radio Shack) is on the corner of Vine and *Melrose*. The strip mall on the corner of Vine and Santa Monica does retain a bit of it's history in that there's a Chinese restaurant in it called 'Wok and Roll'. Another question: what exactly goes on in Art Laboe's studio on the corner of Sunset and Highland nowadays and what is the history of that building? Also, is TG Studios on Selma still operational? Yours truly, GL -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:55:47 +0100 From: Peter Lerner Subject: Re: Two Alan Gordons Mark wrote: > By the way I think it's great how the two Alan Gordons made room for > each other. I don't know if I'll be so accomodating when the more > famous Mark Frumento shows up. Mark - you'll be OK. When the more famous Peter Lerner found me (he's a jazz guitarist in Chicago) I felt good. He sent me his CDs (they're great!) and now I pretend I can play guitar. No doubt he pretends he works in local government in England - bet that wows the chicks! Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Moderator's note: Thanks, Peter, your messages are not only witty and informative, they are also always laid out in the preferred S'pop style, thus saving your over-worked moderators some valuable time. If only all members submitted such neat communications. Hint, hint! PS: How's Karen and the kids? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 16:05:31 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Playboy Records / Barbi Benton Bill George wrote: > I wish someone would release the Barbi Benton LPs on CD. Her first two > were country, but the third one would probably interest many people on > this list, as there were songs from Neil Sedaka, Andrew Gold, Wendy > Waldman, Tom Waits, Janis Ian, etc. I know this is a ridiculous question to ask vis-a-vis Barbi Benton but, could she sing? --Phil M. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:04:34 -0000 From: Art Longmire Subject: Re: Hudson Brothers Bill George wrote: > I remember their Saturday morning program in the 70s, and I saw them > open for Olivia Newton-John once. But I don't remember hearing any > of their songs on the radio, and I certainly can't name any titles. > Is there anything that can be played to musica? I also remember their show from back in the seventies. I never even knew until relatively recently that they were a recording group. I just remember the theme song to the show, "We're Gonna Razzle Dazzle You" I think it was called. I used to watch the show all the time and really liked it, but can barely remember details about it now, other than that it was a silly comedy show, kind of like a cross between the Three Stooges and the Monkees. One detail I can remember-they were always talking about a friend of theirs named Chucky Margolis. Of course, the oldest brother went on to marry Goldie Hawn and is the father of the actress Kate Hudson. Art -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:03:50 +0100 From: Peter Richmond Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Melancholy Music Man Good to have you aboard Alan: What's the story behind the Righteous Brothers "Melancholy Music Man", a complete departure for them at that point with this hauntingly wonderful song, coupled with a different producer in Joe Wissert and arranger Nick De Caro - was this written specifically for the Righteous Brothers, I have never heard of any other artists recording this great song. They also recorded another two of your songs "Don't Give Up On Me" which was used as the B side of "Melancholy Music Man" on the Verve 10507 single plus an unissued track recorded at the same time in February 1967, "What Ever Happened To Happy" - can you give us any insight to these two songs. Peter Righteous Brothers Discography: http://vspace.virgin.net/p.richmond/ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:41:26 -0700 From: Bryan Subject: Re: Gold Star and other L.A. studios > Another question: what exactly goes on in Art Laboe's studio on the > corner of Sunset and Highland nowadays and what is the history of that > building? I'm not sure if you're referring to the Original Sound Records offices (perhaps the studio was down the street at one time?), but if you are referring to Original Sound, the label is still operating -- with Laboe, Paul Politi and a small staff -- and are located at 7120 Sunset, which is very near the corner of La Brea (not Highland). The label continues to license their masters for release on compilations, etc. Bryan -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:57:06 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Two Alan Gordons Peter, have you ever seen the old Bogart movie "The Two Mrs. Carrols"? That Alan Gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:11:43 -0400 From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: The Hudson Brothers > I also remember their show from back in the seventies. I never even > knew until relatively recently that they were a recording group. I > just remember the theme song to the show, "We're Gonna Razzle Dazzle > You" I think it was called. I used to watch the show all the time and > really liked it, but can barely remember details about it now, other > than that it was a silly comedy show, kind of like a cross between > the Three Stooges and the Monkees. One detail I can remember-they > were always talking about a friend of theirs named Chucky Margolis. > Of course, the oldest brother went on to marry Goldie Hawn and is the > father of the actress Kate Hudson. I used to watch the show mainly to see Rod Hall and his Emu. :-) Mark Hudson, of the Hudson Brothers, is now a producer. He's produced recordings for Aerosmith, Hanson, Harry Nilsson, Ringo Starr, the Baha Men, Celine Dion, and others. He and Ringo recently formed their own record label. -- Roger -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:15:49 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Mary Elizabeth (& other souls) It's so great to have Preston Ritter and "that" Alan Gordon on the group. Preston, your drumming with the Electric Prunes is staggeringly brilliant! Certainly a big part of what made "...Too Much to Dream..." such a cool track! My ? for Alan is, Did you and Garry write a tune called "Mary Elizabeth"? I have a version by "The Magic Fleet" (DJ copy) on the short-lived Hot Biscuit label off Capitol, that also brought us the Epic Splendor and Timothy Carr, etc. This was also produced by Koppelman & Rubin if I'm not mistaken. Great song--was this originally done by the Osmonds during their period of only "local fame"? About West Coast studios. Anybody have any idea what stands currently in West LA or Culver City (can't think of the exact address, somewhere around 12200 on Washington?) on the old ARLEN site? OK, Pacific Coasters, start your engines....!! Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:17:38 -0000 From: Martin Jensen Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / Happy Together Me: > I just want to let you know that 'Happy Together' is one of my all- > time favourite tunes. An incredibly catchy song - I can definately > NEVER grow tired of it. Or Howard Kaylans maginificent vocal for > that matter... Eddy: > And that goes for the Zappa version as well !! AND for Flo & Eddie's reggae re-recording from 81. Actually, I was thinking about the often referred story of how the Turtles came across 'Happy Together', finding it among a bunch of demos. According to All Music Guide: "As legend has it, a demo of "Happy Together," recorded in a sparse, acoustic guitar and handclap arrangement, was passed on by a number of popular artists of the day only to be unearthed by the Turtles." I find it incredible that ANY artist would pass up on such a great song! Alan, if you read this, was 'Happy Together' written with any specific artist in mind? With regards Martin, Denmark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:18:34 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Melancholy Music Man Peter Richmond wrote: > What's the story behind the Righteous Brothers "Melancholy Music > Man", a complete departure for them at that point with this > hauntingly wonderful song, coupled with a different producer in Joe > Wissert and arranger Nick De Caro - was this written specifically > for the Righteous Brothers, I have never heard of any other artists > recording this great song. > > They also recorded another two of your songs "Don't Give Up On Me" > which was used as the B side of "Melancholy Music Man" on the Verve > 10507 single plus an unissued track recorded at the same time in > February 1967, "What Ever Happened To Happy" - can you give us any > insight to these two songs. Hi Peter, I was in a group called the Magicians. Garry Bonner was lead singer. John Townley played guitar, I played drums and Allan "Jake" Jacobs played guitar. "Melancholy Music Man" was written for and about Jake. He is one of the great Village personalities ever. He enriched my life in so many ways. His later work can be found on his Bunky and Jake and Jake and the Family Jewel`s recordings. The Righteous Brothers did a fine job on "Melancholy Music Man" but my favorite is "Don`t Give Up On Me". "Whatever Happened To Happy" [also done by Bobby Darin] was an overproduced, over the top session and as I recall, Bobby Hatfield said he felt like a sideman on the date. You can hardly hear him!!! Hope that give`s you a little insight. Best, That alan gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:24:52 EDT From: Bob Rashkow Subject: Who Was Lois Fletcher? BTW, according to Joel Whitburn, Lois "I Am What I Am" Fletcher had previous recording experience, all right; she was a member of Randy Sparks' Back Porch Majority (there's another collectible bunch of 45s for us folkies...!) Bobster -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:28:35 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Happy Together Frank, thank you so much, Music is the language that knows no borders. I would love to hear the French version by Mr. Anthony. Stay in touch and be well. Warmest Wishes, That alan gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 22 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:33:48 -0700 (MST) From: That Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Happy Together Eddy. It's all good!!! Some day soon I will share with all the group, the inspiration and how the song "Happy Together" was conceived and where it was written. Best, That alan gordon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 23 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:23:08 EDT From: nadarskil Subject: Re: Tim Gilbert 45 Clark Besch writes: > I played "If We Stick Together" to Musica. After listening to it > again, I still love it! Been in my faves since I taped it off KIMN > Denver when it was out. Finally found a copy 10 years later. Not > sure now about the PF Sloan reference I made above, but certainly a > Dylan-like lyric. Very odd stuff. Thanks Clark, much appreciated. Quite different from the Rainy Daze recordings. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 24 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:15:26 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Lulu / Bert Berns / Jimmy Page Albabe wrote: > I was only a very peripheral fan of Lulu until a friend of mine > let me watch a few of her appearances on "Ready, Steady, Go!" > that were recorded before she had a pop hit in the U.S. I > remember actually getting quite frisky, watching and listening > to her, as her whiskey, gravel-soaked, powerfully sultry voice > pealed the veneer off my heart...She belts the blues as well, or > better than most supposed "blues" artists. What friggin' pipes! Agreed, Lulu was, and remains, a sensational vocalist. I guess America remembers the wee lass best for "To Sir, With Love", a beautiful vocal performance, not to mention a really great song. However, Lulu's best work was already behind her by this time. Her earlier recordings for UK Decca (Parrot in the USA) were absolutely magnificent, especially the five tracks she made with the great Bert Berns producing: Here Comes The Night (Bert Russell) UK Decca 12017 / US Parrot 9714 The original version, pre Them, so there. That's Really Some Good (Rufus Thomas) UK Decca 12017 US original: Rufus & Carla. I'll Come running Over (Bert Russell, Ilene Stuart) UK Decca LP 4719 / US Parrot 9714 No US version of this song exists. You'll Never Leave Her (Bert Russell, Mike Stoller) UK Decca LP 4719 US original: the Isley Brothers. She Will Break Your Heart (Jerry Butler, Curtis Mayfield, Calvin Carter) UK Decca LP 4719 US original: the Impressions. Jimmy Page played guitar on all of these tracks, recorded in October 1964. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 25 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 03:48:04 -0000 From: Scott Charbonneau Subject: Re: That Alan Gordon / The Magicians Am a big fan of the Magicians' work; Lady Fingers in particular. Simply stunning track, great harmonies and guitar work. Scott -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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