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Spectropop - Digest Number 1037

               SPECTROPOP - Spectacular! Retro! Pop!

There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Chiffons LP on BT Puppy
           From: David Bell 
      2. Fading Yellow CDs
           From: Mark 
      3. Re: Bassett Hand; Skeeter Davis
           From: Phil Milstein 
      4. Re: Sugar Bear / Jerry Keller
           From: TD 
      5. Re: Bassett Hand
           From: Tom Taber 
      6. The Majority / Majority One
           From: Mark 
      7. Mono versus Stereo
           From: Matthew 
      8. como estas
           From: Clyde Eriwn Barretto 
      9. Re: Ray, Goodman & Brown
           From: Simon White 
     10. Re: Lou Toby
           From: Simon White 
     11. Re: Mark Wirtz
           From: Max Weiner 
     12. More on "The Fool Killer"
           From: James Cassidy 
     13. Re: "The Look Of Love"
           From: Richard Williams 
     14. Carol Kay / Carol Kaye
           From: Norman 
     15. Keely Smith
           From: Simon White 
     16. Oh . . . Kaye!
           From: Steve Harvey 
     17. Re: The mono "White Album"
           From: Alfie Noakes 
     18. Re: Sax for Dusty
           From: Max Weiner 
     19. Re: Soft Rock
           From: Patrick Rands 
     20. Stu Phillips appearances on the east coast
           From: Stu Phillips 
     21. Re: Recent CD: Skeeter Davis
           From: Jeffery Kennedy 

Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:10:11 EDT From: David Bell Subject: Re: Chiffons LP on BT Puppy I'm glad that my alert got through and hope that someone on Spectropop won this album. I bought my record on Ebay about a year ago and, strangely enough, my copy was also bought from an Australian dealer. David -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:19:52 -0000 From: Mark Subject: Fading Yellow CDs Here's my question. Are these more pop or more psych? In order words, what I usually go by is if Vernon Joynson hates something means its good and the more he likes it, the worse it is. So before I order these 5 CDs, how poppy are they? I like ultra-commercial records that sound like they could have and should have been Top 40 hits. Looking forward to the responses. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:01:23 -0400 From: Phil Milstein Subject: Re: Bassett Hand; Skeeter Davis Ken Silverwood wrote: > Does anyone know what the term BASSETT HAND means on Bang Records > labels? The liner notes to Robert Feldman's career retrospective LP "Roots Of S.O.B.*, Vol. 2" include this dedication (among several others): "To Richard Gottehrer & Gerald Goldstein: The 2 "G's in F.G.G., aka Niles & Giles Strange aka Bassett Hand, etc., etc., thank you for some of the best years of my life. The memories and the music will always be there." The collection includes two Bassett Hand tracks, "Happy Organ Shake" and "Soul Paradise," but offers no writing credits for these or any of its other tracks. As far as the origin of the pseudonym, perhaps it's an in-joke corruption of "bassett hound." Just a conjecture. Alfie Noakes wrote: > Is "What am I Gonna Do With You" the same as the Lesley Gore track of > the same name? If so, it's one of my all-time favourite recordings, > and the Lesley Gore version could have sat happily on the forthcoming > "Phil's Spectre" compilation on Ace. Same song; different track. --Phil M. *Sounds of Brooklyn -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:43:17 -0400 From: TD Subject: Re: Sugar Bear / Jerry Keller The Sugar Bear singing "Can't get enough of that Sugar Crisp--Keeps me goin' strong!" had to be at least ten years before '75. The tune Sugar Bear is singing is the same tune to "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho". The Sugar Bear artwork looks like it came from the same studio that produced "Linus, and His Friends"--with Sheldon Leonard as the voice of Linus. Sterling Holloway did a lot of voice work, from the narrator to Walt Dizney's "Peter and the Wolf" to the voice of "Winnie, the Pooh" (and I guess the web-page people got Sugar Bear and the Pooh Bear mixed up) -- td -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Taber Subject: Re: Bassett Hand Ken Silverwood wrote: > Does anyone know what the term BASSETT HAND means on > Bang Records labels? I know I have a really weird 45 by him called "Youm", which has sort of a surf sound to it (Youm is the only word [sound?] in it. No time to do a google search now... Tom Taber -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:28:19 -0000 From: Mark Subject: The Majority / Majority One Does anyone have a discography that they can post on this group? The Tapestry of Delights lists their UK 45s but they supposedly recorded further material in Europe after changing their name. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:45:48 EDT From: Matthew Subject: Mono versus Stereo While I've never been a big proponent one way or another in the mono vs. stereo debate, I do believe that records should be listened to in the recording format that they were originally released or approved. For example, I am led to believe that the only versions of Beatles records that George Martin actually produced were in mono and then somebody else would come in and remix them for stereo. My question for all of you is this: Is there a site on the internet that lists the differences between mono and stereo mixes. For example that Dylan's "Blonde On Blonde" contains totally different takes of certain songs in the two formats. Are there more examples of this? Matthew -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:52:27 EDT From: Clyde Eriwn Barretto Subject: como estas hello! just wanted to say I am new to the list. I always knew about Phil Spector but never really gave too much attention until one day I went to go sell a Phil Spector songbook on ebay and realized that I knew, heard and sung every song on that book over and over again. I just never really pay attention to detail sometimes... but anyways been listening to a lot of modern singer song writers such as Beck, Sondre Lerche, Josh Rouse and a band called The Decemberists... I am going to see David Bowie in New York for the first time as well this December! who I actually did not really start to appreciate until I met my girlfriend and realize that he's one of the best singer songwriters performers out there!!! Clyde Eriwn Barretto -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:22:49 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Ray, Goodman & Brown Stephane Rebeschini wrote: > Ray, Goodman & Brown (?)... ...were The Manhattans after they lost the rights to use the name. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:08:22 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Re: Lou Toby Stephane Rebeschini wrote: > He also released a LP "Meet Lou Toby" on Sano 1003 - year and > style unknown - and a funk 45 "Heavy Steppin'" circa 1972. I'd forgotton the 45 -I have it. Peach -Mint 6065 - 1974 The 'A' side "The Impeachment Story" is a cut up record credited to "Steel Jake and Jeff" and is in the style of Dickie Goodman - who was recently discussed here. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Weiner Subject: Re: Mark Wirtz Dear Mark Wirtz, Mant years ago I had a copy of "Out of his Head", a biography of Phil Spector (forgive me I can't remember the authors name), but he made reference to a Mark Wirtz that did a tribute album to Phil. By any chance are you that same Mark Wirtz? sincerely, Max J. Weiner -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:05:59 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: More on "The Fool Killer" Here's the plot summary of the 1965 film from '12-year-old George Mellish, tired of beatings for both real and fancied misdeeds at the hands of his foster parents,runs away from home by hopping a freight train and lands somewhere east of the Mississippi River. The first person he meets is Dirty Jim Helliman (Henry Hull)who lives in a fantastically filthy hovel and with whom George feels a kindred spirit, both having "suffered" at the hands of a clean woman. It is (really dirty) Dirty Jim that tells George of the mythical, eight-foot bogey man called "The Fool Killer." George gets sick and Dirty Jim takes him to town where Mrs.Ova Faversham (Charlotte Jones)takes charge of the feverish boy. When Blessing Angeline (Sindee Ann Richards), Mrs. Faversham's 10-year-old daughter, tells George that her mother intends to return him to his foster parents, George hits the road again. He meets Milo Bogardus (Anthony Perkins), a young Civil War veteran, who has been robbed of his memory by a war wound, and is as lost in his own way as George. THey come upon a camp meeting, where the fanatical Reverend Spotts is conducting a revivalist meeting and during the religious frenzy, George blacks out. He comes to and is alone, and is unaware that the Reverend has been murdered, and starts in his search to find Milo. He finds a home with the Dodds (Dana Elcar and Salome Jens), small town store keepers. When, at supper, Dodds makes mention of the murder of the Reverend Spotts, George blurts out that "The Fool Killer done it" and tells them the legend as told to him by Dirty Jim. That evening, while George lies in bed, a shadow appears at his window. It is the figure of a tall, gaunt apparition, axe in hand ready to strike---"The Fool Killer!"' According to, the theme song they ended up using was "The Ballad of the Fool Killer" by country singer David Houston. I've never heard it, but perhaps a country ballad was deemed more apropos for a post-Civil War setting than Burt's almost Kurt Weill-ian tune. Personally, I think the eerie verse melody is one of Burt's better ones, but the bland chorus is a letdown. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:13:22 +0100 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re: "The Look Of Love" Re Dusty Springfield's "The Look of Love" I've got an idea the tenor solo is by Tony Coe, a great British saxophonist much used by arrangers at the time. He was easily capable of that sort of brilliant Stan Getz pastiche. I haven't spoken to him for a few years, but I'll try to check it out. Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:34:26 +0930 From: Norman Subject: Carol Kay / Carol Kaye Hi Spectroppers, I need some info, and I am too lazy to research for it, so I will lay it at your feet. What can anyone tell me about Carol Kay who backed Tommy Dee on Three Stars? Also, did the session musician Carol Kaye ever do any vocal work in her early days? Thanks Norman -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:19:31 +0100 From: Simon White Subject: Keely Smith Having received a 45 from one of the more venerable Spectropop members, "Somethin' Wonderful Happened" by Keely Smith, I started to think after a few plays that it sounded a little familiar. Is it a film song? I have a memory of hearing it on a soundtrack sometime. It's produced by Tony Hatch, so can we find out? -- Simon I must get a little hand for this watch. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Oh . . . Kaye! Norman wrote: > Also, did the session musician Carol Kaye ever do > any vocal work in her early days? No, she was a jazz guitarist in the early days up until the early 60s when some bassist failed to show up for a session. Carol picked up the bass and the rest is history. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:25:31 -0000 From: Alfie Noakes Subject: Re: The mono "White Album" All the mixes on the mono version of "The White Album" were different to the stereo ones, by definition. When a multi-track recording is made, it has to be mixed down to mono, stereo (or surround nowadays), depending on how many speakers the listener is expected to have. The mixdown is a crucial part in the creative process in popular music, and is the stage where the loudness of indvidual instruments is decided, and many effects are added to the raw recordings: when multi-track recording was limited to four or less tracks, many artists used this stage to add more instrumentation and even vocals. With the advent of stereo recordings, artists began to produce mixes in both mono and stereo, but as stereo was initially a small and gimmicky market, this mix was usually little more than an afterthought. Consequently, when a recording was released, the mono mix often had the full creative input of the artist, whilst the stereo mix may have been finished by a junior engineer. In the case of The Beatles' recordings, the stereo versions are pretty crude, and for the most part comprise the instruments on one side, and the vocals on the other - great for karaoke, but substandard by any other guage. But as stereo was the prevailing format, these are the versions we're left with. The reason why the mono versions of albums often command such high prices on the collectors' market is not out of some prejudice against new-fangled stereo, but because the mixes are quite simply better. Any mono fan will be able to reel off a list of favourites where an instrument or hook is included, that is altogether missing from its stereo counterpart. I've never heard the mono mix of "The White Album" but from what I've heard, it's in a different league to the stereo version. I don't understand why, with the constant repackaging and remastering of albums, there aren't more audiophile versions in mono. It's more likely that we'll soon get to hear surround sound versions of our favourite songs, than hear them as they were originally intended. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Weiner Subject: Re: Sax for Dusty > "The Look Of Love" that I think was featured in the "Casino > Royale" fillum. "This is a job for Spectropop" I thought. Can > anyone help? > The movie version was conducted and arranged by Burt Bacharach, > I believe and probably done in Hollywood. That song was in "The Thomas Crown Affair" with Steve Mcqueen and Faye Dunaway. Max -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:39:09 -0000 From: Patrick Rands Subject: Re: Soft Rock Orion wrote: > "Soft Pop", "Sunshine Pop", "Pop Psyche" in my opinion those all > mean the samething. I think there are differences between the definitions listed above (as well as Soft Rock). The way I see Soft Rock is it's supposed to not make sense (in that rock-n-roll can't be soft, but something that rhymes with rock can be) and that's part of the charm of calling it soft rock. In other worrds, it's play on words. I, for one, refer to soft rock from the 60s as "60s soft rock", to make sure (maybe just to myself) that it's not the more slick sound of 70s soft rock. I also look at the entire genre (60s soft rock) as a precursor to the fame enjoyed by 70s soft rockers like The Carpenters; since most 60s soft rockers had nowhere near their amount of fame, I see these groups (The Match, Bergen White, Sundowners, Roger Nichols, etc) as setting the stage for the larger success of 70s soft rock. I also think sunshine pop and soft rock are different but often performed by the same groups (as well as harmony pop, soft psych and even bubblegum etc). :Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:20:04 -0000 From: Stu Phillips Subject: Stu Phillips appearances on the east coast Hi Spectropop fans from Stu Phillips Just a reminder to those in the NYC-NJ-Boston area, that I will be in your area from Oct. 16-Oct. 23. Would love to say hello personally. On Oct.16, 2003, he will be lecturing for the Film Music Network in New York City. Event to take place at: DV DoJo 310 Bowery at 1st St. (North of Houston) 6:30 PM. On Oct. 17, 2003, he will be in New York City at the Barnes & Nobel Bookstore, 1972 Broadway at 7:00 PM for a book discussion/signing. On Oct, 16-17th, 2003, Guest lecturer at The Laguardia High School of Music & Art and Performing Arts. 10:00 AM. On Oct.20-21, 2003, he will be at lecturing at The Berklee College of Music in Boston, Mass. 11:00 AM with a book signing to follow later in the day. On Oct. 23-24, 2003, he will be appearing at Friends of Old Time Radio Convention at The Holiday Inn-North, Newark, NJ. (All day Thursday & Friday morning, only.) >From Oct.24-26, 2003 he will be at the Galacticon convention in Los Angeles, CA which is taking place at the Sheraton Universal in Universal City. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:37:20 -0000 From: Jeffery Kennedy Subject: Re: Recent CD: Skeeter Davis After several delays, the Taragon Skeeter Davis CD is available and in shops. I picked up a copy last week. Most girl group buffs are probably familiar with most of the tracks, but many are new to CD (is this really the first CD reissue of Davis's "Sunglasses"?). The non-LP single tracks are a definite plus. "Don't Anybody Need My Love" is particularly fantastic. I think the biggest surprise, though, is "I Can't See Me Without You," from Davis's "What Does It Take..." LP: great, chugging arrangement with strange guitar effects and vocal group harmonies and a rather eerie atmosphere. This is a dream compilation for a Davis fan such as myself. I can think of only a few other tracks I wish had been included. The liner notes seem to suggest that Taragon is open to the possibility of issuing a second volume. The sonics are out of this world and 100% stereo. Highly recommended. Jeffery Kennedy San Francisco -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------

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