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Spectropop - Digest Number 1021



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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Comebacks
           From: Alfie Noakes 
      2. Re: Telephone song
           From: James Botticelli 
      3. Re: Crystals "Uptown" in stereo
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
      4. Unreleased or Not?
           From: markt439 
      5. Re: Shadow Morton
           From: Mick Patrick 
      6. Bear Mix-up
           From: James Cassidy 
      7. Re: Sugar Bear
           From: John Fox 
      8. Re: Diana Dawn
           From: Stephen M.H. Braitman 
      9. Re: Diana Dawn
           From: Mick Patrick 
     10. Re: Jerry Keller / Sugar Bear
           From: Jon Adelson 
     11. Re: Canada
           From: A. Zweig 
     12. Bits and Pieces
           From: Martin Roberts 
     13. Re: "This Magic Moment"
           From: Michael Edwards 
     14. Re: Tallyrand Music
           From: Mike Rashkow 
     15. "Teenage Dreams" Vol 7
           From: Michael Edwards 
     16. Re: Robin Clark - "Daddy Daddy"
           From: Michael Edwards 
     17. Re: James Ray CD
           From: Michael Edwards 
     18. Re: "Got My Mind Set On You" / Sugar Bear
           From: Bill Craig 
     19. Re: The Breakaways / Vicki Brown
           From: Ken Mortimer 
     20. Re: Sugar Bear
           From: Billy G. Spradlin 
     21. Scram #18 w/Emitt Rhodes, Marty Thau, Ramones...
           From: Kim Cooper 


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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:54:56 -0000 From: Alfie Noakes Subject: Re: Comebacks Susan Lang wrote: > As of right now he is working on a studio album, > putting the finishing touches on a show he will > headline next month for the Carl Wilson Foundation > at Royce Hall on the campus of UCLA with Sir Elton John, > and rehearsing for the mind-boggling premier of the Smile > tour, which begins in England in January. Thanks for the tip, Susan, and excuse the ambiguity. I caught Brian several times last year, and can't wait for the Smile gigs. Things can get a little fuzzy late at night. As emotional as those gigs were, I guess what I'd really like is for him to get behind the desk again. What he's doing now is wonderful, but it's maybe less a comeback, and more a consolidation of his genius. It must be fantastic for Brian to finally get to play in front of such appreciative audiences. Whilst The Beach Boys, in whatever guise they're in now, still play far bigger halls, there's barely a soul at a Brian Wilson gig who hasn't been deeply touched by his music. I was flabbergasted when I found out I was actually going to see Brian in person, then amazed when I heard he'd be doing Smile. Perhaps it's not so far-fetched to think he might just take the controls once more. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:24:37 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Telephone song Nancy M wrote: > On March 6,2003 Mike Edwards mentioned Robin Clark's "Daddy Daddy" > which was reissued on one of the A side girl group compilations > from Japan in the mid 90's. Does anyone know the title of the cd > and if it is still available? I have been searching for this song > for many years. Any info would be appreciated. You must mean "Daddy Daddy (Gotta Get A Phone In My Room)", AM radio hit here in the East Coast area. I don't have anything but it reminds me of "Busy Signal" by--was it the Lollipops? Anyone? JB -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:01:10 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Crystals "Uptown" in stereo DJ Jimmy B: > I got ("Uptown" by the Crystals) on a CD-R made by a stereo > weenie pal that relishes the "subversive" concept of having > stereo Spector...it's often his sole raison d'etre! His life > could use the proverbial shot in the arm. I heard a mock stereo version on one of the file sharing programs a year or two ago. They tried synching a early stereo mix (that 4-CD Spector Sessions bootleg) with the finished mono mix with the overdubbed strings. BTW I heard a stereo mix of the single version of Martha Reeves & The Vandellas classic "Jimmy Mack". I can't tell if it's a faked stereo mix or not. Whoever did it did a great job. Billy http://listen.to.jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:21:33 -0000 From: markt439 Subject: Unreleased or Not? I have had the following records on my want list for a long, long time and I am wondering if they really exist or if they were just listed on release lists but never really came out. Camel Drivers - Everybody's Got to Do his own thing (Buddah 85) Patty Duke - The Wall Came Tumbling Down (UA 50057) Shirley Jones - Walk in Silence (Bell 45350) Ginny Tiu - I've Got to Make Up With You (Amaret 104) We Five - Natural Way (MGM 14543) Al Wilson - Heavy Church (Rocky Road 30060) Babies - Party Time (Dunhill 4148) Any info on these records would be appreciated. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:56:54 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Shadow Morton Mike Rashkow: > ...Shadow Morton...drank a lot of Scotch...direct from the > bottle...Very intense guy, spoke in riddles. Used to make me > uncomfortable. Thought he was a pretty scary dude...he once > threatened to have a Mafia guy that he was tied into "take > care of me"...I was concerned enough to go and talk directly > to the guy (E.G. knew him too) and asked him straight out. He > told me that Shadow was "full of s--t"...Shadow was drunk > every time I saw him and always hitting on E.G...Is that > sufficient dishing the dirt? Hell yes! But do keep it coming (off-list, perhaps). I do have another question, though. One of the 40-odd compositions registered at BMI to George Morton is a song entitled "This Is My Story". There was a song of that title by Derek (y'pal Johnny Cymbal) on Bang 558 in 1968. Is it the same song? Anyone? I don't have this record. Thanks also to David G, David Y, Stephane, Guy and Scott for the Shadow Morton discography additions. I shall be in touch with each of you shortly. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:12:01 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Bear Mix-up Sterling Holloway *was* the voice talent for an animated bear, but it wasn't Sugar Bear; it was Disney's version of Winnie the Pooh. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:05:18 EDT From: John Fox Subject: Re: Sugar Bear Previously: > I also remember the beautiful Bing Crosby-like voice. However, > on the search engines I've only seen the name Sterling Holloway > given credit as the voice of Sugar Bear. Sterling Holloway was the voice of Winnie The Pooh in all the classic Disney cartoons. He had a very funny, high-pitched voice, even in old age, and (in my opinion) couldn't be Sugar Bear--who did happen to talk a lot like Bing Crosby with a relaxed drawl. John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:43:26 -0700 From: Stephen M.H. Braitman Subject: Re: Diana Dawn Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about Diana Dawn??? Stephen -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:37:55 +0100 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Diana Dawn Stephen M.H. Braitman: > Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about > Diana Dawn??? Ace Records have some tracks by the lovely Diana Dawn skedded for inclusion on a CD entitled (something like) "Boy Trouble: Gary Paxton's Girls". This project is the brainchild of Alec Palao. If *anyone* knows *anything* about Miss Dawn, it'll be the esteemed Mr Palao. All members of the Ace staff have their own page at their website, via which they can be emailed. You can find Alec Palao's page at the touch of your very eager fingertips right here: http://www.acerecords.co.uk/acestaff/ap.html Right, back to my copy of "Backstreet Girl". Mind you, I prefer the Adrienne Poster version. Jackie DeShannon's original demo is better still. Hey la, Mick Patrick -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:04:17 -0000 From: Jon Adelson Subject: Re: Jerry Keller / Sugar Bear Phil Milstein: > Well Sterling Holloway certainly had a high, sort of squeaky voice, > so the Crosbyish voice used for Sugar Bear could not have been his > (and thus may still have been Jerry Keller's). If yours' was the > "Can't get enough of Super Sugar Crisp" jingle, it was a gooder! I wish it were. Mine was mostly underscoring with Sugar Bear singing the words "Golden Sugar" several times. Not immortality material. John Fox: > Sterling Holloway was the voice of Winnie The Pooh in all the > lassic Disney cartoons. He had a very funny, high-pitched voice, > even in old age, and (in my opinion) couldn't be Sugar Bear--who > did happen to talk a lot like Bing Crosby with a relaxed drawl. Phil and John, thanks for the reply. I got the Sterling Holloway reference from http://www.tvacres.com/adanimals_sugarbear.htm , which simply came up on a search engine. I would bet on the spectropoppers any day :-) Jon -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:10:53 -0400 From: A. Zweig Subject: Re: Canada Denis Gagnon wrote: > Anybody else have any good Canadian soft rock recommendations? I assume you've heard of The Sugar Shoppe. Here are a few more obscure ones that sort of fit. Wayne Versage (he was the lead singer of The Shays before David Clayton Thomas) has at least one classic song "Flower Generation". The Sultan Street Nine. I don't even know if they actually existed but a lot of the songs were written by Greg Hambleton who was in a band called The Passing Fancy (and he's the brother of Fergus, a minor star in his own right.) Anyway this is one of the coolest records I own. There are tunes here that sound like the Velvet Underground playing Bacharach. And finally Doug Randle "Songs for the new industrial state". This was released on CBC records and everything I know about this guy and the record is what I read in the liner notes. It's sort of a concept record by a forty year old guy (in 1971) trying to make a record "of the times". And I think he succeeds way way more than he should have. I think it's almost a classic. I'm sure there are a thousand more examples. Oh and there are songs by both Kensington Market and The Paupers which sort of fit but I wouldn't call them soft rock per se. AZ -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:30:34 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Bits and Pieces >From the top: Stephen asked: > Come ON, guys! You mean NO ONE on this list knows anything about > Diana Dawn??? Sorry I don't but think I have a tape of the Aside of the first single. Does that help? :-) The Man From Uncle (funny name) asked; > Unreleased or Not? > Ginny Tiu - I've Got to Make Up With You (Amaret 104) Released and very nice too. Billy Sunshine, the other side. I recall I placed a similar, was it released or not regarding rumoured Girl Group tracks. No replies so I assume they were all myths. Shame. Stan Tinker wrote: > The Toronto-based girl group of the mid-sixties, the Willows > (formerly the Girlfriends), had a pretty big national hit in > 1966 on MGM with "My Kinda Guy". Ian replied: > The Willows were Canadian? I had no idea. I didn't know they were formerly The Girlfriends either. Am I correct to assume the 'Colpix', Girlfriends? Simon enquired: > But correct me if I'm wrong - there was a male Willows... Ian mentioned the doo-wop Willows, "Church Bells May Ring". But I'd hazard the guess that the 45 Simon knows was released by the Willows on the rather fab Heidi label. "Such A Night" with a very good Bob B Soxx-type arrangement and a lovely soul ballad flip, "Sit By The Fire". Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:06:08 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Re: "This Magic Moment" Robert Stewart's post discussing the Drifters' original version of this song prompted me to ask if anyone can help me find the UK 45 pressing of the late 60s' version by Jay & The Americans. It has a different intro than the hit US version. Thanks, Mike -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:32:18 EDT From: Mike Rashkow Subject: Re: Tallyrand Music Stuffed Animal wrote: > Not so! Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich helped Neil Diamond > start Tallyrand Music in the mid 1960s, and they were co-owners > of this publishing company with Neil. Some years later, they > let him buy out their shares. Of course, I defer to S.A.'s greater knowledge on all things having to do with Jose Barracuda and the Queen of the Hop. Di da, Rashkovsky -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 15 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:21:18 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: "Teenage Dreams" Vol 7 Hi Mikey, "Teenage Dreams" Vol 7 includes the following tracks: Artie Wayne/Where Does A Rock & Roll Singer Go Art Wayne/Try And Try Again I don't think the second title was by our Artie Wayne, which is a pity because it's a nice song. Also from the early years, try Artie and Danny Jordan as Jordan & Wayne with "Find A Little Happiness" (Diamond, 1962) - very nice. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 16 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:37:27 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Re: Robin Clark - "Daddy Daddy" Nancy M writes: > On March 6,2003 Mike Edwards mentioned Robin Clark's "Daddy Daddy" > which was reissued on one of the A side girl group compilations > from Japan in the mid 90's. Does anyone know the title of the cd > and if it is still available? I have been searching for this song > for many years. Any info would be appreciated. Yes, that's just the sort of thing he would mention. It's one of the best novelty songs ever. The CD is entitled, "Popsicles And Icicles Girls' Collection Vol 2". It came out on the Japanese A-side label in 1993 and has long been discontinued. I have posted a few messages to see whether or not some of our Japanese members knew if titles in this series were available at oldies' outlets in Japan but have not had any response. The CD is essential as many of the tracks haven't been anywhere near another CD, legit or otherwise. I love the opening track, "Mr. Magic Moon" by the Gleams (Kapp, 1963) which was written by Ellie Greenwich and her best songwriting partner, Tony Powers. Nancy, contact me offline and I'll see what I can do to help. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:51:20 -0000 From: Michael Edwards Subject: Re: James Ray CD Collectables has a James Ray CD out, "If You Gotta Make a Fool Of Somebody Golden Classics". They have it for sale at $4.98 at their website: http://www.oldies.com/product/view.cfm/id/51992.html I think it is essentially a reissue of James' early 60s' Caprice LP and includes "I've Got My Mind Set On You Pt. 1 Pt 2" - all 3 minutes 28 seconds of them. I thought that George Harrison owned this LP since the early 60s and that's how he knew the track. The CD also contains a good version of the standard, "Without A Song" which Arthur Alexander recorded at about the same time. Mike Edwards -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 18 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 03:22:41 -0000 From: Bill Craig Subject: Re: "Got My Mind Set On You" / Sugar Bear I guess I was recalling George referring to the writer (Rudy Clark) not the original artist to cut the song (James Ray). With regard to Sugar Bear, with his Bing Crosby/Dean Martin delivery, my research shows the voice was done by a nightclub comlc named Gerry Matthews. Bill Craig -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 19 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:42:20 +0100 From: Ken Mortimer Subject: Re: The Breakaways / Vicki Brown Hello Artie Yes, Vicki did record 'From The Inside' - I love that song and Vicki's version was particularly good. It was the only single released from the album. The album (also called 'From The Inside') was her first as a solo artist. It was released in the UK by Power Exchange - a label that I believe was owned by country singer J.J. Barrie. Vicki had recorded backing vocals on J.J. Barrie's hit 'No Charge' and this resulted in a lot of people asking who this wonderful singer was (although she had been around for years and had even had a hit in the UK along with her sister Mary Partington and singer Laura Lee under the name of the Sea Shells. They did a cover of Lesley Gore's 'Maybe I Know'). I think the deal with Power Exchange came about on the back of the J.J. Barrie record. However it happened, Vicki recorded a classic album - sadly no longer available and never released on CD. I'm not sure who might now own the masters - but if they're reading this, there's a classic album in the vaults just waiting to be put out on CD!!! I really do like your song and have a recollection that I have a recording of it by a different girl singer (probably from the late 70's). I can't quite remember who it might be. Time to get a tracks index for my record and CD collection I think. Thanks for the classic! Take care Ken -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 20 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:24:36 -0000 From: Billy G. Spradlin Subject: Re: Sugar Bear Out of curiosity I discovered one website where a "Gerry Matthews did the voice for Sugar Bear in the 60's for the "Linus the Lionhearted" cartoon show while another site listed Stearling Holloway. I have the original Linus The Lionhearted album (another Thrift Store find) and I'll have to play it sometime this week and see who's on it. I think its funny that Post got away with having a Chinese character called "So-Hi"! Un-P.C. but it was the 60's. Billy http://listen.to/jangleradio -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:36:11 -0700 From: Kim Cooper Subject: Scram #18 w/Emitt Rhodes, Marty Thau, Ramones... Please forgive the commercial message, but Scram #18 just came back from the printer and is looking for new homes. This ish features pop legend Emitt Rhodes talking about his early bands the Emerals and Palace Guard, the Merry-Go-Round, solo albums and theoretical physics, illustrated with vintage photos from his mom's collection, including our first ever color gallery... record man extraordinaire Marty Thau chatting with the Bubblegum Queen about his interesting career spanning Cameo/Parkway, Buddah bubblegum, the New York Dolls and Suicide... Ike Horn's great lost Ramones feature from 1980... preteen popettes Smoosh... all-American country hate-monger Johnny Sea, plus tons of book, zine and record reviews, pin-ups, and a letter from Susan Jacks of the Poppy Family. Copies are $5 postpaid, $8 overseas, payable to Kim Cooper, PO Box 461626, Hollywood, CA 90046-1626. Please see http://www.scrammagazine.com for info about subscriptions and our free Strawberry Shortcake (aka Turtles), Townes Van Zandt and Henry Jacobs CD offers. Stay tuned for Scram #19, starring Colin Blunstone! Lee Hazlewood! PF Sloan! Linda Perhacs! Oy! -Kim -- Scram PO Box 461626 Hollywood, CA 90046-1626 http://www.scrammagazine.com -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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